Can't they foot her expenses and pay for a nice meal? Why isn't that
enough?

Last edited Thu Jun 26, 2014, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Fail. Utter nonsense.

She'll be speaking for free plenty over the next 10 years.

People want to hear her speak. She is a historical, inspirational figure with insider knowledge and interesting experiences.

A lot of these deals are about prestige and access for the people booking the speaker. The funny thing is they probably could have gotten her for free in a year or two.

Please provide a link to that information.

Based on the reporting you are reading here but.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/reid-declines-second-guess-unlv-paying-hillary-clinton-speech

Do you work for free?

Is she somehow responsible for the irresponsible actions of the university who hired her?

kvetching that she should've done it for free, my question is why would she drive down her own stock like that? Like it or not, this is how they make their living now, and if she does it free for one, she'll be attacked because she's not doing it free for all.

Her Goldman-Sachs speaking fees were "only" $200,000 per speech. I gently suggest you consider the reality that it was/is as much in HRC's power to lower her fees as well as raise them.

And even if some celebrity-groupies/university trustees wanted to throw a posh soiree for their wealthy friends (up to $20,000 a seat), a good American citizen, let alone someone dangling the possibility of running for president (which is why people are willing to pay that exorbitant speaker's fee/individual per seat fee), would charge a public university considerably less than she charged Goldman-Sachs. I mean, she was just moaning about the burden of paying her daughter's college tuition, wasn't she? Has she NO empathy for the non-one-percent college students?

“If Hillary is going to run for President she might be advised to take a lengthy sabbatical from her $200k per pop speaking tour and private shopping sprees at Bergdorfs to try and reconnect with what’s happening back here on Earth,” America Rising spokesman Tim Miller wrote Sunday in the email to Politico.

In the 2012 presidential race, Democrats attacked GOP nominee Mitt Romney as rich and out of touch.

In return for legislative favors later.

They decided to sell out, so it ain't mitt's fault.

The logic is it is not the fault of the party profiting. Your logic says if the other agrees, it is their fault.

Her fee is her fee. If they choose to pay, it's their choice. She doesn't have to appear there.

and in British papers.

She speaks pro-bono for charities all of the time.

This place is starting to get really pathetic. DU = "anyone who makes more money than I do is a greedy corporatist".

Everyone in this situation wins so what is the problem?

organization. The monies are not (or better not be; by law) fungible. Hell, though it's not emphasized in the OP, "The university said private funds are being tapped to pay her speaking fee."

Has anyone replying ever been involved in university alumni and foundation activities. They raise money from the community and alumni and use the funds for operations and special events or weekly brown bags and so on. No, those monies don't go into the university's general fund other than paying for on campus space and resources.

The tuition raises are a completely different animal. Caused because the fuck-head repubs we've had running and destroying this state have been cutting state funds; the state has lost federal funds as the congressional repubs have been blocking every fucking thing and de-funding their own grandmothers.

Nevada state funds are down after a couple of decades of republicans running the government "like a business." It hasn't worked well.

By the way, the rj is the Las Vegas version of the oh-so-reliable dailymail. They backed bundy up to and until he embarrassed the crap out of them. They'll head back to that extreme as soon as the dust clears. If they head any further to the r/w, they'll be in fascist territory. In case you've forgotten, they were involved in the lawsuit against DU. In short, unreliable in their reporting is a compliment. The national enquirer is more reliable.

The next time anyone on this board wonders why we don't have a Democratic version of the millionaire/billionaire crowd to pit against the repub lucky-sperm club...look at the way we treat those who have managed to make a financial success. Anyone remember the OMG Al Gore lives in a mansion and flys all over the planet instead of saving energy while education people about saving energy!!!! What a hypocrite he is!!!

I'm sure he would have had quite the impact traveling by horse and row boat.

Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea should sell off all their assets and wear sack-cloth, begging on the streets so we can point out how we all "walk our talk" so we don't look like hypocrites. Al Gore needs a horse and a row boat.

