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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:02 AM Jun 2014

Matt Lauer Asks Sexist Question Of GM’s Female CEO

In December, General Motors (GM) named its first female CEO, Mary Barra. Barra is also the first woman to run a global car company. She is also a mother to two children.

In an live interview on the Today Show on Thursday morning, host Matt Lauer questioned whether that meant she could do a good job at both running the company and being a good mother:


LAUER: You’re a mom, I mentioned, two kids. You said in an interview not long ago that your kids told you they’re going to hold you accountable for one job and that is being a mom.
BARRA: Correct.
LAUER: Given the pressures of this job at General Motors, can you do both well?


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/06/26/3453662/matt-lauer-mary-barra/

Also, he asked her if she was hired because she was a woman, not her qualifications, to present GM a softer face and image..... Of course, some people or at least many ask these questions (see #notallsexists), so Matt must also....



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Matt Lauer Asks Sexist Question Of GM’s Female CEO (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2014 OP
What A Buffoon! ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #1
This ought'a be good ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #2
Maybe they should? It's clearly a double standard. But maybe we should be quizzing men KittyWampus Jun 2014 #12
They probably do a bad job el_bryanto Jun 2014 #17
They should ask all otherCEOs if they were hired because they're men... bettyellen Jun 2014 #40
I agree - would have multiple benefits el_bryanto Jun 2014 #48
I think the it would be great to explore that too... bettyellen Jun 2014 #49
They Shouldn't ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #33
She didn't bring up the issue ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #37
She Brought It Up In A Prior Interview ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #39
Freaking idiot exboyfil Jun 2014 #3
I wouldn't actually expect the advisor to be able to answer the transfer credit questions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6
You are right exboyfil Jun 2014 #11
Yeah, at my university the advisors are useless laundry_queen Jun 2014 #42
Way to go exboyfil Jun 2014 #45
She handled it more gracefully than I would have. Heidi Jun 2014 #4
as I figured hfojvt Jun 2014 #21
He was interviewing Barra in the context of her role as CEO. Heidi Jun 2014 #24
Your critical thinking always blows me away. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #31
thanks hfojvt Jun 2014 #32
Yeah I agree with you. His critical thinking blows CreekDog Jun 2014 #35
The precise relevance of that question in regards to her position at the company is...? LanternWaste Jun 2014 #41
she has a vagina. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #47
He is an idiot misogynist. littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #5
Who watches it exboyfil Jun 2014 #7
Given that the "children" are teenagers, not in diapers Demeter Jun 2014 #8
She should have asked him if his kids had ever turned on the TV wondering BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #9
That's what I say. Let's start quizzing men with same questions. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #13
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mopinko Jun 2014 #18
This ^^ laundry_queen Jun 2014 #43
Haha! Quantess Jun 2014 #50
Way to go, Matt Lauer, you stupid jerk! mountain grammy Jun 2014 #10
Unless Lauer's asked the same 'splainin to do. nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #14
What do you expect from an assturd? nt valerief Jun 2014 #15
How fucking pathetic, Lauer is nothing more than a concern troll! Rex Jun 2014 #16
He's like Jeff Gannon. Octafish Jun 2014 #19
Oh? Scarsdale Jun 2014 #25
Great point. Octafish Jun 2014 #28
Thats the attitude of many males, they just don't get it. William769 Jun 2014 #20
How can he be a good father when he has to be at work so early in the morning? CreekDog Jun 2014 #36
Exactly. William769 Jun 2014 #46
What is needed TNNurse Jun 2014 #22
Snort!! Scarsdale Jun 2014 #23
What a slimeball. That interview was ugly and insulting to Mary Barra. I wish she would have said AlinPA Jun 2014 #26
I really wish she'd gone off on him, Lisa Kudrow-in-Scandal style. redqueen Jun 2014 #27
that was pretty awesome, I need to broaden my range of shows from the Discovery and Science channels snooper2 Jun 2014 #38
Well. That was AWESOME! Thanks for that. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #44
The mommy trap question: he doesn't want to know if she can do it. cheyanne Jun 2014 #29
Thank you. I've seen women turn it around like that Warpy Jun 2014 #51
Douche of the Day ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #30
He's always been a right-wing douchebag... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #34
Well, she's not doing a good job itsrobert Jun 2014 #52
you do know the mess previous MALE CEOs dumped on her Skittles Jun 2014 #53
by Lauers mercuryblues Jun 2014 #54
I hear you Skittles Jun 2014 #55
I'm sorry, she has been with GM for years itsrobert Jun 2014 #56

