LOL

Twitter, Facebook, Huffpo, CNN...every website reported the score.

If you were online in DU, you could've easily been streaming the game and you would've known too.

Streaming a live game is not really feasible that way.

DU is one of those places, along with everywhere else online.

I DVR sports quite often, and when I do, I don't go online, I avoid twitter, I don't listen to or watch the radio, and I stay away from places that would ruin it for me.

When most of the world is watching the World Cup and YOU want to watch it later and not have it spoiled for YOU, YOU need to take the extra effort to avoid having it spoiled. If YOU know some asshole on DU is going to spoil it for YOU, avoid DU. How hard is that to grasp?

On the other hand, if a person wants to discuss an event that someone else may be DVRing, the rule is "Don't be an asshole and post a spoiler in the thread title".

How hard is THAT to grasp?

If rude people would stop being rude, there would be no problem and no need to avoid the internet. Rudeness isn't excused just because it's possible to avoid the rude behavior.

Some people can't avoid going online, or they forget. I've done that, and then when I saw the spoiler I remembered I didn't want to go there.

Like Skinner said, it's common courtesy and common sense. DU'ers aren't always courteous, so exercise common sense and avoid places where some asshole might spoil it.

There's no reason to tolerate rude behavior. Posting a spoiler warning takes two seconds.

Stop expecting the entire world to stop for you. Spoiled Alert.

Rude behavior should be free and unencumbered from criticism. That makes the same amount of sense.

or they will "spoil it" for you. Damn rude people!

Oh and that includes the internet.

But don't worry, from now on instead of breaking news for actual breaking news, DU will get the Spoiler Alert...

Or they'll warn they're about to give the results. Particularly for events like the Olympics that are delayed, so people can't watch them live. But the fact that an event was covered on the news doesn't excuse being rude.

FIFA, since we are in the same continent, does not have such a constraint on ESPN, or any other news service anywhere in the world in fact.

They will repeat the game by the way.

Don't worry, as far as how the US does, I am done posting here, never mind many of us have been watching and POSTING goals as they happen throughout the cup. This was a BULLSHIT HIDE. And from now on, so more serious people can avoid the fainting couch, they will get spoilers for school shootings, SCOTUS decisions, wildfires, I mean it is not like I want to ruin your watching of it later.

And as far as the US is concerned SPOILER ALERT, SPOILER ALERT, SPOILER ALERT, make sure you do not read beyond this point... do so at your own risk... they are playing Belgium on Tuesday and if they play like today, they are going home. SPOILER ALERT, SPOILER ALERT, SPOILER ALERT.

And do avoid news alerts, news apps, twitter, faceboook, redditt, or any where else where SPOILER ALERT, this might be discussed.

And this was directed at me by a small group of stalkers, ok. I assume everything I post is alerted on... so like little kids...

For the record, I have in the background a non game right now. It really does not matter who is playing. It really does not.

This has been a point of contention on DU on more than one occasion.

I had no idea the IOC was so powerful that they could force the news to alert spoiling. What happened to the news orginizations who spoiled the outcome? That includes NBC affiliates. It makes no sense for them to spoil their own content. But they certainly didn't seem to worry about the IOC.

but the truth is, look the OP and some of the exchanges. Some of the shitty alerts directed at me, are just that, shitty. They got lucky with this one. But they alert, constantly. The system is broken. I also get constantly attacked by the same crowd, it is a small crowd, and they get away with murder... constantly.

Now if you do not mind, spoiler alert, I got an article to finish on inequality. Which will be posted here with the proper warnings, such as trigger alert, is critical of economic policy and spoiler alert, deals with economic policy. Every where else... it will run with proper title.

And don't worry about me spoiling your sports... there is a game now, but who the fuck cares? I might spoil it.

we disagree on this.

I think the spoiler alert is a stupid idea when every news app on my IPAD is going off, and news services are breaking news.

During the Olympics, they did not do that. MSNBC said, SPOILER ALERT before giving away results. IT was part of their contract by the way with the IOC. With the World Cup there is no such rule.

So yes we disagree, but I will no longer post anything that has to do with the sport HERE or this world cup. I will continue to post it where adults actually engage in adult discussions. This is petty and what 12 year olds do.

So yes, we disagree.

This is to the same level as the RP hide the other day (Funny, now I recommend each one of them, even before reading them on principle)

This place is petty and it is showing it.

And from now on, I will treat this place like the Kinder garden it is becoming. It is not junior HS anymore. And yes, I am pissed.

But unless you know who alerted I'm not sure you can know that in this instance because plenty of people get pretty steamed at spoilers and always have.

or the President of the United States.

Damn him, he opened his address in Minneapolis with the result! DAMN HIM *&^&(^

And this is now comedy goal.

