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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:44 PM Jun 2014

I SHIT YOU NOT: GOP Candidate Charges Opponent Is Dead, Represented By A Body Double

UPDATE: OK GOP Primary candidate refuses to concede to Congressman Frank Lucas (R) because he believes that Congressman Lucas has been dead for two years and that apparently the DoD replaced him with a clone or surgically altered double. I SHIT YOU NOT:




WASHINGTON -- Political opponents accuse each other of lying all the time, but one Oklahoma congressional candidate took his accusation to a new level this week when he claimed his opponent was actually dead and being represented by a body double.

KFOR in Oklahoma reports that Timothy Ray Murray believes Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.), his opponent in the congressional Republican primary, was executed three years ago and is being represented by a look-alike. Because he believes Lucas is really dead, Murray said he will challenge the results of Tuesday's Republican primary, in which Murray received 5.2 percent of the vote. Lucas won the primary with 82.8 percent of the vote.

"It is widely known Rep. Frank D. Lucas is no longer alive and has been displayed by a look alike. Rep. Lucas’ look alike was depicted as sentenced on a white stage in southern Ukraine on or about Jan. 11, 2011," Murray said in a statement posted on his campaign website. The statement claimed Lucas and “a few other” members of Congress from Oklahoma and other states were shown on television being hanged by “The World Court.”

"I am contesting that this matter has happen [sic] since his election was blocked, because of the U.S. Defense Department’s use of Mr. Murray's DNA. To my knowledge, the U.S. Defense Department has not released to the public that information, as it is their confidential information about many people," Murray's statement said.




