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pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:37 PM Jun 2014

This is how Boeing is breaking its unions, bit by bit. And it affects YOU.

The unions have been concentrated in Washington State. They’re starting with breaking the engineering union. They’re “shifting” thousands of engineering jobs from Washington -- all STEM jobs that young people are supposed to aim for -- to “Centers of Excellence” in non-union states. “Shifting” doesn’t mean “transferring.”

“Shifting” means that these union engineers will be invited to reapply for lower-paying jobs in the new centers of excellence – all now non-union jobs. Only a small number will actually be rehired (and given small payments to cover moving expenses.) The rest of the engineers, mostly older and experienced, will simply be laid off.

Think it doesn’t affect you?

40% of the new hires in the “Centers of Excellence” -- who will be designing the planes we will all be flying on -- are expected to be fresh out of school.

But we won’t be any safer on the older planes. None of these new hires will even know how to read the schematics of the ten and twenty year old planes that are still in service, which will inevitably develop problems that require an engineer to solve them.

Bon voyage!

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This is how Boeing is breaking its unions, bit by bit. And it affects YOU. (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2014 OP
We are cascading toward late 19th Century labor practices. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #1
Ah, centers of excellence. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #2
This type of thing has happened in many industries over the past thirty years, hasn't it? abelenkpe Jun 2014 #3
Hi DU, I finally was motivated to make an account. ManOpeace Jun 2014 #7
My Unions have never had any form of 'seniority' plan at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #9
kicking pnwmom Jun 2014 #4
McNerney learned to be an a hole from Jack Diremoon Jun 2014 #5
Yes. This is all about short term profits. The people who dismantled McDonnell Douglas pnwmom Jun 2014 #6
The "Center of Excellance" are gerrymandered districts betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #8
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. We are cascading toward late 19th Century labor practices.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:46 PM
Jun 2014

There is no opposition to this and other human abuses on ANY level, and in any form. We ARE in the corporate-state, and should think and act accordingly.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
2. Ah, centers of excellence.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jun 2014

That's the new term for the commoditization of work that requires thought, and therefore an expensive education and training. It is, as you note, a way of getting around having to actually pay for that expensive education and training.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
3. This type of thing has happened in many industries over the past thirty years, hasn't it?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jun 2014

Eventually someone is going to run on a platform of protecting workers and helping the middle class regain good paying jobs with pensions and job security.

Or form a global workers union that demands fair wages, benefits and job security for every worker, every where.

I remember how it was so important to go into tech and be ready for the jobs of the future...

 

ManOpeace

(6 posts)
7. Hi DU, I finally was motivated to make an account.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 03:39 AM
Jun 2014

"Eventually someone is going to run on a platform of protecting workers and helping the middle class regain good paying jobs with pensions and job security."

The middle class is not something we should strive to preserve or even expand. A just society would be a classless society.

Do you want to fix any of society's structural flaws? Then you must include everyone or your efforts will be wasted.

"Or form a global workers union that demands fair wages, benefits and job security for every worker, every where."

I used to think the same thing until I worked a union job. It is the same bullshit in a different form. A global union could work I'll give you that, but not in the form of any union I've ever come in contact with. I have yet to have learn of a union that treats all members equally (No seniority). Also I've never heard of a union that abandons the easily corrupted representative system in favor for direct democracy.

IMO, when you create circumstances where a person has power, a certain personality type generally strives to fill it. I call them "Professional assholes". Ever wonder why some unions negotiate their ability to strike away? Lets say we do keep the representative system, how come the people who work full time for the union do not get paid the same as the lowest paid union member? Its those types of people hard at work to benefit only themselves.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. My Unions have never had any form of 'seniority' plan at all.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jun 2014

This crap you posted is just anti Union bullshit. Perhaps it is simply based on limited experience and poor education, but this sort of crap has no place in this thread. This is a Pro Union thread in a Pro Union community.

Diremoon

(86 posts)
5. McNerney learned to be an a hole from Jack
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:35 AM
Jun 2014

He was head of GE Aircraft Engines when I worked there. He isn't concerned about the future of Boeing. He will be long gone with the short term profits that will end up crippling the company. Same tactics Jack used: No morality at all, short term profits to boost his pay. I won't fly anymore anyway, but I hate to have to watch for falling planes.

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
6. Yes. This is all about short term profits. The people who dismantled McDonnell Douglas
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jun 2014

certainly don't care what happens to Boeing.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
8. The "Center of Excellance" are gerrymandered districts
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 05:00 AM
Jun 2014

in states run by an old kkk political establishment that still runs everything down there under the guise of being "religious conservatives" Don't think young workers don't notice it.

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