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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:36 PM Jun 2014

Walking outside into a heat stroke

Humid on the level of 90%+, temperatures 90+, why in the name of all that is holy did I not grow up in the north? I'll take snow and bathe in it about right now. It was like a tropical vacation for me to travel up North to Iowa, Illinois and Michigan in January. I had to put a coat on!

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Walking outside into a heat stroke (Original Post) Aerows Jun 2014 OP
I take it you are in Florida? William769 Jun 2014 #1
Worse Aerows Jun 2014 #3
Yuck. William769 Jun 2014 #5
Yep. It's hot and humid as being in a dryer on tumble. n/t Aerows Jun 2014 #6
Thats how I feel right now in S.W. Florida. William769 Jun 2014 #8
Yep, you folks aren't doing any better than we are Aerows Jun 2014 #9
You are preaching to the choir! William769 Jun 2014 #10
The bugs this years Aerows Jun 2014 #37
Ewwwww. It doesn't get better there until October. Warpy Jun 2014 #15
June is the best month of summer, here Aerows Jun 2014 #18
If it makes you feel any better Warpy Jun 2014 #28
It doesn't make me feel better because there are so many Aerows Jun 2014 #36
68 with light rain here in SW Washington. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #2
I envy you Aerows Jun 2014 #4
Did I ever mention that I got hyporthermia in Washington?...... In July? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2014 #33
I nearly got hypothermia in DC Aerows Jun 2014 #35
I got frostbite in Santa Ana, Ca in May. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #76
My compliments on the photo pleinair Jun 2014 #82
Santa Barbara 73 and sunny upaloopa Jun 2014 #7
Yeah what a drag. I can't be outside for 10 minutes without sweating like a pig Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #11
Head sweater in Georgia. The only thing good about summer is I can lose Hoyt Jun 2014 #25
Good observation Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #40
I am in Georgia also. RebelOne Jun 2014 #85
Yep, and actually we've had relatively mild temps so far. But, I can sweat st 75 if Hoyt Jun 2014 #92
I'll take 95 degrees with 90% humidity over 32 any day NightWatcher Jun 2014 #12
We can easily change "bloods" Aerows Jun 2014 #16
Good old air conditioning RobertEarl Jun 2014 #13
70 and cloudy Montana sorefeet Jun 2014 #14
That's just rubbing it in n/t Aerows Jun 2014 #17
55F here at the moment, high today was 62 Spider Jerusalem Jun 2014 #19
Now that was just mean :( Aerows Jun 2014 #20
You need to go to the Southwest. former9thward Jun 2014 #21
I actually like snow Aerows Jun 2014 #22
Unless you're in northern Michigan,the high temps sufrommich Jun 2014 #23
I went there in January Aerows Jun 2014 #24
I've spent a couple of winters on the Gulf Coast. sufrommich Jun 2014 #27
I'll honestly take your winters, over our summers Aerows Jun 2014 #30
I agree.Humidity is incredibly miserable and sufrommich Jun 2014 #32
One other word to sum up our summers = bugs Aerows Jun 2014 #48
They are also bad up north. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #54
Bugs that bite plain suck Aerows Jun 2014 #60
The black flies of New England are the worst. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #63
I can't say I've hiked in New England. I'm only familiar with the state bird Aerows Jun 2014 #65
Do you have a high population of Asian Tiger mosquito? NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #68
They are indeed striped Aerows Jun 2014 #70
Yeah, day biters unlike the native ones. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #72
We have SWARMS of mosquitoes, Tigers and others Aerows Jun 2014 #74
