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William769

(55,145 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:18 AM Jun 2014

St. Louis Archdiocese condemns city for issuing same-sex marriage licenses

ST. LOUIS — The Catholic Archdiocese of St. Louis is condemning a city move challenging Missouri’s constitutional ban on same-sex marriage by issuing marriage licenses to four gay and lesbian couples.

The diocese issued a written statement calling the city decision a violation of “the laws of our state (that) disregard(s) the laws of nature.”

Four same-sex couples were married Wednesday a City Hall ceremony. The city decision was an intentional effort to force state courts to overturn the constitutional ban passed by state voters a decade ago.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/06/st-louis-archdiocese-condemns-city-for-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses/

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St. Louis Archdiocese condemns city for issuing same-sex marriage licenses (Original Post) William769 Jun 2014 OP
None of the church's fucking business. It's a civil matter. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #1
Amen. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #2
"disregard(s) the laws of nature" William769 Jun 2014 #3
Sez the Cult of Child-Rapists... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #4
PeaceNikki issues a written statement telling the RCC to stay the fuck out of secular matters. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #5
May I be a co-sign on that? William769 Jun 2014 #6
Absolutely! PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #9
Me too! theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #16
Well just fuck him. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #7
The nerve of St Louis Archdiocese should make the world furious. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #8
Great follow-up! William769 Jun 2014 #10
This is the last man in the world who should be publicly opining on the morality of others. bklyncowgirl Jun 2014 #27
Archbishop Carlson recently also claimed to not know that child sexual abuse is a crime. rug Jun 2014 #11
I wonder what he thought it was then? MoonRiver Jun 2014 #12
Actually all religious leaders from any denomination should stay out of politics. William769 Jun 2014 #14
Yet he remains in a powerful position. MineralMan Jun 2014 #18
Why, you may ask him yourself, MineralMan: rug Jun 2014 #20
I haven't communicated with any Pope. MineralMan Jun 2014 #21
I'm flattered then. You value my opinion above the Pope's. rug Jun 2014 #22
I asked because you seem to follow the RCC's activities more closely than I do. MineralMan Jun 2014 #25
I'm sure that was your only motive. rug Jun 2014 #30
My words are there to see. MineralMan Jun 2014 #31
F off.. joeybee12 Jun 2014 #13
Much to do about nothing! Begone you got no power here upaloopa Jun 2014 #15
When will they ever learn? MineralMan Jun 2014 #17
The issue of these licenses are a civil matter which do not concern Rome. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #19
My message to the St. Louis Archdiocese: go fuck yourself. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #24
And tomorrow is the gay pride parade. Good timing! randome Jun 2014 #26
which Law of Nature would that be? xchrom Jun 2014 #28
Ah, if those assholes only had the power they had 700 years ago... snooper2 Jun 2014 #29
I understand the IRS is a little sensitive currently dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #32
I'm ready to take them on. One frock at a time. William769 Jun 2014 #33
Song for you dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #34
Yes I am. William769 Jun 2014 #35

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. None of the church's fucking business. It's a civil matter.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

And the Church of Pedophilia just needs to STFU.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
4. Sez the Cult of Child-Rapists...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

...Or is it the "law of nature" that allows your employees to fuck little boys?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Well just fuck him.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jun 2014

Maybe somebody should ask the good archdiocese how many little boys he molested this week.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. The nerve of St Louis Archdiocese should make the world furious.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

Some of their Greatest Hits:
Anderson: "Archbishop, you knew it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a kid."

Carlson: "I'm not sure I knew whether it was a crime or not. I understand today it's a crime."

Anderson: "When did you first discern it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a kid?"

Carlson: "I don't remember."

Anderson: "When did you first discern that it was a crime for a priest to engage in sex with a kid who he had under his control?"

Carlson: "I don't remember that either."

Anderson: "Do you have any doubt in your mind that you knew that in the '70s?"

Carlson: "I don't remember if I did or didn't."

Anderson: "In 1984, you are a bishop, an auxiliary bishop in the archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis. You knew it was a crime then, right?"

Carlson: "I'm not sure if I did or didn't."


http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/06/archbishop_robert_j_carlson_didnt_know_raping_kids_is_a_crime.php

Archdiocese of St. Louis fights judge's order to release unprecedented level of abuse records.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/archdiocese-of-st-louis-fights-judge-s-order-to-release/article_675bc6e8-7e46-5974-b561-a952ba914194.html

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
27. This is the last man in the world who should be publicly opining on the morality of others.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jun 2014

His covering up for child-molesting priests is going to cost the ordinary, law-abiding Catholics in his diocese millions. This sort of nonsense is why I left the Catholic church years ago. I had hopes that Pope Francis might do something to get rid of these enabler bishops but he seems rather more interested in cleaning up the church's financial mismanagement (admittedly a major priority) than dealing with his church's greatest moral failing since the failing to denounce the Holocaust.

My mother would have died happy if I'd returned to Catholicism while she lived but right now I'm perfectly content to be an agnostic most of the time and a Christmas and Easter Lutheran.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
11. Archbishop Carlson recently also claimed to not know that child sexual abuse is a crime.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jun 2014
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/recent-york-jail-suicides-24328309



If he wanted to be a politician he should have joined the tea party instead.

William769

(55,145 posts)
14. Actually all religious leaders from any denomination should stay out of politics.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jun 2014

But I'm a dreamer.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
18. Yet he remains in a powerful position.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

Why is that, Rug? Where is the "enlightened" Pope Francis?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
20. Why, you may ask him yourself, MineralMan:
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jun 2014

av@pccs.va

Alternately you can mail the pope via usual mail at this address:

His Holiness, Pope Francis PP.
00120 Via del Pellegrino
Citta del Vaticano

Assuming your post was made in sincerity.

Now, if you're implying something altogether different, you can state it to me clearly, I think.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
21. I haven't communicated with any Pope.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jun 2014

As a non-Catholic, it doesn't seem as though my opinion would make any difference to a Pope.

I don't imply things, rug. I state them.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. I'm flattered then. You value my opinion above the Pope's.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

And yes, you do, MineralMan. You frequently imply many things. Often unsuccessfully.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
25. I asked because you seem to follow the RCC's activities more closely than I do.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014

But never mind.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
30. I'm sure that was your only motive.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

Not that it explains this:

Why is that, Rug? Where is the "enlightened" Pope Francis?


But, as you say, never mind.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
17. When will they ever learn?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

Out of time. Out of place. Out of reason. That's the Roman Catholic Church today. Just out.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
19. The issue of these licenses are a civil matter which do not concern Rome.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:55 PM
Jun 2014

I would advise the archdiocese that the dark ages have past and enlightened society has replaced the Roman church.
A Civilized people do not need the advise of this archaic institution.

Response to William769 (Original post)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. And tomorrow is the gay pride parade. Good timing!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jun 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
28. which Law of Nature would that be?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jun 2014

the one where bears give each other blow jobs?

where apes indulge in same sex activities?

how about the gay penguin natural law?

the list can go on.

the archbishop should shut up because he's an idiot.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
29. Ah, if those assholes only had the power they had 700 years ago...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jun 2014

Go back to the dark ages assholes, it is where you belong

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
32. I understand the IRS is a little sensitive currently
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jun 2014

However, we should be supplying them with all the evidence we can that shows the Catholic church no longer qualifies for its tax exemption.

We might be biting off more than we can chew if the churches make it their business to be involved in politics, but we can sure as hell (pun intended) make it more expensive for them and their financial supporters to do so.

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