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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:11 PM Jun 2014

VICE - Kids Telling Dirty Jokes: Ruby (NSFW!, TRIGGER WARNING!, RUDE LANGUAGE!, OFFENSIVE!)

now that the disclaimers are out of the way-


The comments on the video have some saying this is child abuse- others think she is a funny young girl-
You decide!


VICE

Published on Jun 27, 2014

Check out Logan in Episode 3 now!: http://www.vice.com/kids-telling-dirt...

Meet Ruby—the type of girl the Tea Party would be happy to have on their side. Yeah, she might look like a doll straight out of an American Girl catalog, but at least she's not afraid to share her thoughts on circumcision and the modern women.





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VICE - Kids Telling Dirty Jokes: Ruby (NSFW!, TRIGGER WARNING!, RUDE LANGUAGE!, OFFENSIVE!) (Original Post) snooper2 Jun 2014 OP
I can't imagine who would think that was a good idea. MineralMan Jun 2014 #1
I have to agree, more or less. This seems exploitative. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #15
Parents seem to have forgotten about their own kidhoods Warpy Jun 2014 #2
were you put front and center denigrating your own sex, for grown men to giggle at the seabeyond Jun 2014 #5
But I doubt you told them to your parents or teachers rocktivity Jun 2014 #13
Not from my own parents Warpy Jun 2014 #14
DING DING DING! Warpy, you're our grand prize winner!!! rocktivity Jun 2014 #20
Yup--I picked up on that exact point. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #27
It might be funnier if she got the jokes aikoaiko Jun 2014 #3
seriously? and who taught her this shit? the men just a laughin' and a laughin'? you know, grown seabeyond Jun 2014 #4
not sure where they find the kids, been a couple seasons now- snooper2 Jun 2014 #6
i do not do this with my kids. if it is not good enough for my boys, i am not going to seabeyond Jun 2014 #8
I've heard (and repeated) the Clapton one before. So cruel but so funny. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #16
too bad you stopped, you could have heard the one about the lesbian and the walrus CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #12
Under different circumstances, I would have voted that as a stealth personal attack rocktivity Jun 2014 #22
This most certainly does merit a visit from child protective services rocktivity Jun 2014 #7
It's not an audience, just the producers from VICE Media snooper2 Jun 2014 #9
So none of the kids are theirs? rocktivity Jun 2014 #10
Dirty is one thing but the homophobic one at the end was over the top. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #11
Yeah, I'm not the easily offended type, but some of these jokes are just gross and mean-spirited nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #18
The concept is somewhat amusing, the actual execution not as much. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #17
It's obviously scripted,she looks uncomfortable sufrommich Jun 2014 #19
A perfect storm of appalling judgment, exploitation, and pedophilia normalizing rocktivity Jun 2014 #21
Fucking creepy ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #23
Somehow I don't have a problem defacto7 Nov 2014 #24
The question of child abuse is for trained, child psychologists. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #25
I think any time anyone uses children in an age - inappropriate context it's just not cool. MADem Nov 2014 #26

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
1. I can't imagine who would think that was a good idea.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jun 2014

Poor kid. Kids tell dirty jokes, but they don't do it while being videoed in front of a white backdrop.

Warpy

(111,143 posts)
2. Parents seem to have forgotten about their own kidhoods
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

I remember quite clearly being about this age and telling jokes that would put a rat off a garbage truck. I wasn't alone, either.

Parents think kids like this are all bubble gum and jump ropes.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. were you put front and center denigrating your own sex, for grown men to giggle at the
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

degradation?

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
13. But I doubt you told them to your parents or teachers
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jun 2014

That would have taken all the "kidhood" out of it -- not to mention gotten you grounded for a decade with a mouth full of soap.


rocktivity

Warpy

(111,143 posts)
14. Not from my own parents
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jun 2014

I did scandalize one neighborhood when I was about 10 by teaching the kids the lyrics to some of the racier songs in "Damn Yankees," a show album my parents played a lot.

My parents realized it was their own fault and there was no punishment, although I did get a lecture on where boundaries were for the future.

Then again, they'd already bought a house elsewhere and we were preparing to move.

I knew adults were largely humorless when it came to dirty jokes from kids. I didn't even tell the ones I'd heard to my own parents.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
20. DING DING DING! Warpy, you're our grand prize winner!!!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sun May 8, 2016, 11:46 PM - Edit history (2)

My parents realized it was their own fault and there was no punishment, although I did get a lecture on where boundaries were for the future.