If you know that people will be upset because an event will be spoiled for them if you post the info, then you shouldn't post it without a warning. It's inconsiderate. It doesn't matter if they could possibly be spoiled elsewhere or by someone else.

and discussing games as they happen, silly me thinking that SOME PEOPLE would get so upset. As I said, I will now restraint my discussions of the beautiful game to Facebook, were adults are. I will also restraint them to my paper where we will continue to follow the plight of two teams that are of special interests to my readers. DU, not so much. As far as I am concerned the game next Tuesday is not happening anywhere where I can share it with people here.

And yes, some of us have enjoyed the GGGGGGGGOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLL as actual games are happening right here on GD, Now I will keep to FB. I advise you to stay away from my FB profile while a game is in progress. Or for that matter away from Reporting San Diego, since I might live blog next week. So let that serve as your spoiler alert.

Hell, I might just stick to Twitter for all I care. DU, not so much. This is infantile.

One of my fondest memories was the final four years ago, with my DU homies, we were all stuck to the GD... but not to hurt sensibilities I will now stick to where adults wander and do not care about sharing the experience. And please, do stay away from Twitter and news media let it spoil it for you.

With a dedicated spoiler warned thread for discussion of the event.

but don't worry, your sensitivities will not be hurt, it is the twitter for me. It is FB, it is reddit, where adults actually are adults.

That's news to me. I see DUers do it all the time.

don't worry, will start giving them for everything, not just sports anymore.

I think sometimes people don't realize or get caught up in the moment. They'll usually apologize and delete or edit when someone points out they're spoiling something.

if one breaks, while everywhere else it is referred as Breaking news, here I will only use SPOILER ALERT.

If there is a shooting... while everywhere else it is referred as BREAKING NEWS, here it will be a SPOILER ALERT

That is what the kids want, that is what they get.

As to sports, as I said, my football will be shared where adults gather.

Those aren't spoilers.

It still is.

This was an event that had just ended. So it's not an unreasonable request, and deliberately ignoring it knowing it will ruin something for a lot of people is rude and inconsiderate, especially when it costs so little in time and effort.

all around the world!!!!

There were no broadcast delays either. The olympics, it made sense... there WERE broadcast delays.

If you do not want to know what the results are, get off the net now

Another game right now... don't worry, it is not happening.

If the person otherwise didn't know until they read your post, you spoiled it for them.

et al

Or a tv for that matter.

So someone manages to avoid all that info only to get spoiled at DU. If DU charged by the character it would be one thing. But they don't. Disregarding the fact that some people are trying to avoid that information when it's just about the most effortless way to be nice isn't rational or justifiable.

PERIOD

How nice that many people won't be on DU until they watch it, because some people don't want to be bothered.

don't worry, people who get this hung up over SPORTS, have issues. And that is a fact jack.

Now feel free to believe whatever you want.

All news isn't the same.

all four had push notifications the moment the whistle blew.

Pointing out that the news reports it doesn't absolve the behavior. IF someone face to face tells you "Stop! I haven't seen x yet!" DO you just keep charging on with the info because hey! It was on the news so it's okay! I really hope not.

I will not share anything of what has happened here... if people are this fixated over a sport, so be it. But from now on will give spoiler alerts for what is breaking news. That is what you are telling me. That breaking news is a spoiler alert, so will treat breaking news as a spoiler alert from now on. It is what it is.

I don't think it's that hard to discern between what's a spoiler and what isn't, so I don't think it's necessary. But, your decision.

You don't have to be around DU very long to know there is an anti-nadin clique.

No PPR.

Sid

Someone beat me to it.
Not on jury either.
But good hide!

Still here

Sorry to see that.

Working on an article on inequality.

I know I will post it in social media. Since I am taking direct aim at the NEBR am afraid it will be alerted here. I am seriously debating posting here, or just having a spoiler alert on the "attack" on the administration.

Posting spoilers is just internet asshattery, everyone knows better but some just can't seem to resist.

Or the Olympics for that matter.
OP did not need to post a spoiler in the header of GD.
There were many ways they could have posted the information without revealing it in the header.
For example...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025154427

I guess if I were more into the World Cup and if the game itself wasn't playing in the lobby at my office, I might be pissed. Right now, though for me personally, meh.

Now people who have read all of George R.R. Martin's Fire and Ice book series and post spoilers as to what is going to happen on the Game of Thrones TV series.....those people will die a horrible death for me.

I now know that Hodor will be declared the one true rightful heir to the Iron Throne. Thanks a lot, assholes.

At the end, he wakes up in bed and says ...

Someone alerted on the first example, and a jury hid it. Try an alert on the other one and see what happens. There are no guarantees, though, that another jury will vote the same way.

Note: I neither alerted nor was on the jury for the first link. If called, I would have recused myself anyhow.

