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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:10 AM Jun 2014

Kentucky Getting Ready to Ditch Mitch As Democrat Grimes Leads McConnell 48%-46%

Oh please, oh please, oh please, AMEN!

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/26/accurate-pollster-2012-finds-alison-grimes-mitch-mcconnell.html

Kentucky Getting Ready to Ditch Mitch As Democrat Grimes Leads McConnell 48%-46%
By: Sarah Jones
Thursday, June, 26th, 2014, 10:44 am


What looked like it could be an anomaly is beginning to look like a real thing in Kentucky. The Democratic challenger to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Alison Lundergan Grimes, is leading in a new poll from Public Policy Polling (PPP) by 2 points, on the heels of McConnell’s primary win. That’s right — if this is McConnell’s post-primary bump, he’s in trouble.

The poll contains a flood of bad news for McConnell. Eighty-nine percent of respondents are more likely to vote for a candidate who will pass legislation to create jobs. By an 80%-14% margin, voters (including 70% of Republicans) want a candidate that will close tax loopholes on millionaires. Seventy-eight percent of voters want a candidate who will end gridlock and partisanship. Seventy-six percent want a candidate that will make sure that the rich and corporations pay their fair share of taxes, and by a margin of 63%-31% voters oppose cutting taxes for the wealthy and corporations.

Mitch McConnell opposes everything that Kentucky voters said they supported in the paragraph above.
What’s even worse for McConnell is that voters strongly oppose what he supports. McConnell has been a vocal supporter of tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. McConnell has personally blocked a wide range of job creation bills in the Senate, and he has publicly admitted that he is using gridlock as a strategy to destroy the Obama presidency.

“Grimes leads by a substantial margin among independents with 56% to McConnell’s 30%,” the PPP analyst noted. That’s a pretty big indictment of the incumbent Senator. But then, when 40% of his own party voted against him in the primary, the one narrative that was clearly intrenched was that Kentucky voters are sick of Mitch McConnell and his belief that creating jobs for Kentuckians isn’t his job. That gets old, especially when times are tough and in a state whose main industry has taken a hit.

The PPP analysis of what Kentuckians cared about showed marked support for what Democrats are championing in terms of making millionaires and corporations do their part, “(T)hey want to make sure that millionaires pay their fair share and do not get a lower tax rate than the middle class, and they want to close corporate tax loopholes, especially for shipping jobs overseas.”

And this is made all the more real and painful because PPP is a “liberal-leaning” pollster. And we all know that reality has a thing for liberals these days. Yes, that’s right. While other pollsters were unskewing themselves to show a horse race between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama in 2012, PPP was found the most accurate after they “projected a 2-point Obama victory and put him at the critical 50 percent mark, 50 to 48 percent over Romney.”