At least you don't have to worry about Lyme disease. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #77
I'm up in the U.P. of Michigan right now. sufrommich Jun 2014 #57
I can't debate which bug is better or worse, my friend, Aerows Jun 2014 #59
90° here with 53% humidity=98° HI hobbit709 Jun 2014 #26
Just as bad - ours is 98 HI, too Aerows Jun 2014 #34
I'm in San Antonio LeftInTX Jun 2014 #29
Our humidity is to the point where you think you are breathing soup, and it is hot as hell. Aerows Jun 2014 #31
I hear that! I grew up mostly in Houston...where it is a waste of time trying to Rex Jun 2014 #38
I lived in Houston - it's the same Aerows Jun 2014 #45
Same here! The mosquitoes here are HUGE and look like stealth bombers! Rex Jun 2014 #47
Yep! Aerows Jun 2014 #49
IKR!? I've never seen them that size or composition...they look just like freakin stealth planes! Rex Jun 2014 #52
I don't know what in the HELL Aerows Jun 2014 #56
When we were early 20s, we lived in New Orleans without air conditioning Thirties Child Jun 2014 #39
Summer has somehow eluded us here in Texas. Indeed, many of our area ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #41
Must be North Texas Aerows Jun 2014 #46
Oh, yes, we did. My favorite lake is Whitney. If I'm recalling what I heard on ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #55
Glad to hear it! Aerows Jun 2014 #62
gotten hot and humid here in eastern NY> have to use a big umbrella to garden under KittyWampus Jun 2014 #42
Are the bugs there as bad as they are here? Aerows Jun 2014 #43
Wisconsin has really bad mosquitos, but no ROACHES LeftInTX Jun 2014 #67
I do NOT miss the Palmetto Bugs NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #90
I don't know how people do it... deathrind Jun 2014 #44
Fall and Spring are beautiful in Michigan.We have thousands of sufrommich Jun 2014 #50
That's my kind of weather. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #51
Vacation in Rhinelander AngryAmish Jun 2014 #53
84 and partly cloudy in Illinois. I'd gladly trade places with you--in the winter. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #58
If it was 90% humidity and 90°F, the Heat index would be 122°F. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #61
It's hot, it's humid Aerows Jun 2014 #64
Oh, I understand. I just hate the 90% humid thing I often hear. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #66
A light breeze. Any breeze! :D Aerows Jun 2014 #69
me too, me too CreekDog Jun 2014 #78
We don't often teach this stuff in school. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #79
Irritates me as well. The ignorance, that is Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #86
I personally prefer dewpoint. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #89
bless you CreekDog Jun 2014 #75
Wouldn't a Dewpoint of 100 be like trying to breath underwater? Rex Jun 2014 #83
No, 100% humididty means the air is saturated with as much water vapor (a gas) as it can hold. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #84
Thanks that was very informative! Rex Jun 2014 #91
Correction: though it's very humid there, it's not 90F and 90% humidity CreekDog Jun 2014 #71
See post above yours. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #73
here in WA MFM008 Jun 2014 #80
Just avoid the raccoons with heatstroke, Aerows....you'll be fine!!!! msanthrope Jun 2014 #81
it was 91 degrees Howler Jun 2014 #87
We're a block from Lake Michigan in Milwaukee. postulater Jun 2014 #88
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Yep, you folks aren't doing any better than we are
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:49 PM
Jun 2014