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I SHIT YOU NOT: GOP Candidate Charges Opponent Is Dead, Represented By A Body Double (Original Post) kpete Jun 2014 OP
Pretty funny yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #1
John Ashwipe Fred Gilmore Jun 2014 #49
I wanted to write something witty, but my brain just died a horrible, screaming death. DetlefK Jun 2014 #2
LOL Faux pas Jun 2014 #12
+2 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #74
Evidence of OK being the meth capital of the US. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #3
It's not that SwankyXomb Jun 2014 #65
Jesus frackin' meth! nt valerief Jun 2014 #78
These are the same people that want to lead the country..... Historic NY Jun 2014 #4
Yeah. Kinda terrifying, isn't it? calimary Jun 2014 #39
Easy to manipulate by those who wish to salib Jun 2014 #47
No they don't. What they want to do is scuttle it and fence the scrap TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #85
ROFLMFAO!!!!! stevenleser Jun 2014 #5
Well, if it's "widely known" that Lucas is a body double, then who are we to doubt Murray? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #6
There needs to be a mental stability qualification for anyone to run for RKP5637 Jun 2014 #7
True. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #52
That would drain the candidate pool in a hurry. bluedigger Jun 2014 #89
... RKP5637 Jun 2014 #98
And, he just failed. Cha Jun 2014 #93
Mandrake, I suppose it never occurred to you that while we're chatting here so enjoyably... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #96
Bingo!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #97
More and more OP's one would bet originated from The Onion, but no..it's just Republicans evolving. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #8
evolving? devolving? rurallib Jun 2014 #35
lol, you got it..perfect. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #41
seems overly flattering. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #45
"Frank is dead, miss him, miss him..." edbermac Jun 2014 #9
Beat me to it! deutsey Jun 2014 #21
Backward CD? Very cool! riqster Jun 2014 #26
"Turn me on, dead man... " Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #40
He ain't dead, 'just smells that way. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #92
I wonder if anyone will follow up on this story? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #10
Unfortunately, this is of no surprise coming from the GOP liberal N proud Jun 2014 #11
He's dead Tim. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #13
This is sad. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #14
agreed Skittles Jun 2014 #15
+1 BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #94
Since the DOD hasn't released any information whistler162 Jun 2014 #16
well, i guess the question becomes, how good a legislator is the clone/body double? 0rganism Jun 2014 #17
Reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke about the cousin who thought he was a chicken RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #34
Bet this guy is a Birther, too. This is a whole new conspiracy: Where's the Long Form Death Cert?!!! Hekate Jun 2014 #18
What if this guy is suffering from a mental illness? CJCRANE Jun 2014 #19
I so agree with you. And what's scary is people out there are voting for him woodsprite Jun 2014 #23
This guy must be related to Lee Mercer, Jr. madinmaryland Jun 2014 #20
Fucking crazy assholes gopiscrap Jun 2014 #22
After 43 years, I will be leaving Oklahoma. Just in time, it would seem CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #24
WOW BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #95
Mr. Murray "Monsters vs. Aliens" was NOT a documentary underpants Jun 2014 #25
Damn it, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a clone! riqster Jun 2014 #27
Of course, it's not a body double, Mr. Murray csziggy Jun 2014 #28
No doubt a stranger to reality rickyhall Jun 2014 #29
Lucas isn't really dead RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #30
or maybe he's hiking the Appalachian Trail? NewJeffCT Jun 2014 #32
Exactly. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #55
Breaking - Tim Ray Murray has been found NewJeffCT Jun 2014 #31
Who did they replace him with? Spirochete Jun 2014 #33
This is a joke, right? blackspade Jun 2014 #36
I wonder whether Murray has Capgras delusion RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #37
Yes, I had the same thought when I read this. n/t Tanuki Jun 2014 #64
Gawd Bless Mercuh! Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #38
Murray is a tea bagger, right? Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #42
If there was a "Dumb Shit" Award, ReRe Jun 2014 #43
They have to do this Turbineguy Jun 2014 #44
Wow,...I had no idea Oklahoma was the center of the universe. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #46
While I don't believe Lucas is a clone, I do believe that all GOP'er are aliens. Javaman Jun 2014 #48
This is great! This is the second time this week that.............. wandy Jun 2014 #50
SHIT...How did he find out?!!! Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #51
why didn't he just use the evil twin theory? BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #53
Well, Blanche, it may interest you to know that I have an evil twin Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #100
.... Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #54
Seems to be perfectly normal behavior for Teabaggers to not accept the results of an election under world wide wally Jun 2014 #56
Big fan of the movie "Dave"???? TNNurse Jun 2014 #57
5% - 3,442 Republicans - voted for this loon muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #58
SMDH VA_Jill Jun 2014 #59
All my stuff was stolen last night Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #60
I wonder if you play a record backwards, it says "Frank is dead." Sanity Claws Jun 2014 #61
Delusional Sienna86 Jun 2014 #62
I'm definitely voting for Not Quite Right after looking at his homepage. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #68
This guy is dead? muntrv Jun 2014 #63
Wow rpannier Jun 2014 #66
This is a very sad and troubled man. Ineeda Jun 2014 #67
He doth protest too much. Downwinder Jun 2014 #70
Pharmacies, eh? bluedigger Jun 2014 #90
He ran for the same seat as a Democrat in 2012 DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #69
Schizophrenia maybe but explain his voters !! lunasun Jun 2014 #82
The Onion has been pwned. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #71
Or something? Aerows Jun 2014 #84
Their whole party have went stock raving mad SummerSnow Jun 2014 #72
A good comment from the Huff po site treestar Jun 2014 #73
LOL! valerief Jun 2014 #77
Okay, I though the whole "World Cup is un-American" nonsense Aerows Jun 2014 #75
Clonegate. This beats Birthergate. valerief Jun 2014 #76
To quote Will Smith in "Men In Black": Initech Jun 2014 #79
Only in Oklahoma! avebury Jun 2014 #80
More batshit crazy from his website lunasun Jun 2014 #81
Forget it Jake, it's Knuckledrag The Second Stone Jun 2014 #83
This guy did a half gainer into the deep end elias49 Jun 2014 #86
The Doppelbagger Blue Owl Jun 2014 #87
Capgras MisterP Jun 2014 #88
I have to admit, he does look like a surgically altered double. zonkers Jun 2014 #91
And Murray is a hologram... pipi_k Jun 2014 #99
 