While posting on the internet.


edit to add: I just noticed; the dailymail article in the OP conflates two separate articles from two different papers 3 weeks apart about 2 different events as though the one discussing the tuition hikes is part of the one discussing the speaking fees.

edit for clarity about UNLV Foundation the sponsoring organization that is using private funds to pay speaker's fees.

I shouted this, in all caps, because you apparently did not read the OP, where I stated this
TWICE, and of course cited it, in the apparently vain hope that even the most strident HRC fan would not be able to ignore this highly inconvenient fact! ! !

And this aspect cannot be emphasized too much: Although the engagement was confirmed on behalf of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, a university spokesperson is quoted below as stating that "the money will not go to the family philanthropy."

I didn't mention the Clinton Foundation.

I'll go fix that. I figured when I mentioned "Has anyone replying ever been involved in university alumni and foundation activities. They raise money from the community and alumni and use the funds for operations and special events or weekly brown bags and so on. No, those monies don't go into the university's general fund other than paying for on campus space and resources." and noted that they were separate issues, it might have been obvious.

I see that "strident" is more important than understanding.

and jumped right into a rant about fees being raised at UNLV. The university did not hire HRC, UNLV foundation hired HRC. Now the bash HRC group comes alive and does not get the correct story. I seriously doubt there would be any student of UNLV who would turn down a speaking engagement should they rise to the amount HRC commands.

No mention of his speaking fee.

The dailymail is not known for it's accuracy in reporting. Nor is the review journal. Please note that the dailymail also took quotes from a student who commented for an article about the tuition rates and combined them in this article with quotes from another student "outraged" at the amount of the speaking fees. There was a lot of questionable reporting in that article.

This is how spin is done. I thought people understood that.

The Foundation solicits funds from private donors, it isn't funded by student fees and there is no connection between the raise in tuition and anything the UNLV Foundation chooses to spend its money on, including speakers.

The raise in tuition, which is statewide, is primarily because the moronic Board of Regents who run NSHE, the Nevada System of Higher Education, are a corrupt and ineffective group who are more interested in raising the wages of coaches and approving new administrative positions than in providing a good, affordable education for students.

The issue was home flying private jets. He could have had the EXACT SAME IMPACT if he would have flown commercial.

Same logic applies here. Sure, she has every right charge what the market will bear. Just as a CEO is able to demand pay that the market will bear. Just as a hedge fund manager is able to make what the market will bear. However, we don't get to excuse her, while chastising the others.

Telling.

Seriously, I'm not anything like a HRC booster at this stage of the game, but come on.

I wish someone would pay me that much to speak.

I am talking about making a salary of hundreds of millions a year.

However, if you can't separate the pay from carried interest rules, how about CEO's salaries being what the market bears?

and bad deal making but if you're really complaining about costs then you should be looking at the top vendors of the college not a one time event expense.
Also HRC showing up at your school generates a lot of news coverage all over the country, especailly if she makes news, so write the cost off to marketing. There's a very real CPM value there UNLV but I don't expect most to understand.
That's basically why speaking fee's are charged to events etc.
the speaker's raise profile and generate publicity.
Your freaking mustard vendor costs you more than HRC will UNLV.

this just shows how desperate some are to attack HRC.
I love Warren but this kind of stuff is stupid.

You have to love all the people defending her for "making a living" by trading on the public offices held by her and her husband. We can forget the fact that this sort of thing is a very recent phenomenon in American history, despite all the claims to the contrary. We can forget the heavy inference of corruption, given that the payment isn't for the speech, but the opportunity to make a connection. What we shouldn't forget is how damned incompetent a supposedly unbeatable presidential candidate has been acting lately. It took Romney 4 years into his second campaign to make his most egregious mistakes. At her current rate, she'll have her 47% and binders full of women moments by Christmas.