The heat is downright evil, and the humidity is the flames that flies from its mouth.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
15. Ewwwww. It doesn't get better there until October.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

June is the hottest month here in NM. July and August typically see a lot of thunderstorms, and if a storm doesn't hit us, the outflow winds will when it dissipates at dusk.

That was something I didn't know when I moved here. Now I do and I look out the window at the clouds near sunset to see which windows to open the widest.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. June is the best month of summer, here
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:02 PM
Jun 2014

we get no relief until around mid September, but mid October is better.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
28. If it makes you feel any better
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jun 2014

our 12% humidity air is also stinking of wood smoke from a fire somewhere.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
36. It doesn't make me feel better because there are so many
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jun 2014

bugs you can't walk outside without need a blood transfusion ten minutes later.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. I envy you
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jun 2014

You can't walk outside without passing out, even if you are a runner. Well, it's even worse for runners because we would die ten feet from where we laced our shoes.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
33. Did I ever mention that I got hyporthermia in Washington?...... In July?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

In Seattle?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
35. I nearly got hypothermia in DC
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jun 2014

in February because of the wind, snow and general cold as fuckness.

Oh, you meant Seattle. Holy shit, how did that happen? I thought it was pretty mild up there?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
76. I got frostbite in Santa Ana, Ca in May.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jun 2014

Loading ice cream into a walk in freezer on the air base I was stationed at.

It was almost worth it when I reported to sick bay with weather in the 80s.

But, a lesson: Frostbite is verrrrrry painful when it starts to thaw.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
11. Yeah what a drag. I can't be outside for 10 minutes without sweating like a pig
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jun 2014

I'm on "staycation" this week and it's been a relaxing and rewarding 10 days of resting and getting much needed exterior house maintenance and yard work done....on my schedule. It's also been in the low 90's with dew-points at 68-69 or so, and so through it all I feel like I'm wearing the air as if encased in a skin of hot wax. Being proud of getting stuff done is ironically less of a reward than a nice shower and staying in the A/C to lounge about afterwords.

Even in small doses it sucks:

Not much to have to do today in the way of chores...just a few easy tasks. Among them, I went to clean out the ashes from my BBQ grill, dump them, give the grill a few strokes with a wire brush, put the fitted cover on. 10 minutes. The sweat was pouring off my face so rapidly I could hear the drops pitter-pattering on the patio, table and grill lid. I swear, like 96.8 percent of the sweat glands in my body are located between my forehead and upper lip.

Last Saturday. About 8:45 PM I'm all cool and relaxed inside after a nice dinner and I think to myself, "yeah it's gotta be cooler out now, I think I'm gonna enjoy a nice cold beer on the patio and watch the sun set and see all the fireflies blink about in the mellow evening sky on the longest day of the year". I lasted till about 9-9:05 PM as even the pleasant sights couldn't make me forget how uncomfortable I was and I'm like, "the hell with this, it's inside with the A/C for me".

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. Head sweater in Georgia. The only thing good about summer is I can lose
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jun 2014

a bunch of weight exercising. Just cut the grass and feel like I dropped 10 pounds, about what my sweaty clothes gained in weight. I love fall and winter. Need to move to San Francisco for year round comfort.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
40. Good observation
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jun 2014

I lose ( what feels like ) 10 pounds water, gain in sweaty clothes, and an additional 5 or 10 pounds in an overall level of perceived grunginess seemingly coating me.

I come out of a cool shower in the A/C and it feels better than if somebody handed me a thousand dollars.

Yes, I really hate heat that much.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
85. I am in Georgia also.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jun 2014

I can take the heat and humidity here. I grew up in South Florida and there is nothing worse than the humidity there. But at least there were sea breezes to help cool the heat. Here in Georgia, there are no breezes in the summer, only dead still heat. But at least we have seasons and know that fall is just around the corner and not just perpetual summer year 'round.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
92. Yep, and actually we've had relatively mild temps so far. But, I can sweat st 75 if
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jun 2014

humidity is high.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. I'll take 95 degrees with 90% humidity over 32 any day
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jun 2014

My blood is too thin for cold weather. Now granted, you wont find me working int he yard when it is hot as balls out, but I'll take hot over cold any day.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Good old air conditioning
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jun 2014

Go back inside and crank that sucker up so the temperature will go down.

Of course the temperature outside will go up. That's how balance works.

I see a great future in the AC market.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. 55F here at the moment, high today was 62
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:03 PM
Jun 2014

that's one thing I don't miss at all about living in the Southern US (or, one of many), the ungodly heat and humidity. It's been borderline warmish here for the past few weeks, but the highest temps I've seen have been around 75F or so. Which is definitely better than 90-95F.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. I went there in January
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jun 2014

and it was cold and windy, but I embraced it because I was coming from hot as hell. Please don't tell me it's as bad as the Gulf Coast in the summer.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
27. I've spent a couple of winters on the Gulf Coast.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jun 2014

