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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 10:47 AM Jun 2014

Utah county follows Cliven Bundy's lead, refuses to recognize federal agencies

I guess they're a "sovereign county" now.

Carbon County, located on the eastern side of Utah and named for the coal deposits in the region, unanimously passed the resolution against federal agents on June 4. The county board of commissioners specially singled out officials from the Bureau of Land Management in its prohibition.

“Accordingly, the Board of Commissioners of Carbon County declares publicly in the interest of the health, safety and welfare of its citizens, that Carbon County does not recognize any attempt by a federal official to try to enforce state or local criminal or civil laws on any lands in Carbon County, including any BLM and Forest Service lands in Carbon County… including federal lands.”

"Any such attempted exercise of law enforcement powers by an official of a land management agency IS NOT RECOGNIZED by Carbon County," the resolution stated (caps in original), "and shall be deemed AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF CARBON COUNTY."

The resolution also demanded that any federal agent intending to take a law enforcement action "shall first declare his presence and intended action to the Sheriff of Carbon County."

http://rt.com/usa/166940-carbon-county-refuses-blm/

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bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
4. Federal agents don't usually enforce state or local laws, do they?
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jun 2014

Sort of like resolving that the sky is blue.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. That is a bit confusing.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jun 2014

They say Feds can't enforce local/state laws on Federal lands, as well as state lands.
I didn't follow the beginning of the kerfuffle to understand what state laws the Feds were attempting to enforce in the original incident.
I thought it was a Federal BLM issue on Federal lands.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
5. Gee, I was hoping from the headline that the post office and other federal agencies could just shut
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014

down for a bit. But the article doesn't read like that. Maybe one of the counties will make that mistake.

2naSalit

(86,544 posts)
7. Just goes to show
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jun 2014

what results from inbreeding and subsequent home schooling.

Obviously these clowns don't understand the social contract they have agreed to by remaining in this country... most likely this is a case of ignorance by choice. This temper-tantrum mentality is fed by the ignorance factor. That's what needs fixing.

So if all federal amenities are removed from their county, it should wake them up. A couple federal highways run through there, remove the pavement and a few miles of railroad track, block the road corridors, stop issuing the welfare checks and anything else that these welfare queens "take"... a wake up call of the caliber they will understand, eventually. Totally agree with the "nothing gets in or out" idea.

Might be the only way to demonstrate that they should practice what they preach... "love it or leave it". If you can't agree with the social contract, go someplace else. There are some huge deserts on other continents where there's lots of guns and hatred, maybe they'd be happier there.

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kcr

(15,315 posts)
10. Jury voted to leave this
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014


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kcr

(15,315 posts)
16. I'd also like to know why someone would even bother participating in the jury system
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jun 2014

if they think it's stupid to alert on right wing whacko opinions.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
13. Where does the Constitution state...
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jun 2014

...that the Federal Government has no right to "control property within the states"?

Article IV Section 3 states: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States;

Exactly what property do you think they're talking about?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
9. Cut off all federal money.....
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014

then services....Apparently nothing says they can't pursue Federal charges on land the government owns.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
12. This is what happens when you let one dumb ass get his way
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jun 2014

They should have put down that Bundy nonsense right away.

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