You said the magic word: Your parents realized that a BOUNDARY between the kid and adult worlds had been breached. They KNEW it was WRONG -- AND THEY TOOK CORRECTIVE ACTION!











rocktivity


Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. Yup--I picked up on that exact point.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:04 PM
Nov 2014

Kids telling each other dirty jokes (and migod, how ineffably STUPID most of those jokes were), being kids, is something else. Putting this child into an adult onstage setting & fawning over her is a violation of her childhood. It is a boundary violation. It is not OK, and I can readily imagine harm arising from it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. seriously? and who taught her this shit? the men just a laughin' and a laughin'? you know, grown
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

men... placing this girl in front of them, to say this shit?

stopped it after three.

damn, this is embarrassing for men. i cannot see it any other way.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. not sure where they find the kids, been a couple seasons now-
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jun 2014

I still love this kids redneck joke at the end




 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. i do not do this with my kids. if it is not good enough for my boys, i am not going to
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jun 2014

giggle about other kids being taught this shit when a parent should be doing their job. there is nothing cute, but abuse of adult power. i watch a man manipulate his daughter in one way, and two sons another that has caused harm to all three. they are trying to figure it out in their late teens and early twenties. you know. fix the parents fuck up.

i am not interested at all.

it is sick. putting that young girl up front, in front of men, saying these things about women and using language. i do not need to watch anymore.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
12. too bad you stopped, you could have heard the one about the lesbian and the walrus
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jun 2014

There was a time such a joke would possibly have gotten a person banned from DU but not in the capricious jury age.


A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:47 PM, and voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Give me a break! The warning in the subject line said this is "offensive." The text before the video said the girl in the video could easily be a Tea Party member. There's no reason to hide the video any more than there is a need to hide other posts that contain photos of teabaggers carrying offensive signs.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter needs to get a sense of humor. Frivolous alert.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: After all those warnings in the subject line, this gets alerted? I haven't watched the video, I admit, but the subject line warns that the video contains content that could be considered "offensive" by many.


NOTICE Juror number 7 did not even watch the video. great job juror 7!!

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
22. Under different circumstances, I would have voted that as a stealth personal attack
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

But within the context of this thread, it's actually a perfect illustration of WHY adults videotaping kids telling dirty jokes is such an awfully awful idea.


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
7. This most certainly does merit a visit from child protective services
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jun 2014

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especially since there don't seem to be any women in the "audience."

I swapped dirty jokes with my sisters, friends, and schoolmates as a kid, and I'm sure my sisters' kids did, too. But we had enough sense to draw the line at swapping them with ADULTS!


rocktivity

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. It's not an audience, just the producers from VICE Media
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jun 2014

Just saw now that they find the kids on Craigslist of all places-


Kids Telling Dirty Jokes is our new series that features tiny comedians we found on Craigslist. The premiere episode stars Talin, who looks like a sweetie but is actually the devil. Someday he'll be on a Disney show like Dog with a Blog, sleeping with all three of his female co-stars, and every morning he'll wake up thinking, I owe it all to VICE Media. You're welcome, Talin!


rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
10. So none of the kids are theirs?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:49 PM - Edit history (3)

And they think it's cute to claim they were recruited from Craigslist?

I rest my case.


rocktivity

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
11. Dirty is one thing but the homophobic one at the end was over the top.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

and absolutely inappropriate for DU.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
18. Yeah, I'm not the easily offended type, but some of these jokes are just gross and mean-spirited
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jun 2014

and maybe most importantly, not funny. And the "shock" factor of a 10-year-old telling them wears off pretty fast.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
17. The concept is somewhat amusing, the actual execution not as much.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jun 2014

I wouldn't suggest that the kids are being harmed by it in any meaningful way, but I do wonder a bit RE: the adults involved.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. It's obviously scripted,she looks uncomfortable
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:44 PM
Jun 2014

regardless of the smile,and it's incredibly exploitative.Shame on whoever thought filming this and putting it on the internet this was a good idea.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
21. A perfect storm of appalling judgment, exploitation, and pedophilia normalizing
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sun Jul 28, 2019, 12:08 PM - Edit history (3)

Appropriate only for the intermissions of a child porn film festival.


rocktivity

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
23. Fucking creepy
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

Little girl telling sexist and homophobic jokes with grown men laughing in the background. Reminds of of a bunch of pedophiles grooming their next victim.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
24. Somehow I don't have a problem
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014

with kids repeating or laughing at dirty jokes, but I don't put misogyny, bigotry, racism, and any kind of belittling of other humans in that category. Misogyny, bigotry, racism and negative categorizing of persons are not jokes. They are a way to promulgate the hate and undermine the seriousness of it. When a child is involved, to me it's abusive. When it's adults in the background guffawing and promoting this behavior, it verges on pedophilia.

Who's the audience? That answers a lot.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
25. The question of child abuse is for trained, child psychologists.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:54 PM
Nov 2014

I don't see the immediate harm, but there could be things going on psychologically that I am unaware of.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. I think any time anyone uses children in an age - inappropriate context it's just not cool.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:01 PM
Nov 2014

I don't go for using children to tout political views either.

In fact, children as little "mini-salesmen" to me is uncomfortably close to child abuse, too. I don't like seeing some little kid selling me anything from a car to paper towels.

Let kids be kids....

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