some lunatic bent on mass murder, normal people won't want to be anywhere near swaggering idiots toting their guns.

The open carry jackasses are going to kill off every country venue out there eventually if they don't rethink things pretty soon.

LET THEM kill off every country venue out there! LET THEM alienate customer bases from coast to coast! LET THEM cost businesses their clients and customers with their damn fucking guns and massacre machines.

Perhaps THEY will be their own undoing, then. And the problem may be solved.

I feel the same way every time I hear somebody on camera discussing or opining about what the GOP should do to open things up. SHHHHH!!!!!! Leave 'em alone! Let them live in their delusions. Let them keep on thinking their pollsters know better. Don't help them climb out of the pit they're creating for themselves. I'd rather just smile and offer them another shovel!

Hell no. The ones with the guns are the only ones who "count."

They won't make the connection between darkened theaters in Branson with their deadly toys on parade, either.

All they know is that carrying a gun makes them feel both safe and powerful, probably for the first time in their lives.

I'm kinda glad they think they know everything. That way, their minds will be closed to reasonable things - while everyone else's are starting to open. Which means they may eventually be left behind. They all belong in the dustbin of history.

we definitely won't set foot in a state that permits open carry. Period.

until it started looking like the wild west with automatic weapons..Now I'm not sure where I'll go. I have a deep seeded aversion to being a gun statistic.

I have never seen anyone carrying a rifle in town. I know that there are people with CC licenses and carrying a handgun but I haven't seen it either.

I have been re-thinking the move ever since I saw videos of people going into markets, restaurants, and other places people gather with AR-15s strapped to their backs..Even in the short term it scares me because I can't tell the harmless idiots from the dangerous idiots.

Even if they fully intend to be.

I know a couple of people that have but from what I can tell most people think it's just plain stupid.

presented isnt a reality i am living. i have been all over texas and all the years, i too have never seen it.

i hear something is going on somewhere, but i have not seen any. texas is big. but i have been all over.

and i will repeat. i have seen no one carrying a gun. i am sure concealed. my hubby has a concealed. i am sure many. but no one with a big gun on shoulder or holster or anything

She always had on a Booty Bag and it was huge and heavy but I never really thought anything about it until one day we went shopping and I said something about her leaving it in the car and she said she was too scared that someone would break into the car and steal the gun, so she carried it; I asked why bring the gun in the first place and she said she was too scared to leave home without one. Our friendship drifted to zero after that because I was scared of her scardedness and having to bring a gun everywhere.

but. i know people carry. just not strapped over the shoulder and visible to make a point. i think it is sad that people are that fearful, is my immediate response. i do not know here experience and reason. though it sits us all up for an accidental shooting i am not thrilled with. that is nation wide though.

Which I dont need.

but a few weeks ago the open carry nuts showed up at the Home Depot less than a mile from my house in North Richland Hills

In fact, even this right wing blog (linked thru via "DoNotLink.com" to avoid search engine optimization) acknowledges that OCT makes the pro-gun movement look bad (there is plenty of inappropriate language in that post like "retards" and even a really dumb comparison of OCT to "gays and transsexuals who want to cram their flamboyant lifestyle choices down our throats", be warned).

For the coast. Rangeley for the lakes and mountains.

Very pretty, laid back, unspoiled Ans Acadia National Park

rocky coast with a working waterfront on one side of the Island, and artists on the other side, Deer Isle and Stonington. If you want the 400 year history of Maine, Castine. If you want lakes and mountains, Rangeley. If you like Stephen King, Bangor.

I grew up in Deer Isle, so of course I have a preference for that. You can reach Castine, Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park, Searsport, Camden, and Bangor easily enough from there, too. If you like lighthouses, some people follow a trail of them up the coast, staying overnight in different towns along the way.

If you don't mind being buried in snow for more than half the year.

I am a cold blooded creature that requires heat.

I haven't seen anyone "practice" open carry since I confronted a dude over the asparagus, his .357, and 2 year old in his basket. It just doesn't happen that often! Come up for Golden Days - I promise, the firearms are all fake, and it's a lot of fun!

for anyone ever ever ever

But i still want people to come. Ever since Lisa Murkowski defeated Joe miller and the Tea party, things have calmed way down. The only open carriers i ever see are the ones in hunting gear on their way out of town for moose hunting.
Lisa M, had a commercial with a crowd of open carry Tea party supporters during that time i believe, it was pretty scary and i think it helped her win. I voted for the democrat but some democrats voted for her to keep him out. I should try to find that commercial.

