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Humid on the level of 90%+, temperatures 90+, why in the name of all that is holy did I not grow up in the north? I'll take snow and bathe in it about right now. It was like a tropical vacation for me to travel up North to Iowa, Illinois and Michigan in January. I had to put a coat on!
William769
(55,145 posts)Mississippi Coast.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)William769
(55,145 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)The heat is downright evil, and the humidity is the flames that flies from its mouth.
William769
(55,145 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)OMG. They haven't been this bad in MANY years. Good Lord.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)June is the hottest month here in NM. July and August typically see a lot of thunderstorms, and if a storm doesn't hit us, the outflow winds will when it dissipates at dusk.
That was something I didn't know when I moved here. Now I do and I look out the window at the clouds near sunset to see which windows to open the widest.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)we get no relief until around mid September, but mid October is better.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)our 12% humidity air is also stinking of wood smoke from a fire somewhere.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)bugs you can't walk outside without need a blood transfusion ten minutes later.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)You can't walk outside without passing out, even if you are a runner. Well, it's even worse for runners because we would die ten feet from where we laced our shoes.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)
In Seattle?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)in February because of the wind, snow and general cold as fuckness.
Oh, you meant Seattle. Holy shit, how did that happen? I thought it was pretty mild up there?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Loading ice cream into a walk in freezer on the air base I was stationed at.
It was almost worth it when I reported to sick bay with weather in the 80s.
But, a lesson: Frostbite is verrrrrry painful when it starts to thaw.
pleinair
(171 posts)very nice light, beautiful scenery
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Beautiful beach day.
We do lack rain though but along the coast is nice.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)I'm on "staycation" this week and it's been a relaxing and rewarding 10 days of resting and getting much needed exterior house maintenance and yard work done....on my schedule. It's also been in the low 90's with dew-points at 68-69 or so, and so through it all I feel like I'm wearing the air as if encased in a skin of hot wax. Being proud of getting stuff done is ironically less of a reward than a nice shower and staying in the A/C to lounge about afterwords.
Even in small doses it sucks:
Not much to have to do today in the way of chores...just a few easy tasks. Among them, I went to clean out the ashes from my BBQ grill, dump them, give the grill a few strokes with a wire brush, put the fitted cover on. 10 minutes. The sweat was pouring off my face so rapidly I could hear the drops pitter-pattering on the patio, table and grill lid. I swear, like 96.8 percent of the sweat glands in my body are located between my forehead and upper lip.
Last Saturday. About 8:45 PM I'm all cool and relaxed inside after a nice dinner and I think to myself, "yeah it's gotta be cooler out now, I think I'm gonna enjoy a nice cold beer on the patio and watch the sun set and see all the fireflies blink about in the mellow evening sky on the longest day of the year". I lasted till about 9-9:05 PM as even the pleasant sights couldn't make me forget how uncomfortable I was and I'm like, "the hell with this, it's inside with the A/C for me".
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)a bunch of weight exercising. Just cut the grass and feel like I dropped 10 pounds, about what my sweaty clothes gained in weight. I love fall and winter. Need to move to San Francisco for year round comfort.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)I lose ( what feels like ) 10 pounds water, gain in sweaty clothes, and an additional 5 or 10 pounds in an overall level of perceived grunginess seemingly coating me.
I come out of a cool shower in the A/C and it feels better than if somebody handed me a thousand dollars.
Yes, I really hate heat that much.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I can take the heat and humidity here. I grew up in South Florida and there is nothing worse than the humidity there. But at least there were sea breezes to help cool the heat. Here in Georgia, there are no breezes in the summer, only dead still heat. But at least we have seasons and know that fall is just around the corner and not just perpetual summer year 'round.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)humidity is high.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)My blood is too thin for cold weather. Now granted, you wont find me working int he yard when it is hot as balls out, but I'll take hot over cold any day.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I detest heat.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Go back inside and crank that sucker up so the temperature will go down.
Of course the temperature outside will go up. That's how balance works.
I see a great future in the AC market.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)Got the doors and windows open but had to put on a sweater. Very pleasant.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)that's one thing I don't miss at all about living in the Southern US (or, one of many), the ungodly heat and humidity. It's been borderline warmish here for the past few weeks, but the highest temps I've seen have been around 75F or so. Which is definitely better than 90-95F.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)55F, I knew it well ...
former9thward
(31,981 posts)No snow in the winter and very little humidity (8%) in the summer.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but I could put up with none of it if I didn't have the dang humidity!