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Kentucky Getting Ready to Ditch Mitch As Democrat Grimes Leads McConnell 48%-46% (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
That would be something lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #1
That would be awesome! nt HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #2
What is important is that she has not been hurt by McConnell's attacks. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #3
I'll believe it when I see it get the red out Jun 2014 #4
If they vote this bastard in... Helen Borg Jun 2014 #11
but the rest of us don't! barbtries Jun 2014 #63
That would be the sweetest defeat since J.D. Hayworth. Coventina Jun 2014 #5
Please for a Dem win there. Aristus Jun 2014 #6
Ditto for the "oh please, "oh please", "oh please". Amen LoisB Jun 2014 #7
lol. yes Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #65
And it won't be soon enough. blackspade Jun 2014 #8
EVERY Dem can win on these issues BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #9
Agreed - IF the issues are properly framed groundloop Jun 2014 #16
Do they have electronic voting machines? Helen Borg Jun 2014 #10
We have the choice of electronic or paper where I live. n/t Tom_Foolery Jun 2014 #22
Kentucky has a democratic governor... Blanks Jun 2014 #12
That would be so good... Helen Borg Jun 2014 #23
May this be a trend in 2014... abakan Jun 2014 #13
K&R NCcoast Jun 2014 #14
Hey Mitch, how do you feel about Alison? NCcoast Jun 2014 #15
Yes oh yes to not have to see Mitch would be pure pleasure tea and oranges Jun 2014 #17
Only problem rickyhall Jun 2014 #18
You talking governor or senator? Blanks Jun 2014 #24
Tell me more, lark Jun 2014 #19
I can't yell loud enough! C Moon Jun 2014 #20
This would just be the icing on the GOP cake. First Cantor, and then McConnell? Just WOW! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #21
DROOL! NastyRiffraff Jun 2014 #25
Tastykake. Nt PCIntern Jun 2014 #44
Right! NastyRiffraff Jun 2014 #55
Ditch Mitch! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #26
GOTV! riqster Jun 2014 #27
I won't count these chickens until they hatch! nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #28
American Idiocracy astounds me Ruby the Liberal Jun 2014 #29
Bout time Kentucky woke up to who was screwing them. Cha Jun 2014 #30
My money is on Alison! kentuck Jun 2014 #31
K&R freshwest Jun 2014 #32
And is help still on the way Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #33
Warren is speaking in Louisville this weekend. DemocraticWing Jun 2014 #42
call out the cavalry WRH2 Jun 2014 #60
This Californian is keeping his fingers crossed... n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #34
Go Grimes! SunSeeker Jun 2014 #35
Fight Allison, fight. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #36
Looking Good, But.... supercats Jun 2014 #37
ditch mitch spanone Jun 2014 #38
honestly, dont care much for her iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #39
Keep in mind, Grimes is getting roasted daily with negative TV ads from right wing groups BluegrassDem Jun 2014 #40
Fingers crossed in SoCal! Hekate Jun 2014 #41
Help her win by donating at this link: NBachers Jun 2014 #43
Who "wins" depends on who the black box vote "tabulators" want, yes? blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #45
k&r lovemydog Jun 2014 #46
May the best woman win rustbeltvoice Jun 2014 #47
I think there's going to be a bunch more. marble falls Jun 2014 #48
Ditch Mitch! IronLionZion Jun 2014 #49
Seen on TV last night only 40% of Americans can name the political party who controls congress. B Calm Jun 2014 #50
To all the Nay-sayers that imthevicar Jun 2014 #51
this is assuming people actully go out and vote leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #52
Fitting Karma for a man who vowed to make Prez Obama a 1 term wonder. Larkspur Jun 2014 #53
I really hope so heaven05 Jun 2014 #54
Make it so, Kentucky Democrats. MineralMan Jun 2014 #56
K&R ReRe Jun 2014 #57
Let's not boink our wives in celebration just yet IkeRepublican Jun 2014 #58
Want to help make it happen? theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #64
You guys need to send the real Turtle man to capture and Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #70
Get excited at Lap 200 jmowreader Jun 2014 #59
No spoiler alert ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #61
Oh, I can't wait! Lunabell Jun 2014 #62
Good news davidpdx Jun 2014 #66
Oh please let us watch that POS go down in flames! MoonRiver Jun 2014 #67
Yeah, baby libodem Jun 2014 #68
That would be about the best move the people of Kentucky... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #69

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. What is important is that she has not been hurt by McConnell's attacks.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

Clearly, the turtle, as with criminal Rick Scott, has not been able to improve his image by assaulting his opponent.

It will be close. Grimes has a clear opening here.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
4. I'll believe it when I see it
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jun 2014

Kentuckians, in the end, generally vote the Republican back in, even if they have to hold their nose to do it.

I have absolutely no faith in most of my state having any sense at all. Really in any part of my state outside of Louisville and Lexington, to be honest.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
6. Please for a Dem win there.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jun 2014

I spent a total of five years of my life in Kentucky. I loved it there, and have a lot of good memories of the place. But that was before I became politically aware, and realized what a right-wing place it is. (Rurally speaking, mostly. I found out when I was appearing as Eddie in the floor show of The Rocky Horror Picture Show that Louisville has about the fifth-largest gay community in the country).

I hope the Bluegrass State turns blue for real here soon...

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
16. Agreed - IF the issues are properly framed
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

There are several ways to say the same thing, GOPers of course say it a bit differently than the rest of us. We say we want to get rid of tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, GOPers call that a tax increase. We say we don't want to allow insurers to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, GOPers call that government intrusion into healthcare. And on and on. They're very very good at choosing just the right words to make good policy sound bad.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
12. Kentucky has a democratic governor...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:39 PM
Jun 2014

They expanded Medicaid - we all know how much Mitch has opposed Obamacare. Picture yourself being poor, having worked hard and getting health insurance and Mitch is campaigning on taking it away from you.