Not outer space but almost

I know, I shouldnt have said what I said but you get so damn angry at the idiots.

When people call it the last frontier i always think to myself,

Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.

Did you find any new civilizations?

Can you also see Russia from your back porch?

Are you guys gonna give Sarah to Vladimir in unholy marriage?

P.S. I had two plumbers from Ukraine finishing the kitchen remodel here. They talk English perfectly but have that lively accent. I love people hearing all kinds of accents.

1. Only in my imagination.
2. I am currently observing russia through my kitchen window. Making sure that pesky spy guy stays put over there.
3. Yes. He can have her.

We have many russians here but they rarely speak to me. I'm boring.

oooooeeeee oooowooooowoooowoooo

How I miss that show. There used to be more reruns on the teevee. Not that I turn it on anymore.

I don't think many people would mind that situation. Heading to the field or woods for a hunt seems like an appropriate and not terribly threatening way to exercise your 2nd rights.

And they don't mind leaving the guns in the car while they shop for snacks and coffee. They share the meat too.

appropriate than openly carrying a dildo around the grocery store. You might be able to, but really, should you? Probably not.

If little ole me can intimidate a dude packin' a .357, just with words? No problem!

It's different out here. Guns are a necessity.

areas and cannot let their children out in their own yards to play. I'm fine with hunters and guns but I advise people who care about the safety of their children to not vacation or live around them. Gun lovers don't mind exposing their children to the dangers of firearms and that is their right. Everyone else should give them a wide birth and move as far away as possible from them.

We have Open Carry for long guns.

Open carry of firearms is legal, but for those who do not have a concealed handgun license, cities and counties may regulate the open carry of loaded firearms in public places. Localities that prohibit non-licensed open carry of loaded firearms in public places include: Astoria, Beaverton, Independence, Newport, Oregon City, Portland, Salem, Tigard, and Multnomah County.

The whole Lake of the Ozarks area has a HUGE meth problem from the permanent residents. Tourists (and locals) are far more likely to be robbed or have their house broken into than any other problem at the Lake.

The Police Chief initiated the ban based on what is happening in Texas not in his city.

He based his decision on their concerns.

They are not having an issue so basically they are wasting tax payer dollars in finding a solution to a problem that does not exist.

All things being equal, it seems more accurate to say "a solution to a relevant and potential problem..." as was illustrated rather methodically in Texas.

But I imagine many half-wits believe that solutions which preempt the potential problem are indeed, "wasting tax payer dollars" or some other bit of bumper sticker wisdom allowing them to illustrate the rational as absurd.

It's illegal to Open Carry a long gun in Missouri so citing Texas as your reasoning to ban Open Carry is ridiculous. In Texas you can open carry a long gun but you can't a handgun while in Missouri you can open carry a handgun but not a long gun. They don't have the problem Texas has and they will never have the problem Texas has. Furthermore the reason Texas has the problem is that the state thinks it's perfectly OK for a guy to walk around with an AR-15 on his back but not a handgun on his side.

At no point in this article is anyone quoted as saying their concerns are based on Texas. All of the reasons given by the Police Chief, council members, etc are based on concerns by local businesses or their own personal desires to promote their community as a family-friendly place. Not a single person interviewed mentioned Texas.

Texas was brought up by the AUTHOR of the article and only cited as another place where businesses had expressed concerns about open carry. Bringing up Texas was simply filler-something the writer of the article added for whatever reason writers add that kind of filler.

and tourist towns KNOW THIS

what look to my eyes (and I could be wrong) to show 2 AA individuals with long guns. While I'm sure there are plenty of AA who do own rifles, by and large those protesting for open carry have generally seemed to be overwhelmingly white.

They are not exposed to the sun as much as arms are.

In a climate where bills like this are sponsored in the first place, the Dems tread cautiously when it comes to guns.

It's private, for-profit corporations that are doing it, to protect their business interests.

And there's little you can do about it. $$$ talks!

