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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:37 AM Jun 2014

Surprise, surprise: Gary Oldman (kind of) apologizes

BY SORAYA NADIA MCDONALD June 25 at 5:47 AM

After being roundly condemned by the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center for what they consider anti-Semitic comments defending Mel Gibson in a Playboy interview, Gary Oldman has apologized with a statement to both groups.

But for some reason, he did not apologize to other groups and people he insulted, including gays, African Americans and Nancy Pelosi.

In the Playboy interview, Oldman went on something of a tirade against what he called “hypocrisy,” and “political correctness,” defending comments made by Alec Baldwin and Gibson that were called homophobic, sexist and racist. The examples he used were on the graphic side.

Oldman also expressed an exasperation with being unable to use slurs for women, gays, blacks and Jews, asserting that everyone privately uses them but are condemned when they say them publicly.

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Surprise, surprise: Gary Oldman (kind of) apologizes (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Some RWers don't understand freedom of speech. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #1
this is the amazingly huge disconnect that i have seen repeatedly. people want to be allowed to be seabeyond Jun 2014 #9
Gary Oldman said all that? Arkana Jun 2014 #2
I feel the same... DonViejo Jun 2014 #3
He's still a good actor - just a jerk as well. el_bryanto Jun 2014 #4
Just like Jeremy Irons. He's a real shithead too. catbyte Jun 2014 #8
really? disappointing if true. Armstead Jun 2014 #13
He was really homophobic & anti-gay marriage in an interview I read last year. It was catbyte Jun 2014 #19
Nancy Pelosi? He got on the brainwashed hate Nancy Pelosi bandwagon? He is stupid. And, Cha Jun 2014 #5
Is Oldman even American? Arkana Jun 2014 #12
He cracks me up... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #6
"Up next in Penthouse Gary Oldman decries not being able to shit in......" nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2014 #10
Let me guess. He apologized to all them "liberal jew fa@@#!$" who can't take a joke. Or something Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2014 #7
So, he wants everyone to admit they are racist, bigoted shitstains like himself? Rex Jun 2014 #11
Described as Extremely-Right-Wing 2012 otohara Jun 2014 #14
dustin hoffman's a conservative too? eom ellenfl Jun 2014 #16
Nope eom otohara Jun 2014 #17
"If anyone was offended", "some of my closest friends are..." Yep, typical RW apology. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #15
"Political correctness" still code for "bigoted white man inconvenienced." n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #18
maybe MFM008 Jun 2014 #20

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Some RWers don't understand freedom of speech.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:05 AM
Jun 2014

You can go around insulting people all you like, swearing and cussing, calling people out, insulting whole groups of people. Go for it.

But don't be surprised if the people you just insulted use *their" freedom of speech to give you *their* opinion.

Freedom of speech is a two way process.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. this is the amazingly huge disconnect that i have seen repeatedly. people want to be allowed to be
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:37 AM
Jun 2014

racist, homophobic and sexist and DEMAND that no one challenge, as they claim freedom of speech. totally bonkers.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
2. Gary Oldman said all that?
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jun 2014

Wow. I used to really like him--thought he was a fantastic actor.

Turns out he's just a giant shithead.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
3. I feel the same...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jun 2014

now, instead of thinking him a fantastic actor, he's just a fantastic ass-hat.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. He's still a good actor - just a jerk as well.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

He also has the need to work all the time (a lot of British actors have this) which has him doing projects maybe he shouldn't. But I don't know that being a nice or a good person is tied to acting talent - lots of talented actors have also been despicable human beings, and lots of very nice people are terrible actors.

Bryant

catbyte

(34,335 posts)
19. He was really homophobic & anti-gay marriage in an interview I read last year. It was
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jun 2014

disappointing.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
5. Nancy Pelosi? He got on the brainwashed hate Nancy Pelosi bandwagon? He is stupid. And,
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:18 AM
Jun 2014

no not everyone is like you, Oldman, and ".. privately uses them".

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
6. He cracks me up...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jun 2014

"Everybody uses these slurs in private, why can't we say them in public?"

For the same reason you can't shit in the center of food court at the local mall, you damned fool!

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,494 posts)
7. Let me guess. He apologized to all them "liberal jew fa@@#!$" who can't take a joke. Or something
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jun 2014

along those lines.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
14. Described as Extremely-Right-Wing 2012
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014


Heath describes a call Oldman received from Dustin Hoffman after The Contender came out where Hoffman told him:

“I was at a card game the other night, and there was this big Hollywood exec’ “—Hoffman named him to Oldman, though Oldman does not do so to me—” ‘and he was saying that Gary Oldman is extreme right wing, and he’s a fascist.’ ” Hoffman told Oldman that his response was “Gary Oldman’s a fascist and extreme right? I can’t imagine that that is true,” but nonetheless, the conversation had clearly prompted this phone call. [Hoffman, contacted in 2012, recalled telephoning Oldman and commending his performance in The Contender, but stated that he did not remember the rest of this conversation.] “And he said,” Oldman continues, ” ‘Just be careful, because I said some stuff years ago…I said it to someone who was very powerful who made sure that I didn’t work for a long, long time.’ He was being quite cryptic. And then he reminded me that there was a gap—I think it was a gap between Tootsie and the next thing he did. He said, ‘Just a word to the wise, you’ve got to be very careful; there’s this thing out there that you’re this… I don’t know what you’ve been saying, but you’ve got to be very careful.’ All very strange.”http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/03/01/434830/gary-oldman-dustin-hoffman-and-the-mystery-of-hollywood-bias-against-conservatives/
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