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
1. What A Buffoon!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jun 2014

He's an idiot, but i also question her mentioning the comments from her kids. Her kids have nothing to do with her job at GM. It doesn't matter if she's a mom or not when it comes to her CEO role.

She clearly shouldn't have to hide the fact that she has two kids, but that should have been that.

That minor criticism aside, his questions were ridiculous.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. This ought'a be good ...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jun 2014


BTW, I agree ... I've never heard the kids question asked of any male CEO, or of a male in any position.
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. Maybe they should? It's clearly a double standard. But maybe we should be quizzing men
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jun 2014

about their kids and how active a role they play at home besides winning some bread.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
17. They probably do a bad job
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:44 AM
Jun 2014

But the American work ethic is pretty shitty all the way around - basically Corporations have looked to cut staff as much as possible, and our new technological advances allow people to work nearly 24 hours a day. We take fewer vacation days and work a lot longer than is healthy or productive.

It's unlikely to change, though, as long as our executives believe "Why have two people when I can just make one person work harder."

It is a sexist question, because it would never be asked of a father - but it wouldn't be a bad question if it was asked of everybody, if that makes sense.

Bryant

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. They should ask all otherCEOs if they were hired because they're men...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jun 2014

And if they're the stereotypical "absentee father" and husband so typical at their level. Why not, if they insist on getting personal?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
49. I think the it would be great to explore that too...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:57 PM
Jun 2014

Since he's obviously admitting hiring men is the default setting, seems fair to me.

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
33. They Shouldn't
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jun 2014

She shouldn't either. It has nothing to do with the job of CEO. If somehow it did get in the way, she wouldn't have risen to this high a status.

If a big business person is being interviewed, it should be about business, unless they bring up the kids. And then, i question why the CEO is bringing up the issue of raising kids. An attempt at empathy?
GAC

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
39. She Brought It Up In A Prior Interview
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:52 PM
Jun 2014

In Forbes or Fortune, i forget which. I'm not castigating her. Just suggesting that CEO's need to set the boundaries of the interview. Once a public figure brings up a topic, it sort of becomes fair game.

And, please don't overread my point. I said in the first reply to this OP that Lauer is a buffoon. I'm not taking his side.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. Freaking idiot
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:12 AM
Jun 2014

I will give you another that got my blood boiling. My daughter had her university orientation this week. They insisted that she had to stay for Day 2 to talk to her adviser. Well her adviser was unable to answer any of her questions regarding credit transfer. She spent the majority of her time trying to talk my daughter out of taking the Sophomore Design class her first semester. Her reasoning, get ready for it, was because she would be a 18 year old taking the class with mostly 19 and 20 year old men.

Dinosaur. My daughter has already taken four classes from this university (1 Frosh, 2 Soph, and 1 Junior level engineering/math courses) while in High School. All As or A-s. She currently works as an intern at a large OEM company doing engineering level work (not alot of women around). She had 2 engineering classes with mostly boys and men in High School. Her Broadcast Journalism classes (she was an editor) were also mostly men.

I think she can handle the situation.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. I wouldn't actually expect the advisor to be able to answer the transfer credit questions.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:32 AM
Jun 2014

That's taken care of by some small bureaucratic department somewhere in the university, and they're the only ones who can answer definitively.

Of course, I basically ignored all of my 'advisors' other than my PhD one. If you're good enough to get into college, you should be able to figure out your schedule on your own to do what you want while meeting various degree requirements.

I tested out of various intro level coursework, and was quite annoyed that the school I initially went to still required me to take additional English courses anyway, then wouldn't let me take higher level courses, but instead demanded I take a godawful course on 'modern novels' because it was only sophomore level.