Oh sure, shoot up everything in site like the pissy monsters you are, to show how angry the gun-ban makes you, but you were going to do that anyway, right?

Ironic.

n/t

that if I were in some public place - a restaurant, a coffee shop, a park, whatever - and some bozo (or group of bozos) suddenly showed up armed to the teeth with assault rifles, I'd be out of there so fast that my own shadow wouldn't be able to keep up with me. What the open carry idiots don't seem to understand is that there's no way to distinguish the "good guy with a gun" who is merely asserting his Second Amendment rights by showing us all what a tough 'merkin patriot he is (and displaying his manhood like a baboon in a zoo) from some disturbed character whose girlfriend just dumped him, or who couldn't get a girlfriend in the first place, or whose classmates picked on him, or who is hearing voices in his head, and intends to shoot up the place because he hates the world. So for my own safety I would have to assume that the gun-toting knucklehead is a dangerous loon and not just an upstanding citizen, and I would leave as quickly as possible. Any business owners who think it's OK for people to show up in their establishments looking like Special Forces wannabes with neck beards and paunches and lots and lots of guns will soon find themselves without normal customers.

This is exactly how I feel too..Although I have thought if the patrons, of the establishments, dropped to the ground and started moaning and crying whenever they show up. How long would they feel comfortable showing off their appendages in public?

Better than I ever could.

with their guns as dicks!

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...when you get to a safe place call 911 and tell them that someone with a weapon is menacing people where you just fled from -- because here in sane people land, they are.

when one of these open carry baboons will be shot because they were mistaken for a robber. They are too ignorant to realize that no one can tell a good gun carrier from a bad gun carrier, and, someday, a good gun carrier will decide that the open carry guy is a bad guy, and shoot him.

I am with VO, if I saw a guy come into a place I was eating with a weapon (who wasn't a cop, of course) I would either be under the table or headed for the door. I am not going to waste precious seconds trying to determine this person's intent - I would prefer to err on the side of safety and GTF out of there. I would rather make a fool of myself than a corpse of myself.

Like letting a kid stick his hand on a hot stove......

draft open carry folks into combat. See how long they last.

goes on without some asshole standing around with a gun thinking they're playing with their dick. Plenty of places to go/vacation - who needs to be around assholes with guns.

I searched to see what happened and ran across this discussion: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-120748.html&s=ff605d7fad9f773f75dc7df77ba42790&

In the discussion, they are talking about how they've carried guns into Disneyworld (Florida) and discussing ways to sneak guns into Disney. Imagine being jostled around on a ride next to someone with a gun in their fanny pack. That would suck the fun right out of that ride quickly.

a dangerous combination when mixed with a lethal weapon. A group of immature, insecure, and arrogant idiots with guns causing a public nuisance is a recipe for disastor.

Guns, meth, and white supremacy. Not much has changed since this article was published.

Hate finds a home in the Ozarks
The Joplin Globe/January 2001
By Andy Ostmeyer

The Ozarks has been tagged as one of three centers of radical right extremism in the United States.

Part of the reason for that is an accident of geography: The rural, thinly populated rhythm of hill and hollow provides natural cover.


http://www.culteducation.com/group/995-church-of-israel/10551-hate-finds-a-home-in-the-ozarks.html

thanks for the news, abakan!

although there are SOME fish........ anyway, I qualified for CCW years ago. I don't. I'd much rather see someone open carry than concealed! At any rate, trash away at gun owners. Most of us are smart enough to use them for one purpose - to eat decent meat and not have to shop at Safeway!

Read an article re open-carry in TX. The leaders' objective seems to be OC for Handguns, but is using Long guns because they are legal to carry & a suitable bargaining tool. I don't go with OC (prefer concealed), but folks have to ask: Would I prefer OC of pistols, or ARs & AKs? Not much to see or hear on this issue but the usual slumber lumber refs.

Because I see tools with holstered weapons at City Market regularly, defending their minute steaks from poachers and whatnot.

they NEVER buy frozen steaks!!!

and say they are apposed to gun violence and apposed to carrying around rifles that scare the shit out of people. You wonder why you are all lumped together? It's because your so afraid of gun control you're silent when you should speak up,

and you are correct - there don't seem to be many of them

I have stated many times that open carry is moronic. But the conversation will simply shift to a different point until there is disagreement and I can be labeled a "gun humper" once again.

