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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:43 PM Jun 2014

Things I should have done differently in the KFC thread I just self-deleted.

I should have considered the non-KFC people who donated to the family, and did not.

I should have thought about the ramifications for the KFC employees if they were actually innocent of wrongdoing(something we still don't know for sure).

There is still a point to be made about what this story shows about our system and the choices it makes some people make and others at least consider. But I could have been more precise in constructing the OP and accounting for all the factors in play.

At the very least, with greater forethought, I'd have worded it differently.

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Things I should have done differently in the KFC thread I just self-deleted. (Original Post) Ken Burch Jun 2014 OP
Well done, sir. KamaAina Jun 2014 #1
"something we still don't know for sure" , funny how you attack low wage employees JI7 Jun 2014 #2
have to agree. BootinUp Jun 2014 #4
+10000000 TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #5
I'm not attacking low-wage employees in that statement. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #7
we know enough and instead of admitting you were wrong you prefer to keep JI7 Jun 2014 #8
Oh Sweet Jesus... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #14
Your second try at this is not going to go any better than the first TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #15
I didn't "accuse" anyone of anything. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #16
You're right about one important thing... surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #3
People are always YarnAddict Jun 2014 #6
This. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #13
It was pointed out to you ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #9
Well said, Nance... SidDithers Jun 2014 #12
Takes class to honestly (and openly) express regret. 1000words Jun 2014 #10
It was a noisy thread, but I thought you and some others made petronius Jun 2014 #11

JI7

(89,241 posts)
2. "something we still don't know for sure" , funny how you attack low wage employees
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jun 2014

and claim to be about going after the big money corporations.

no, this story only shows how there are people who are frauds willing to lie to get money from others who have nothing and even to attack innocent low wage people.

you shouldn't have made another thread on this until you were ready to admit you were wrong.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. I'm not attacking low-wage employees in that statement.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jun 2014

Just pointing out that we don't have all the facts yet.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
8. we know enough and instead of admitting you were wrong you prefer to keep
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jun 2014

the question of guilt over low wage employees under the cover of fighting against the big guys.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
14. Oh Sweet Jesus...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jun 2014

Two investigations and a review of security video from two KFC locations found that the child was NEVER there. The child's Facebook page and website have been taken down. We do have all the facts, and those facts are that this was an utter fabrication, and that you are continuing to sound like a boob for bringing this up again.

You know the old saying, "When you're in a whole, stop digging?"

Yeah. That.

Might I recommend that you delete this thread as well, and we'll all try to pretend that nothing happened?

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
15. Your second try at this is not going to go any better than the first
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:59 AM
Jun 2014

Especially since you're STILL denying the facts pointed out to you in the extraordinarily numerous replies in your first failed thread.

Give it up.

And how about apologizing to all the members here that you accused of being willing to do the same fraudulent crap that family did.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. I didn't "accuse" anyone of anything.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jun 2014

I simply pointed out that such desperation could drive all of us to such choices.

It still goes without saying that there was no other way to pay for the kid's surgery.

This was never a get-rich scheme.

What I said in the OP was enough. Move on.

surrealAmerican

(11,358 posts)
3. You're right about one important thing...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jun 2014

People should not be put in desperate circumstances with no way out. It can make them do things that harm others, when they otherwise wouldn't.

I get that this was your main point. This is what we need to address. We need a real safety net in this country.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
6. People are always
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jun 2014

going to make stupid decisions that put themselves in desperate circumstances.

Not saying this is what happened here. Just saying that you can't save everyone from themselves.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
9. It was pointed out to you ...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jun 2014

... by myself and others, that this incident has been investigated, by KFC and an external investigator, and the grandmother's version of events has been disproven.

And yet you persist in statements like "the KFC employees if they were actually innocent of wrongdoing (something we still don't know for sure)."

"There is still a point to be made about what this story shows about our system and the choices it makes some people make ..."

No, this particular story shows no such thing. Stories abound about people being driven to truly desperate measures - this is NOT one of those stories.

This is a tale about greedy grifters who fomented intense anger against innocent people in order to make a buck.

And in your zeal to foment anger against a corporation, you chose to vilify innocent people in order to make a point - and are still doing so by ignoring the known facts, and implying that whether the KFC employees are innocent is "something we still don't know for sure."







 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
10. Takes class to honestly (and openly) express regret.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Jun 2014


(Let's see who will reciprocate, and gracefully allow the mea culpa to stand without lecture or quibble ...)

petronius

(26,598 posts)
11. It was a noisy thread, but I thought you and some others made
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:33 PM
Jun 2014

thought-provoking comments. While I do think it's much more likely than not that the incident never happened, and I disagree that it would be a justifiable hoax, it's true that we don't entirely know what this family is thinking and feeling.

Regardless of the truth or outcome, incidents like this serve as launching pads to explore questions of bias, fairness, justice, right and wrong - which your thread did...

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