Bottom line - it's doubtful your daughter really needs course advice from anyone, other than, perhaps, a warning about which classes fill up fastest, so that she knows to be ready to jump into the online registration very quickly for those, and then to go back and add the courses that don't fill up instantly AFTER she's submitted for the ones that go in a flash.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
11. You are right
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:50 AM
Jun 2014

I was pretty sure that Day 2 was going to be a waste, but the advising coordinator was so insistent. I basically pushed to get her important classes scheduled in advance (during the window after all the students on campus had registered but before the transfers really got rolling). We were a little pushy, but we got the schedule she wanted. If we waited like what they recommended she would have had to fill her schedule with at least two classes that would not count for her major, and her critical path to graduation in 2 1/2 years would have been disrupted.

The same thing happened to my wife in school. She got horrible advice before I started dating her. They had her on the 4 1/2 to 5 year plan. After I was done she could have graduated in 3 1/2 years if she wished to. I did graduate in 3 1/2 years from engineering.

The nice thing about community college credit is that it is money in the bank. Because of articulation agreements, advisers can't challenge it (unlike AP courses which require additional tests even beyond the AP to prove aptitude and many tests which do not count for anything). Since she had the touchstone of the actual university classes (four of which she took online). I am not worried that the community college classes were inferior to the university classes. She has already demonstrated her ability to mix it up in the same grading pool with proctored tests as those students on campus.

I frankly think that college advising is part of the overall money racket associated with universities. They are making advice and decisions for students that will cost them thousands of dollars and limit their future options.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
42. Yeah, at my university the advisors are useless
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

and I had to talk to the head of my program to get my credits transferred (from the same school, no less). All the advisors told me it wasn't possible and to not bother trying.

Anyhow, I'm a single parent of 4. When I started my degree, I was told by an advisor to go part time for school. I was told I wouldn't be able to 'handle' being a parent and going to school full time and to stick to 2 courses per term. I proved her wrong, I went full time and will be graduating in a few months (just finished up all my courses and am waiting for my graduation application to go through).

I knew what I was capable of, and I was fine. Your daughter knows that she is capable, so she will be fine as well.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
45. Way to go
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:24 PM
Jun 2014

That is quite an accomplishment - you should be very proud. My wife and I have two, and she is a stay at home mom, and it was difficult for us and they are very good kids.

I have only worked with one adviser in all my years of high school and college, that I thought shined. He was my daughters' high school adviser for college classes. Unfortunately he took another job at the end of this school year so my younger daughter won't benefit from his ability to run the traps to get my daughter's PSEO classes approved. Fortunately her courses are a little simpler (my older daughter took classes from three different colleges or universities which the high school did not have a typical working relationship with).

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
4. She handled it more gracefully than I would have.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:15 AM
Jun 2014

He would never have asked of Alan Mulally (Ford CEO) or Sergio Marchionne (Chrysler CEO):

"Given the pressures of this job, can you be both a good CEO and a good father?"

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
21. as I figured
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:29 AM
Jun 2014

Alan became CEO at age 60.

I would expect his children to be grown unless he is on his 2nd (or more) marriage.

Sergio became CEO of Chrysler at age 57.

Mary Barra is 52. My little sister is 50, her kids are 23 and 21 and one of them is married. My little brother is 49, his kids are 21 and 20.

Are Mary's kids even under age 18?

Always possible. My older sister is 54 and her kids are 34, 28 and 16.
When dad's mom turned 52 her kids would have been 16, 15 and 12.

But those CEOs are more like grandparents than parents.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
24. He was interviewing Barra in the context of her role as CEO.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

There was no reason to ask her anything about her private role as a mother.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
32. thanks
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jun 2014

or same to you.

Calvin: I'm a genius, but I'm misunderstood.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin (walking out of the room with his shirt on his legs and his pants on his head) Nobody believes I'm a genius.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. The precise relevance of that question in regards to her position at the company is...?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jun 2014

"Are Mary's kids even under age 18? "

The precise relevance of that question in regards to her position at the company is...?