You couldn't pay me to be there in the summer. I was just pointing out that southern Michigan gets very hot and humid in most summers and I think some think it's far enough north that the summers are mild,but usually the aren't very mild at all.We usually have long periods of high heat and humidity.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. I'll honestly take your winters, over our summers
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jun 2014

My God. You can put on more clothes but you can't take more off.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
32. I agree.Humidity is incredibly miserable and
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jun 2014

other than air conditioning,there is no hiding from it.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
54. They are also bad up north.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jun 2014

In fact, they tend to be more aggressive the farther north you go because of shorter seasons.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
60. Bugs that bite plain suck
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jun 2014

and I don't care where you are . I'm not going to debate which one is better or worse - they freaking suck!

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
63. The black flies of New England are the worst.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jun 2014

I've had some seriously miserable hikes getting attacked by those little fuckers.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
68. Do you have a high population of Asian Tiger mosquito?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jun 2014

It's the ones with the black and white stripe pattern. Little invasive buggers got accidentally introduced and are impossible to eradicate. They can breed in a mere teaspoon of water.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
70. They are indeed striped
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jun 2014

and are getting BIGGER in our ideal environment and breed more quickly. Welcome to a horde of huge mosquitoes that have hit the invasive species lottery.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
72. Yeah, day biters unlike the native ones.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jun 2014

Though it is really creepy to be camping and suddenly hear the buzzing ramp up just as the sun starts to set. Darkness falls, and suffering is just beginning...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
74. We have SWARMS of mosquitoes, Tigers and others
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jun 2014

but thankfully, few Aedes aegypti - those are diurnal. Tiger Mosquitoes are crepuscular, mostly, like many of the other species.

Please God don't let too many of the egyptian ones invade us. I know we have some, but not nearly to the degree of other species.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
77. At least you don't have to worry about Lyme disease.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jun 2014

I live 10 miles from the town it's named after. The word they use is "hyperepidemic" for the region.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
57. I'm up in the U.P. of Michigan right now.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jun 2014

The weather is beautiful but if it makes you feel any better,the U.P. is notorious for it's black flies,they literally take small chunks of skin off when they bite.You look down at your legs and arms and see little droplets of blood where they've bitten.They aren't here yet,but they're coming.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
59. I can't debate which bug is better or worse, my friend,
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:12 PM
Jun 2014

because bugs that bite and draw blood suck no matter what part of the country you are in!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. Just as bad - ours is 98 HI, too
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jun 2014

Thankfully we have rain coming, but that will make the bugs worse. LOL.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
29. I'm in San Antonio
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jun 2014

Hot and humid with dewpoints in the 70's.

I decided to get brave and go walking outside. It was hot. It was awful, but I braved it. I walked 4 miles in the heat!! Yeah!!! I did it!!!

Now I've got a &*^*! ingrown toenail! My foot got too swollen from the heat and humidity causing the toenail to dig into the skin.

I make the same route all winter with no problems.

I hate summer cabin fever.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Our humidity is to the point where you think you are breathing soup, and it is hot as hell.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

At times like these, I completely envy our northern and western neighbors!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. I hear that! I grew up mostly in Houston...where it is a waste of time trying to
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jun 2014

style your hair OR stay dry. Like breathing in pea soup.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
45. I lived in Houston - it's the same
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jun 2014

We have bugs so bad this year, though, the mosquitoes might as well be classified as birds of prey.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
47. Same here! The mosquitoes here are HUGE and look like stealth bombers!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jun 2014

And they HURT when they bite you! Never had that happen before until just a few years ago!

THANKS EVE!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
49. Yep!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:59 PM
Jun 2014

That's what we are going through, too.