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)and high humidity are very common in the summer.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and it was cold and windy, but I embraced it because I was coming from hot as hell. Please don't tell me it's as bad as the Gulf Coast in the summer.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)You couldn't pay me to be there in the summer. I was just pointing out that southern Michigan gets very hot and humid in most summers and I think some think it's far enough north that the summers are mild,but usually the aren't very mild at all.We usually have long periods of high heat and humidity.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)My God. You can put on more clothes but you can't take more off.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)other than air conditioning,there is no hiding from it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)blood sucking bugs.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)In fact, they tend to be more aggressive the farther north you go because of shorter seasons.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and I don't care where you are . I'm not going to debate which one is better or worse - they freaking suck!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I've had some seriously miserable hikes getting attacked by those little fuckers.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Mosquito.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's the ones with the black and white stripe pattern. Little invasive buggers got accidentally introduced and are impossible to eradicate. They can breed in a mere teaspoon of water.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and are getting BIGGER in our ideal environment and breed more quickly. Welcome to a horde of huge mosquitoes that have hit the invasive species lottery.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Though it is really creepy to be camping and suddenly hear the buzzing ramp up just as the sun starts to set. Darkness falls, and suffering is just beginning...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but thankfully, few Aedes aegypti - those are diurnal. Tiger Mosquitoes are crepuscular, mostly, like many of the other species.
Please God don't let too many of the egyptian ones invade us. I know we have some, but not nearly to the degree of other species.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I live 10 miles from the town it's named after. The word they use is "hyperepidemic" for the region.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)The weather is beautiful but if it makes you feel any better,the U.P. is notorious for it's black flies,they literally take small chunks of skin off when they bite.You look down at your legs and arms and see little droplets of blood where they've bitten.They aren't here yet,but they're coming.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)because bugs that bite and draw blood suck no matter what part of the country you are in!
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Thankfully we have rain coming, but that will make the bugs worse. LOL.
LeftInTX
(25,258 posts)Hot and humid with dewpoints in the 70's.
I decided to get brave and go walking outside. It was hot. It was awful, but I braved it. I walked 4 miles in the heat!! Yeah!!! I did it!!!
Now I've got a &*^*! ingrown toenail! My foot got too swollen from the heat and humidity causing the toenail to dig into the skin.
I make the same route all winter with no problems.
I hate summer cabin fever.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)At times like these, I completely envy our northern and western neighbors!
Rex
(65,616 posts)style your hair OR stay dry. Like breathing in pea soup.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We have bugs so bad this year, though, the mosquitoes might as well be classified as birds of prey.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And they HURT when they bite you! Never had that happen before until just a few years ago!
THANKS EVE!
That's what we are going through, too.
WTF caused these big blood sucking bugs, and in such HUGE amounts and sizes? WTF? I expect them to fly off with a kitten any day now!
Rex
(65,616 posts)WTFF?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)has caused the insect invasion, but we've been inundated by the damn crazy ants, and now, it's mosquitoes that are nearly the size of your damn hand, and like you say, they look weird as though eating your ass up isn't bad enough. They do hurt, I was out watering the garden and it felt like I got stabbed. They don't even give you the anesthetic that most biting bugs do so they can keep sucking from you, they just go on and bite you and freaking dare you to swat at them.
Thirties Child
(543 posts)I remember summer with 99 temperature, 99 humidity. Couldn't do it now, in our late 70s, still wonder how we managed it then. Dallas has always seemed hotter to me, with 110 temps and high humidity.
It seems to me that it got hotter in, and has been hotter since, 1980. At least in Atlanta.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)lakes have nearly been replenished. To merely say that they needed it would be a gross understatement. So far, El Nino or La Nina (whichever it is) and climate change have been very good to Texas, at least my part of it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)if so, you really did need it there!
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)the radio yesterday correctly, it rose 7 feet. Lake Granbury rose 4 feet. Here's a bit about it:
http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2014/jun/27/a1_droughtmap_062714_243007/?news
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Pretty country, and very nice people in that area. I'm glad you are getting some rain .
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)and hold my head under the hose every 15 minutes.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)When it gets tolerable, you need to take a bath in OFF! to go outside here!
LeftInTX
(25,258 posts)The huge American cockroach that moves at the speed of light is the worst thing in the world. Good gawd, I never saw one till I moved to Texas. Literally millions of them live in the bark of a single oak or palm.
I've even had them crawl up my leg after watering my lawn.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)One of my favorite parts of living in Conn. versus the Southeast.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)Been back East several times in summer. Michigan/Illinois and 90° and 90% humidity made me miss Az in summer. There is no good time of year there. Snowy cold winter and hot humid summer. Best of luck.
100F / 12% humidity here.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)lakes and thousands of miles of coastline for those hot summer days too.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)Sorry, that's just how it is for me.
I'll take hot and humid any day over brown and dry or cold (or even barely warmish) and gray.
It keeps the plants green and makes swimming super enjoyable. I love my Florida summers!