Here's my approach:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=834402

It went to a jury, which voted to hide it. That's how the system works. Now, I wouldn't have voted to hide it, because I don't care even a little bit about spoilers for sports events. I actually would have recused myself, though, since the poster has me on ignore, and I do not vote in juries for people who have me on ignore.

But, I asked if you had alerted because that's what happened in the GD thread.

who has me on ignore, if anyone?

Nadin tells people all the time they're on her ignore list.

I found it hilarious. And gratifying.

tell you they've done it. That's the case here.

spoiled it for me!!1!

My opinion is that, even for a live sporting event, a spoiler warning is a valued courtesy - and it costs nothing whatsoever to add one. We all know people who DVR events or have done so ourselves, and while the onus of news-avoidance is certainly on the DVRer, it's easy enough to try and help them out.

That said, I think it's over the top to hide a thread for the absence of a spoiler warning, absent any direct guidance from the owners or a clear community consensus around a particular event...


(Note: my intro was a joke, I haven't really been on any juries.)

Spoiler for everything here

I enjoy reading your posts Nadin, and feel they are informative and a positive contribution to the community.

I think the hide was valid though as "spoilers" as they relate to sporting events are something that the DU community has for a long time voiced the opinion that they are not appreciated as thread titles. It falls into the same category (to me at least) as including a "NSFW" or "trigger warning" caution in a thread title for content that may be problematic for certain environments or individuals. It's just common courtesy.

and as usual part of the harassment pattern by a really small but loud group of people.

I do not alert anymore, I have a group of very loyal stalkers who enjoy to engage in personal attacks that are beyond the pale. But something that is pretty much all over Yahoo news, AP, Reuters, BBC, RT. MSNBC, CNN, I could go on, the list includes every news service in the world, is really stupid shit.

So from now on. I will have to give spoiler alerts for school shootings, SCOTUS decisions, Tornadoes, and other things.

So you know, by the time I finished writing that, and posted it, at least five of my news apps and twitter went overdrive.

Moreover, the rule applied during the olympics, not now. But hell, whatever, and Tuesday, when spiler alert the US plays Belgium, I will stay away from posting anything here. I might live blog it though.

Some of this is rather personal.

So from now on... spoiler alerts everywhere, and definitely by tonight if I finish that copy by tonight. It is guaranteed to get at least one alert. Yes, I now assume EVERYTHING I post is alerted on DU by that merry band. They will not stop until I either get banned or I die. Yup, that simple, because I am not going anywhere.

If you are unable or unwilling to see that it is a waste of fucking time talking to you or anyone else taking up that ridiculous position.

putting spoiler results in the Subject line isn't kosher.

Sid

This is just stupid.

results as soon as they were available. People who insist on not knowing the results of delayed-broadcast sporting events really have to take extraordinary measures, I think. If they don't, there will always be a spoiler.

NPR reports the results in real time, as does every other news outlet.

If you don't want to be spoiled, stay off the damn internet and don't listen to the radio or TV.

It is up to the person who wants to avoid spoilers to take care of it themselves. It is no one else's responsibility, especially for a non-tape-delayed sporting event.

I get it that some people are at work or may be taping the show for later, but why is it only for sports?
Why not make SCOTUS decisions spoilers too? Or tornadoes? Pick any post on DU and put "Spoiler Alert" in the title so people who don't want to learn about it until later would be safe. The game is news, period. So are Supreme Court decisions.
Why are only sports post in need of spoiler alerts? Silly. Now let's talk about NSFW issues!

Breaking news

That is a marvelous suggestion and comentary on this.

The point of sports is that it's fun to watch, and the fun can be spoiled by knowing the outcome. The game is news, sure, but it's also fun, and some of the fun comes from not knowing the outcome.

IMMINENT DANGER!"

If you don't want to know about a World Cup score, best to stay off the nets and the TV. Don't talk to your co-workers either.
In fact, the NSFW thing would apply here too, no? LOL
Much ado about nothing

are watching games later go to GD first to avoid LBN headlines. It's hard to protect yourself from spoilers, but it can be done, and it's a nice gesture when other people respect it.

of suggesting the US team aren't the best players on the planet.

For shame.

The hidden one had the result in the title, so anyone scrolling through GD would see it.

Damn them for not using a spoiler headline!

Considering how big a deal this is to the US soccer fans, the story is already everyplace on the net I've been since the news broke. Literally everyplace.

Seems a silly thing to take umbrage to, let alone something hide worthy.

because they want to watch it later...

You're 100% correct. If it's important enough for you to want to avoid hearing about it, stay the fuck off the net.

so I knew right away that the USA had most likely advanced.

Fireworks at 11 in the morning on the day that we are competing in a World Cup game should undoubtedly come with a "spoiler" warning.

That hidden thread surely must have come with a on the alerter's part.

It is a bullshit hide.

and actually understand the game of futbol, here in my county.