Fred Gilmore

(80 posts)
49. John Ashwipe
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jun 2014

lost to a dead man, Mel Carnahan, in a Mizery senate election in 2000. Some of these pukes and baggers are so disliked that voters prefer zombies..........LOL

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
85. No they don't. What they want to do is scuttle it and fence the scrap
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jun 2014

Then usher in a less caring and less responsible form of feudalism than the past with the fat cats as lords wrapped in a flag made utterly meaningless and sanctified by prosperity gospel.

The Turd Way wants fascism softened by multiculturalism and phony democracy, where corporation and state merge.

Neither is acceptable but some seem ready to swallow it if the rulers sometimes look like them and they can pretend to vote for the face of the devil.

I suspect they hope to meet somewhere in the middle, aka "bipartisanship".

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
6. Well, if it's "widely known" that Lucas is a body double, then who are we to doubt Murray?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

I was skeptical until Murray informed us it was "widely known" that the real Frank Lucas is dead and has been replaced by an imposter.

I'm not one to go up against popular belief, after all.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
45. seems overly flattering.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jun 2014

This is not my opinion. It is the opinion of my clone.

The original BlancheSplanchnik died shortly after viewing a clip from Fox Newz, as a result of a cerebrovascular accident precipitated by exposure to lethal levels of assholery.

Fortunately, the original BlancheSplanchnik had prepared for such an eventuality, correctly predicting that repuke assholery would continue to rise exponentially until inevitably reaching a parts per million concentration known to be fatal to intelligent life.


edbermac

(15,937 posts)
9. "Frank is dead, miss him, miss him..."
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

It's true! I just played my Abbey Road CD backwards and heard that.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
21. Beat me to it!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jun 2014

I was going to say, "Hey, if the Beatles could pull it off using a body double after Paul died, anything's possible."

bluesbassman

(19,369 posts)
13. He's dead Tim.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jun 2014

Seriously I hope he wins. Gonna be a R there anyway so might as well have one that's good for a few laughs.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
14. This is sad.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jun 2014

This guy probably has real mental problems, but because he's a tea partier people think it's just more RW blather and fake conspiracy theories.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
16. Since the DOD hasn't released any information
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jun 2014

it must be true!

Lucas's denial would have been more convincing if a aide wasn't standing behind him with a remote control unit and a can of oil!

0rganism

(23,937 posts)
17. well, i guess the question becomes, how good a legislator is the clone/body double?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jun 2014

i mean, maybe Clone Lucas is doing a fantastic job representing his constituents, and deserves another term by their measure...

Oh wait -- it's the Republicans, so competence and ability to govern have nothing to do with how candidates perform in elections. Nevermind.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
34. Reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke about the cousin who thought he was a chicken
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jun 2014

We'd put him in an institution, but we really need the eggs.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
18. Bet this guy is a Birther, too. This is a whole new conspiracy: Where's the Long Form Death Cert?!!!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jun 2014

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
19. What if this guy is suffering from a mental illness?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jun 2014

I know everyone's laughing about it, but it's rather alarming that these kind of statements are accepted as normal RW political discourse.

woodsprite

(11,910 posts)
23. I so agree with you. And what's scary is people out there are voting for him
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jun 2014

and people in here think it would be a hoot to have him elected to office.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
24. After 43 years, I will be leaving Oklahoma. Just in time, it would seem
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jun 2014

before the lunatics take the place over. Moving to Mauritius by the end of the year.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
95. WOW
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 03:35 AM
Jun 2014

Please share photos once you get there. That's on my list for travel. That must be quite a change from landlocked Oklahoma.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
30. Lucas isn't really dead
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jun 2014

He's down in Argentina, along with Hitler, JFK, and Elvis, all of whom are widely known to be still alive.