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
7. Who watches it
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:34 AM
Jun 2014

It is just a noise box to me (can't get my wife off the glass teat).

Harlan Ellison wrote a series of essays collected in two volumes over 40 years ago:

The Glass Teat
The Other Glass Teat

They still apply today. I lost my copy of one of those volumes unfortunately in my many moves.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
8. Given that the "children" are teenagers, not in diapers
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:37 AM
Jun 2014

and have a living father, this shouldn't be an issue.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
9. She should have asked him if his kids had ever turned on the TV wondering
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:40 AM
Jun 2014

where in the world is my divorced dad Matt Lauer.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
43. This ^^
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jun 2014

Women who are asked these kinds of questions should always turn it back around on the interviewer.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. How fucking pathetic, Lauer is nothing more than a concern troll!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:41 AM
Jun 2014

Then again, he is just another millionaire mouthpiece for the 'news' machine. I expect nothing but garbage from an M$M acolyte.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
25. Oh?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jun 2014

Did Lauer spend overnights over 200 times during the Bush/Rove days?? There is an investigation Issa the Assa should "get behind"!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
28. Great point.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

My first impression was Lauer acting as plant for shaming through questions.



MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Jeff.

Q (MR. GANNON): Thank you. The imam [Yassin M. Aref] that was arrested in [Albany] New York last week was discovered because his name appeared in a Rolodex in a terrorist training camp in Iraq before the war. The book was found after, by U.S. troops, but he was in Iraq before the war. Is this another piece of evidence showing the direct terror ties between Iraq and al Qaeda?

SOURCE: http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/02/02/go-ahead-jeff-talon-news-reporter-jeff-gannon-i/132676



And to think they made Helen Thomas go to the back of the bus for having the temerity to ask an unscripted question.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
22. What is needed
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jun 2014

Is a calm articulate career woman and mother to turn the question back on him. But of course she would be labeled a bitch and attacked.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. Snort!!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jun 2014

This equates to our President being blamed for Bushs wars. The entire mess from previous well paid MEN was dumped into her lap, while they took their bonuses and went looking for another do-nothing job. Lauer should be asked if HIS job gets in the way of him being a good dad? After all, hasn't he had affairs with most of the co-anchors? This woman is being paid LESS than the people who dodged the bullets. They should answer for their mismanagement.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
26. What a slimeball. That interview was ugly and insulting to Mary Barra. I wish she would have said
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

"you are insulting me, you filthy pig".

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
38. that was pretty awesome, I need to broaden my range of shows from the Discovery and Science channels
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

cheyanne

(733 posts)
29. The mommy trap question: he doesn't want to know if she can do it.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jun 2014

Never, never, respond to that question with any declaration of competence. It only legitimatizes the question, and makes the woman sound defensive.

The question is designed to remind all viewers that women are handicapped in the business world; that they lose some intangible "mommy" ability when they are successful.

Has no one ever given Ms. Barra a course in handling tough questions? Isn't there a class for women dealing with unspoken stereotypes?

That said, how should she have handled the question.

First, it's a teaching moment.

We need to turn that non-question around (akin to have you stopped beating your wife).

The question we need to answer is "how did you did you manage both family and career to get where you are?"

It's a chance for her to explain how she has done so well in her career. Explain the things that are needed: family support? child care? Husband? What about her early years: what has changed. How her kids adapted to her career as they got older.


Second, it's a promo moment.

She has a chance here to showcase her skills and the skills of her family (in which she probably had a big influence).

She should have played up her childrens' response: they made it clear that they have high standards for her and by implication she has met them in the past.

Women need to be aware that they are "on camera" at all times and need to reframe the question, not answer it.

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
51. Thank you. I've seen women turn it around like that
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014

and I've seen men splutter and turn purple while not saying their child care is all pushed off on women, either wives or nannies or (most common) a combination of the two.

Turning it around and reframing it to show kids have two parents is about the best we can do for now.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
56. I'm sorry, she has been with GM for years
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jun 2014

And she didn't have a clue on the defective product they were turning out? Very shady.

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