I think he's toast.


http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/01/08/steve-beshear-dont-fear-the-politics-of-obamacare-dems/

tea and oranges

(396 posts)
17. Yes oh yes to not have to see Mitch would be pure pleasure
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jun 2014

I just wish Alison Lundergan Grimes loved coal a little less. Sigh.

lark

(23,059 posts)
19. Tell me more,
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jun 2014

you sweet talker! Please, that would be so wonderful, awesome if Grimes ends up beating the turtle.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
21. This would just be the icing on the GOP cake. First Cantor, and then McConnell? Just WOW!
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jun 2014

Please let it be.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. DROOL!
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jun 2014

Smack, smack smack and yum yummy yummy!

Oh please please please! This would be better than Tasty Cake any day (for those who remember the ad's jingle)

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
55. Right!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jun 2014

I remember the jingle, not the product itself. My mom wouldn't let me touch it,no matter how hard I begged.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
29. American Idiocracy astounds me
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jun 2014

Approvals of 70-80% on issues and yet people vote single issue and/or against their STATED interests.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
37. Looking Good, But....
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:39 AM
Jun 2014

It's not over yet. Don't forget the evil Koch bros. will be pouring in tons of money before election day. I'm betting this election will eventually be rigged.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
39. honestly, dont care much for her
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jun 2014

but because of personal reasons (I REALLY don't like her father/family very much.. and had some run ins with her in her younger days that werent very flattering)..
with that being said, cant wait to vote for her and..
im going to be super happy to watch the turtle cry come election night.. because hes definitely going to lose..

thank goodness for primaries tho, so I could get my protest vote in

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
40. Keep in mind, Grimes is getting roasted daily with negative TV ads from right wing groups
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:53 AM
Jun 2014

Most are shameful and despicable too. This poll seems to suggest she has weathered the negative TV onslaught and maybe it's even backfired a bit on Mitch?

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
51. To all the Nay-sayers that
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:28 AM
Jun 2014

complained Occupy was a fail, and that the change in the national conversation would accomplish nothing: Go Piss up a rope, I was right.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
53. Fitting Karma for a man who vowed to make Prez Obama a 1 term wonder.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:14 AM
Jun 2014

A lot of Dems in the WH will be laughing if Grimes leads holds or expands through Election Day.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
58. Let's not boink our wives in celebration just yet
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jun 2014

Encouraging, but fact of the matter is Kentucky will vote Republican even if McConnell himself gave every one of them paper bags of shit on fire on their front porches.

Grimes needs AT LEAST a 15% lead. Anything less assures a Yurtle win.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
64. Want to help make it happen?
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jun 2014

McConnell is getting boatloads of outside money for his campaign. You can help pack his bags by contributing to Alison's campaign.

http://alisonforkentucky.com/

Make it so!

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
59. Get excited at Lap 200
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 03:46 AM
Jun 2014

In 1998 Dale Earnhardt was leading the Daytona 500 with seventy or eighty laps to go, and he'd been out in front most of the day. His new crew chief looked at the team and noticed no one was excited.

"When do y'all get excited?"
"If he's still leading after Lap 200 (the end of the race), then we'll get excited," said team owner Richard Childress. "We've been here before."

We could put this a lot of ways - don't count your chickens before they hatch, don't put the cart before the horse...Simply stated, the election's in November, this is still June and most voters have three-minute attention spans.

Alison Lundergan Grimes could very well win this. At the same time, we're still looking at an electorate who thinks Obama is responsible for all Bush's mistakes.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
61. No spoiler alert
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014


It would be nice, but we must remember that Mitch is one of the dirtiest, meanest, lying, summabiches who ever got into the senate. He lies, cheats, and says anything to destroy an opponent, especially in a personal race. He may yet come up with a set of lies that would be effective.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
69. That would be about the best move the people of Kentucky...
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jun 2014

ever made. The forty nine other states would love it.(DC too) A turtle is too slow to govern and Mitch proves that every day!

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