I wouldn't dream of joining the ranks of the elite uninformed to look down my nose at those who love soccer, nor would I ever try to squelch their enthusiasm over these World Cup events.

I remember back when my daughter first began playing soccer and I was so uncomfortably ignorant of how the game was played. It took me awhile, but I did eventually learn to love futbol, just like most of the rest of the world.

I only wish that it would rain, since fire-works always scare me, this time of year. Not looking forward to this next week, at all.

that could lead to a nice wild fire.

I get excited over it, but not for the success of the American team, or El Tri... just good ol' fashioned world class soccer.

We decided, since some folks do care about those two specific teams where I live, to actually cover them in a tad more detail.

But will not make the mistake of posting anything that has to do with the beautiful game here... it might spoil it for some. In fact, have a game in the background right now. SPOILER ALERT, both teams are out. So it is essentially an exhibition game. I just enjoy good soccer.

Though the officiating this world cup... ay caramba!!! Now need to print the article...

We've got a pasture that has burned in the past due to wayward rockets, and this year it's only half-mown (tractor is broken down) so I've been a nervous-nellie ever since the fireworks went on sale. If our woods lit, it would be disastrous, so I'm doing rain dances all week, ha.

Like pinboy, I learned the joys and beauty of soccer when my daughter was a little kid and she taught me how the game is played. Been a fan ever since, and always love to watch a really good match. One year, my girl sent my man a bunch of Sounders gear for his Xmas gift, since they've had an ongoing dispute over what is real football for years. He was insulted but did finally begin wearing some of it...the scarf was especially fine, so he caved. Nowadays, both of us enjoy the sport.

my brother was a Club America man, and if the term existed then, superfan. he would qualify. So Sundays could get a little hot, if the America lost, and there were bad calls. The game between Mexico and Cameroon would have been epic in that regard.

I enjoy a good game, but really do not get that much into who's on top and bottom. Though the Tri and Team USA have been pleasant surprises, but today's game... was beyond flat.

Damn, nadin! I'm so sorry.

So I signed up to be the assistant coach and began studying the sport.

That was a fun time--and expecially fun to see the kids progress from their helter-skelter field antics to more disciplined play as they grew and learned. And what a learning experience for me!

I'm not looking forward to the fireworks either. My war reactions have mostly subsided, but there's still a vestige of that that makes it uncomfortable.

The second soccer team my girl was on had a coach who should have studied, ha! Us moms kept a book right on the sidelines during games and often had to consult it after certain calls, but managed to get a good grasp of the rules from one exceptionally experienced ref who hailed from Mexico. But yes, it was a real fun time for me, too, and an invaluable experience for our kids to learn the meaning of "team play".

I'll never understand the thrill of bombs bursting in air, pinboy. Never have liked them, never will.

Really.

It doesn't matter, really, if you discover something like that. You'll watch the game anyhow. It's the play that's interesting, not the final score. And if the play isn't interesting, you wouldn't watch in the first place.

Her usual "fans" will always find a reason to harass.

(sigh) I am one of her true and actual fans.

I was alerted on for a spoiler too, but mine wasn't in the subject line. The title was "I Believe," which is the chant of Team USA. Anyone watching the cup knows that. Fortunately the alert on me came back 0-7. After all this carrying on about censorship, THAT is what gets hidden.

I had a game spoiled by a subject line here early in the cup. I was disappointed, but it didn't occur to me to alert. After that I either watched live or didn't go on the internet until I had seen the game.

for a film or something else that's fictional, sure, but something that is news is not a spoiler.

And "To Serve Man"? It's a cookbook.
Because Soylent Green is made of people.

Or maybe he doesn't - we don't really know.

(But he does...)

Much better to simply PM the OP and ask for an edit...besides, whenever I see a thread has been hidden by jury decision...I'm like moth to a flame...I click on it to view the original post!

Sheesh. It's a bunch of grown men kicking a ball around, for cryin' out loud. Massively overpaid ball kickers, at that.

I expect an alert on a substantial post this afternoon, in the middle of editing. I almost expect a hide.

No matter, it will go where adults also discuss things. I put it in the category of Bull Shit hides like hiding a RP column over the language. (I now KR every one of his columns on principle)

As to entertainment... do not look into how much FIFA is making, and the actual more serious scandals off the pitch. Real SPOILER but the US might actually get it as default in 2024 if all those off the field dramas work out.

On a more serious note, some social scientist think that international competition is a far better option than actual lead flying.

eom

As measured by number of replies, anyway.

No Spoiler Alert about a game = hide.

to try to silence people

I guarantee, the column on inequality will sink like a rock. I expect it to be alerted on, as well.

The rest is mere posturing.

who are not children... or Redditt.

Sad, isn't it?

that he needed a SPOILER alert right?