(BTW, this revelation has no impact whatsoever on the fact that Orrin Hatch is a space alien.)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
31. Breaking - Tim Ray Murray has been found
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jun 2014

to have had his brain removed, and was using a box of rocks as a substitute.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
37. I wonder whether Murray has Capgras delusion
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jun 2014

It's a bizarre neurological disorder where the patient believes a friend or loved one has been replaced by an impostor.
It usually occurs in paranoid schizophrenics or people who have experienced some sort of brain trauma.



ReRe

(10,597 posts)
43. If there was a "Dumb Shit" Award,
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jun 2014

... this one might win as nominee in the "Best Dumb Shit" category. Really, there is no depth they will not go, because believe it or not, there are people who actually believe their dumb shit shenanigans.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
50. This is great! This is the second time this week that..............
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jun 2014

a teapublican is doing something more entertaining than dangerous.
We should encourage this behavior!
Send him supportive E-Mails.
Heck send him a DVD of Blade Runner or Brian De Palma's Body Double.
Support Timothy Ray Murray's harmless dealusion. It is in no way as dangerous as the dark mussings of John McCain.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
51. SHIT...How did he find out?!!!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jun 2014

How hard were the Overlord's instructions, people? Just don't tell this ONE guy in Oklahoma! Who blabbed?
I bet it was Mitch....he leaves secret paperwork laying around all the time. Damn it Mitch, didn't you learn from the FEMA camp memo you left in Albuquerque?

Okay everybody, sneak out of your houses tonight and we'll meet in San Francisco for an emergency meeting to get this back undercover...

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
53. why didn't he just use the evil twin theory?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jun 2014

The evil twin theory is much more widely known than the body double/DNA explanation and more reasonable, given the widely known suspect nature of DNA, which is code for "Science", it being a fact that Science is a liberal plot to cede control of the United States of Jesus (USofJ) over to The Dark Lord, who has already prepared a week-long, fiery inauguration saturnalia at which our beloved country will be renamed, "the American States of Satan (ASofS)".

Whether we like it or not.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
56. Seems to be perfectly normal behavior for Teabaggers to not accept the results of an election under
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jun 2014

any circumstances.... And that's that!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
58. 5% - 3,442 Republicans - voted for this loon
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jun 2014
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2014/by_state/OK_US_House_0624.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

He was a loon before losing - his webpage: http://www.timothyraymurray.com/Home_Page.html

I will NEVER use Artificial Intelligence look alike to voice what

The Representative’s Office is doing nor own a robot look alike.

VA_Jill

(9,962 posts)
59. SMDH
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jun 2014

Okies are weird. I mean, look at their senators….

I once said to a Texan friend that Oklahoma sucks. Her reply was, "Yeah, it does, but it keeps Kansas from smashing into us."

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
68. I'm definitely voting for Not Quite Right after looking at his homepage.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

[link: http://www.timothyraymurray.com|

As your Ambassador, Hon. Timothy Ray Murray, for The People of The United States, I have:
* Requested and obtained in 2013, Protection from partial or whole life placement on Starship without the knowledge and or will of any person(s) on Earth or in Space, and the storage of partial human size life on Earth or in this Solar system. This matter is sealed with The People, The U.S. President, and The U.S. Supreme Court.


Requested and obtained removal, from humans, of an illegal
de-human chip from persons abroad and in armed forces use. Helped block the 7th day Legislation in the ‘70’s that would put the 666 de-human chip in every person on earth. In prevention of the fore-mentioned, it was sealed with The People, The U.S. President, and The U.S. Supreme Court at that time and since that time.


While I wouldn't want to actually diagnose the guy, as I haven't met him or done more than read his webpage and a few news articles about him, I would definitely be comfortable saying Something Is Not Quite Right. If he was previously successful and relatively coherent, perhaps early onset dementia of some kind?


Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
67. This is a very sad and troubled man.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jun 2014

His campaign web site is very revealing. http://www.timothyraymurray.com/

He doesn't seem particularly 'gifted' in the qualifications department:

"....career has been in Pharmacy Chains, as Corporate Store Director,
worked in Sales,
worked for the United States Postal Service, as a Rural Carrier,
was Awarded Honor status by U.S. Presidents Nixon, Ford, and others,
was Youth Diplomat for U.S. Mission for The United Nations, 1978,
was awarded United Nations Humanitarian Expert status as Diplomat,
was Assistant to an Oklahoma City Councilman in 2004-05
and is again a Candidate for U.S. House for Oklahoma’s 3rd District, 2014."



He gives himself the title "Hon." and calls himself Ambassador, evidently based on his stint as a Youth Diplomat back in the 70's, but he promises that he's human.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
69. He ran for the same seat as a Democrat in 2012
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jun 2014

...and got 20% of the vote.

I'm thinking he's had a brain injury. Stroke maybe? Or some kind of early onset dementia? Because his rational has clearly left the building...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
84. Or something?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:31 PM
Jun 2014

Dear goodness, I know politics get crazy, but this crazy? Man, this is epic lunacy right here. "I oppose because my opponent is dead." The only person I can think of that could have used that defense was Clinton against Dole, and that was mostly because Dole was dead inside. Maybe Obama could have used that argument against Romney too - "He's a body double, because he hasn't been anything but a puppet for 40 years, and for 20 of those he's had no brain activity."

Though neither of them would have been crass enough to come right out and say it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. A good comment from the Huff po site
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:14 PM
Jun 2014
Robert Jensen · Top Commenter
He might be a body double. The real Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK) was in Congress during the Bush Administration and voted for two tax cuts for the wealthy (unpaid for), two wars (unpaid for), a drug prescription plan for seniors (unpaid for), a tripling of the Defense budget (unpaid for), tax subsidies for Oklahoma's energy companies (unpaid for). The Frank Lucas body double ran on a campaign violently objecting to the trillion dollar budget deficits that the dead Frank Lucas voted for.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
75. Okay, I though the whole "World Cup is un-American" nonsense
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jun 2014

was, well, nonsense, but this didn't just take the cake, it took the whole damn bakery.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
79. To quote Will Smith in "Men In Black":
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jun 2014

"This ranks about a 9 out of 10 on my weird shit-o-meter."

avebury

(10,952 posts)
80. Only in Oklahoma!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jun 2014

Sigh



I am always saying that to run for office in Oklahoma you have to be bat sh*t crazy. I believe that my point has been made.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
81. More batshit crazy from his website
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jun 2014

I am also a owner of oil, gases, and minerals rights of other Oklahoma land. Like the Senator from Kentucky, I own oil, gases and mineral rights along with others that cover most of The State of Oklahoma. The purpose of this ownership is for The People of The United States. The purchase was made with funds of The George Washington family of which I am a direct descendent. I am not of knowledge of all of the former President's family directions with his assets, however I will justly try to follow his directions of just and lawful nature for The People of The United States and of myself. I will never turn over Management of these resource assets to solely to The U.S. President, or legislative action
The Senator announced out his ownership in the 2012 election because of miss Representation of U.S. Office holders in his State. It has now been discovered miss Representation of U.S. Office holders has long existed in Oklahoma using this fact about Oklahoma oil and minerals being owned by The People and other unjust excuses. This miss-Representation includes Oklahoma’s 3rd District and other Oklahoma Districts. Today is the day to correctly follow The People's voice.

We ask the few Members of Congress blocking The People’s correct vote to uphold The United States Constitution and seat the justly elected Persons. This matter is their duty.

Despite what President Obama said on television about slapping anyone that votes for Oil barons, I am sure that will not happen for voting for Timothy Ray Murray. (The President was joking. He knows that is illegal, and that no one should ever do that.)

.............insanity!

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