WTF caused these big blood sucking bugs, and in such HUGE amounts and sizes? WTF? I expect them to fly off with a kitten any day now!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
52. IKR!? I've never seen them that size or composition...they look just like freakin stealth planes!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

WTFF?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
56. I don't know what in the HELL
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jun 2014

has caused the insect invasion, but we've been inundated by the damn crazy ants, and now, it's mosquitoes that are nearly the size of your damn hand, and like you say, they look weird as though eating your ass up isn't bad enough. They do hurt, I was out watering the garden and it felt like I got stabbed. They don't even give you the anesthetic that most biting bugs do so they can keep sucking from you, they just go on and bite you and freaking dare you to swat at them.

Thirties Child

(543 posts)
39. When we were early 20s, we lived in New Orleans without air conditioning
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jun 2014

I remember summer with 99 temperature, 99 humidity. Couldn't do it now, in our late 70s, still wonder how we managed it then. Dallas has always seemed hotter to me, with 110 temps and high humidity.

It seems to me that it got hotter in, and has been hotter since, 1980. At least in Atlanta.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
41. Summer has somehow eluded us here in Texas. Indeed, many of our area
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jun 2014

lakes have nearly been replenished. To merely say that they needed it would be a gross understatement. So far, El Nino or La Nina (whichever it is) and climate change have been very good to Texas, at least my part of it.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
55. Oh, yes, we did. My favorite lake is Whitney. If I'm recalling what I heard on
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jun 2014

the radio yesterday correctly, it rose 7 feet. Lake Granbury rose 4 feet. Here's a bit about it:

http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2014/jun/27/a1_droughtmap_062714_243007/?news

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
62. Glad to hear it!
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jun 2014

Pretty country, and very nice people in that area. I'm glad you are getting some rain .

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
42. gotten hot and humid here in eastern NY> have to use a big umbrella to garden under
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jun 2014

and hold my head under the hose every 15 minutes.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. Are the bugs there as bad as they are here?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jun 2014

When it gets tolerable, you need to take a bath in OFF! to go outside here!

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
67. Wisconsin has really bad mosquitos, but no ROACHES
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:24 PM
Jun 2014

The huge American cockroach that moves at the speed of light is the worst thing in the world. Good gawd, I never saw one till I moved to Texas. Literally millions of them live in the bark of a single oak or palm.

I've even had them crawl up my leg after watering my lawn.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
44. I don't know how people do it...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jun 2014

Been back East several times in summer. Michigan/Illinois and 90° and 90% humidity made me miss Az in summer. There is no good time of year there. Snowy cold winter and hot humid summer. Best of luck.

100F / 12% humidity here.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
50. Fall and Spring are beautiful in Michigan.We have thousands of
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jun 2014

lakes and thousands of miles of coastline for those hot summer days too.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
51. That's my kind of weather.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

Sorry, that's just how it is for me.

I'll take hot and humid any day over brown and dry or cold (or even barely warmish) and gray.

It keeps the plants green and makes swimming super enjoyable. I love my Florida summers!

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
61. If it was 90% humidity and 90°F, the Heat index would be 122°F.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jun 2014

The humidity % drops steeply as the day heats up. The 100% humidity point is the dew point, which rarely goes into the 80s in the USA. Dewpoints in the 90s are potentially fatal with a dewpoint of 95 or higher being unsurvivable without escape. No place on earth is that hot and humid - yet.

Dew point Human perception[1] Relative humidity at 32 °C (90 °F)
Over 80 °F Severely high. Even deadly for asthma related illnesses 65% and higher
75–80 °F Extremely uncomfortable, fairly oppressive 62%
70–74 °F Very humid, quite uncomfortable 52–60%
65–69 °F Somewhat uncomfortable for most people at upper edge 44–52%
60–64 °F OK for most, but all perceive the humidity at upper edge 37–46%
55–59 °F Comfortable 38–41%
50–54 °F Very comfortable 31–37%
Under 50 °F A bit dry for some 30%

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
64. It's hot, it's humid
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jun 2014

bugs are everywhere, it sucks. If I misread the weather reports, I didn't misread the misery index.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
66. Oh, I understand. I just hate the 90% humid thing I often hear.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jun 2014

I'm a science guy, so it annoys me. The dew points right now are in the low - mid 70s for the gulf coast, so it's "Very humid, quite uncomfortable".