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)I love Rhinelander.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)The humidity % drops steeply as the day heats up. The 100% humidity point is the dew point, which rarely goes into the 80s in the USA. Dewpoints in the 90s are potentially fatal with a dewpoint of 95 or higher being unsurvivable without escape. No place on earth is that hot and humid - yet.
Dew point Human perception[1] Relative humidity at 32 °C (90 °F)
Over 80 °F Severely high. Even deadly for asthma related illnesses 65% and higher
7580 °F Extremely uncomfortable, fairly oppressive 62%
7074 °F Very humid, quite uncomfortable 5260%
6569 °F Somewhat uncomfortable for most people at upper edge 4452%
6064 °F OK for most, but all perceive the humidity at upper edge 3746%
5559 °F Comfortable 3841%
5054 °F Very comfortable 3137%
Under 50 °F A bit dry for some 30%
Aerows
(39,961 posts)bugs are everywhere, it sucks. If I misread the weather reports, I didn't misread the misery index.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I'm a science guy, so it annoys me. The dew points right now are in the low - mid 70s for the gulf coast, so it's "Very humid, quite uncomfortable".
I actually left the Southeast because I couldn't stand the heat. Give me 0°F and a strong breeze any day!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I get what you are saying. I was imprecise.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)so it was 88F and 63% humidity in Biloxi MS today. Very hot and very humid. A heat index of 97 confirms that.
I think folks say 90% humidity because 63% humidity doesn't sound that high.
My other theory is that in the morning when people see the weather on tv, for example, the temperature might have been 80F around 9am, at that point, humidity was around 90%, so they hear the conditions on the radio, tv, "currently in Biloxi, it's 80 degrees and 90% humidity...". Later on they hear the high temperature was 88 and they assume that the humidity was the same as in the early morning --but it's not. As you pointed out, it drops, in fact, by roughly half for each 20 degree increase in temperature.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)While I majored in mechanical engineering, I also took classes on such things as history, water and sanitation in developing countries, and yes, meteorology.
The meteorology class was awesome. We had to create weather maps and makes predictions on the weather as a final project.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Some years ago I had a quite heated ( no pun intended ) argument with this never gives and inch, know-it-all type. I tried explaining the dewpoint concept and how much more of accurate way it is of measuring how humid it feels instead of relative humidity. I kept calling it junk science, on par with heat indexes and wind chills designed to dramatize the numbers. That just isn't so. Even the ATIS weather statements use dewpoint rather than relative humidity. He would just not back down and he actually started shouting.
I guess it wasn't the heat, it was the humidity.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It doesn't change with temperature like relative humidity, and provides a very subjective scale on which to measure human misery.
Right now the Temperature is 61.2°F with a relative humidity of 84%. The dew point is 56°F, which is considered comfortable. And it is. Which is good because I have no AC...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)When you say - yet -, do you mean it could happen due to climate change?
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Any additional vapor will form condensation and fall as rain. The dew point is the coolest a a night can fall in temp because once the 100% saturation point is reached, any added water will condense and release heat (latent heat of condensation) as it changes from a gas into a liquid. Just like you have to add heat to make liquid water change to a gas, gaseous water must lose heat to form a liquid. That extra heat will prevent the night from falling any colder. The only thing that reduces the dew point is condensation or a weather front sweeps in drier air.
As for drowning, water vapor is a gas and is breathed just like Nitrogen, which makes up 78% of the atmosphere. Water vapor ranges from 0.001%5% of the atmosphere makeup. Funny enough, while we often say that the air feel heavy when it is humid, the atmosphere is actually less dense. Water vapor is lighter than O2 or N2. That is the main reason that baseballs travel farther on a humid day.
Some predictions for climate change model that we could have heat waves that have dew points of 90-95°F in the future. Such a day would rise to 105-110° during the day and drop no cooler than 90-95°F at night. Anyone not in AC could die.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I had no idea how it worked!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)90 degrees and 90 percent relative humidity is not something one can experience in the ambient environment in the United States.
Today, for example, a humid day with a very high heat index there in coastal Mississippi:
Biloxi had a high of 88F and at that point, the relative humidity was 63%.
The dew point is quite high, so when the temperature decreases to the upper 70's at that point, the humidity will be near 90% or so, but not until it cools down that much.
http://classic.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBIX/2014/6/27/DailyHistory.html
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)MFM008
(19,805 posts)guess what we got. anyone?
Rain and 57. Thats what we have 80% of the year....
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Howler
(4,225 posts)And extremely humid here in Dayton Ohio today too!
postulater
(5,075 posts)15degrees cooler than where I work five miles inland.
I figure it might be another 3 weeks before we take the cover off the air conditioner.