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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGlenn Greenwald will be speaking at Socialism2014 conference
June 26-29, Chicago.
Schedule .pdf at:
www.socialismconference.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/S14_FullProgram_WebVersion.pdf
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
JI7
(89,247 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)because it is a red herring. Red herring arguments are always irrelevant.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)But check the materials. Quite an extensive conference!
JI7
(89,247 posts)sheshe2
(83,747 posts)OMG!
Finally some information! Or not~
JI7
(89,247 posts)keep us informed.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)John Doe
Johnny Doe
John P. Doe
Jane Doe
Jane Doe See Doe
and
Hugh Jass
sheshe2
(83,747 posts)and Huge Jass!
High five Whisp.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)decriminalization for CATO based on the Portugal success, he was advocating a liberal point of view. When he spoke at CATO about the results of his white paper, he was advocating a liberal point of view. When he is invited to speak, year after year, at the Socialist convention he speaks from a liberal point of view.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)A large contingent will fall strangely silent.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)All those RWNJ.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....and see all the young people embracing socialism!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)I am pretty involved with the San Francisco socialist party and I recently joined Socialist Alternative. http://www.socialistalternative.org
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Known Libertarian Glenn Greenwald at a Socialism conference?
There's trouble afoot!
Here's a pic of him about to sink his Libertarian Zombie Vampire fangs into Kshama Sawant:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5134508
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Did you know the Koch brothers actually take orders from Greenwald?
The depth of his evil is unplumbable.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)government. Whatever. I am an AMERICAN. And I don't know what I am talking about. Except when I am talking.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)it seems a strange venue for him: it might mainly reflect just how incoherent and unorganized so-called "socialists" are in the US today
Nothing in Greenwald's history suggests he has ever had the slightest interest in, or sympathy for, anything that might be called "socialism." His stance essentially revolves around opposition to government. He has no discernible analysis, except opportunistic outrage over cases like that of the lunatic Barrett Brown. Objectively, he's really no friend of self-described "socialists"
grasswire
(50,130 posts)......in a program filled with lefties such as Amy Goodman and others farther to the left than she is. It would appear they see him as one of them.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)Perhaps you'd like to remind us about how many folk the movement has elected in recent years, or about its legislative victories, or about its other successes
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Out of the ashes rises #15. Globally.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)or about its legislative victories, or about its other successes
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I am seeing comes from Greenwalds detractors.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)or about its legislative victories, or about its other successes
frylock
(34,825 posts)look how many bandwagon fans the Red Sox have across the country.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)"opportunistic" "outrage" "lunatic"! So says a self-described "DEMOCRAT!!!!" Subjectively.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)the Congressional Republicans were a major impediment to this goal. So SEIU began laying plans to support Democrats in the 2012 election
Greenwald reacted with his predictable outrage, objecting that SEIU had endorsed Obama for 2012, despite the fact that the 2012 election is almost a full year away and nobody knows who is running against President Obama -- as if the Republican challenger would likely be an improvement -- and complaining further that SEIU was hoping to shape, fund, dictate and decree an anti-GOP, pro-Obama march -- as if SEIU's experience with Congressional Republicans couldn't justify opposition to Republicans and their policies. In the same article, Greenwald further objected formulating specific legislative demands and working to elect specific candidates on the grounds that we should be working outside of political and legal institutions -- which is a recipe for accomplishing nothing whatsoever. Greenwald's theory is that we can somehow instill a healthy fear in the hearts and minds of the most powerful political and financial factions and that change will some flow in a magical manner from that. It's a moronic strategy. One obtains definite results by working towards definite results; if one has no definite goals and merely sets out to frighten people whom one regards as opponents, then probably something will happen, but it is unlikely to represent progress towards the secret goals one has refused to state explicitly. The only possible outcome of following the strategy recommended by Greenwald is burn-out and cynicism -- and that only serves the status quo
Here's the link to the article, yet another of his bullshit productions. Don't tell me Greenwald supports unions, and don't pretend he supports the working class, because he supports neither. He's an opportunist, looking for attention, with no real concern about the issues and no insight either
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)invite an actual socialist to speak at their conference?
Greenwald's legions of supporters in the cyber-anarchic-libertarian world ain't gonna like this...
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)at the convention for the last 5-6 years. Now that they know, I suspect massive outrage on twitter. #Greenwaldnotacyberanarchiclibertariancryingmyyesout
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I'm interested in hearing what kind of speech he delivers to a socialist audience now that his profile is a million times bigger...
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, grasswire.