I actually left the Southeast because I couldn't stand the heat. Give me 0°F and a strong breeze any day!

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
78. me too, me too
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jun 2014

so it was 88F and 63% humidity in Biloxi MS today. Very hot and very humid. A heat index of 97 confirms that.

I think folks say 90% humidity because 63% humidity doesn't sound that high.

My other theory is that in the morning when people see the weather on tv, for example, the temperature might have been 80F around 9am, at that point, humidity was around 90%, so they hear the conditions on the radio, tv, "currently in Biloxi, it's 80 degrees and 90% humidity...". Later on they hear the high temperature was 88 and they assume that the humidity was the same as in the early morning --but it's not. As you pointed out, it drops, in fact, by roughly half for each 20 degree increase in temperature.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
79. We don't often teach this stuff in school.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jun 2014

While I majored in mechanical engineering, I also took classes on such things as history, water and sanitation in developing countries, and yes, meteorology.

The meteorology class was awesome. We had to create weather maps and makes predictions on the weather as a final project.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
86. Irritates me as well. The ignorance, that is
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jun 2014

Some years ago I had a quite heated ( no pun intended ) argument with this never gives and inch, know-it-all type. I tried explaining the dewpoint concept and how much more of accurate way it is of measuring how humid it feels instead of relative humidity. I kept calling it junk science, on par with heat indexes and wind chills designed to dramatize the numbers. That just isn't so. Even the ATIS weather statements use dewpoint rather than relative humidity. He would just not back down and he actually started shouting.

I guess it wasn't the heat, it was the humidity.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
89. I personally prefer dewpoint.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jun 2014

It doesn't change with temperature like relative humidity, and provides a very subjective scale on which to measure human misery.

Right now the Temperature is 61.2°F with a relative humidity of 84%. The dew point is 56°F, which is considered comfortable. And it is. Which is good because I have no AC...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
83. Wouldn't a Dewpoint of 100 be like trying to breath underwater?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jun 2014

When you say - yet -, do you mean it could happen due to climate change?

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
84. No, 100% humididty means the air is saturated with as much water vapor (a gas) as it can hold.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:11 PM
Jun 2014

Any additional vapor will form condensation and fall as rain. The dew point is the coolest a a night can fall in temp because once the 100% saturation point is reached, any added water will condense and release heat (latent heat of condensation) as it changes from a gas into a liquid. Just like you have to add heat to make liquid water change to a gas, gaseous water must lose heat to form a liquid. That extra heat will prevent the night from falling any colder. The only thing that reduces the dew point is condensation or a weather front sweeps in drier air.

As for drowning, water vapor is a gas and is breathed just like Nitrogen, which makes up 78% of the atmosphere. Water vapor ranges from 0.001%–5% of the atmosphere makeup. Funny enough, while we often say that the air feel heavy when it is humid, the atmosphere is actually less dense. Water vapor is lighter than O2 or N2. That is the main reason that baseballs travel farther on a humid day.

Some predictions for climate change model that we could have heat waves that have dew points of 90-95°F in the future. Such a day would rise to 105-110° during the day and drop no cooler than 90-95°F at night. Anyone not in AC could die.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
71. Correction: though it's very humid there, it's not 90F and 90% humidity
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jun 2014

90 degrees and 90 percent relative humidity is not something one can experience in the ambient environment in the United States.

Today, for example, a humid day with a very high heat index there in coastal Mississippi:

Biloxi had a high of 88F and at that point, the relative humidity was 63%.

The dew point is quite high, so when the temperature decreases to the upper 70's at that point, the humidity will be near 90% or so, but not until it cools down that much.

http://classic.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBIX/2014/6/27/DailyHistory.html

postulater

(5,075 posts)
88. We're a block from Lake Michigan in Milwaukee.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jun 2014

15degrees cooler than where I work five miles inland.

I figure it might be another 3 weeks before we take the cover off the air conditioner.

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