While we are at it, why don't gun control advocates who keep telling us that Obama is not coming to get our guns step forward to correct those that advocate gun bans on DU? You wonder why you are all lumped together?

bans. It is a solution in other countries.

At least you are open about it.

seem to me only to care about their gun rights. That had lead away from the goal of reducing gun violence. As long as gun owners stay on their current path of not contributing and not willing to compromize in getting some kind of control on our gun violence problem, more and more people will accept gun bans. The ball is in your court!

Why do you refuse to give us any credit? More guns, less violence yet we are doing nothing? You will always find a way to move the goal posts. Which is why I know it is foolish to try to deal with people like you. You are not to be trusted.

I understand you will never remove your blinders. But the give and take is fun you must admit. I just hope you are not mistaking DU echo chamber for reality.

And I don't feel comfortable around guns?
What if I don't feel comfortable around guns in school?
And all the other common sense reasons to not allow guns "everywhere"?

Are nothing more than teabag terrorists that get their rocks off on the sight of frightened women and children.

These monsters are the creation of right wing terrorist front the NRA, fox news, hate radio and the republican party, all anti american randian traitors and scum of the earth.

Not going to do it. Bunch of paranoid freaks.

I'm talking about going into Walmart and seeing a bunch of rednecks wearing their AK47s around their necks. Or with pistols in their pants. They just look stupid. Kind of like the big belly guys that run around in black boots and survival outfits. If they actually had to survive out there in the woods they would collapse after about 30 feet.

Like I said before. I don't give a damn if people like to own guns. They can take them home and masturbate with them for all I care. But they don't belong in public places.

Those people in Texas remind of looking at the people in Afghanistan where everyone hauls out their AK47s.

It's like we are just becoming completely uncivilized in this country and I hate it.

Will one of them go all crazy and Lock and Load on you?

Why stick around to find out?

And nuts shouldn't have guns.

BUSINESS IS SUFFERING!!!!!!!!


Hey whatever it takes I guess.

I don't have any stats, links or the ability to read into history accurately enough. I just feel that civilizations at their CORE aspire to be secure worlds where everyone experiences what the life in the best possible EARTHLY way. Knowing a god, a dog, a cat, a partner, a lover will make it so you don't need a gun.... Among lots of other things that cause us problems....

haven't seen many guns in the open, but it wouldn't surprise me. I'd be surprised if they were all locals, though. Median pay here is less than minimum wage, lots of bars and restaurants. Some guy in the town of Lake Ozark claims to have the largest pistol collection in the state. He's also a psychopath that sells guns to the cops.

Guys like him, the reason all these problems are happening, need to be run out of town.
But he's rich, and the cops love him. Even the chief that wants guns banned.
You know: "not in my town".

In a related story, the Tea Party led congress here has passed a sweeping set of tax bills, saving the rich people of the state countless millions. Lake Ozark and Osage Beach(neighboring cities & Repub led) have petitioned the Democratic Governor to veto those bills claiming the loss of much $$$, if allowed to become law.

It's getting squeaky here.

I would find any route around the area.

do they realize how stupid they look. even if i were to oppose any gun control to do this is very douchebag like .

we should replace their guns with a security blanket. They need to grow up and quit being so paranoid and insecure. Beside that, I think that type of gun toting is bordering on bullying. is the point of parading guns around like that?

But the feeling of "freedom" is far too weak to justify the cost when you leave them at home properly secured in a gun safe. To really get their "freedom" on, many apparently need to parade them about in public. This will not prove sufficient over time. However, unfortunately for them, society will not collapse as predicted by the gun dealers, so they will never be used to "defend our freedom" and eventually will simply serve as museum pieces from a time when "people went a bit nuts".

I thought guns were fun for the whole family?

You can open carry or conceal carry in Ohio. Insurance companies limit insurance if there are guns on premises. Small businesses post signs that there are no guns allowed, because they need insurance coverage. The dumb asses with guns try to start boycotts against the small businesses who post the signs. What a completely stupid vicious circle.

Couldn't-a-done it without 'ya!

Conservatives - turning the country into a run-down trailer park (with guns!) one step at a time.

NRA apologist idiots to hump them.