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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 02:53 PM Jun 2014

Are Polite People More Violent and Destructive?

A surprising study reveals who's most likely to do the right thing. Published on June 22, 2014 by Kenneth Worthy, Ph.D. in The Green Mind

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Now a new study using a variation of Milgram’s experiments shows that people with more agreeable, conscientious personalities are more likely to make harmful choices. In these new obedience experiments, people with more social graces were the ones who complied with the experimenter’s wishes and delivered electric shocks they believed could harm an innocent person. By contrast, people with more contrarian, less agreeable personalities were more likely to refuse to hurt other people when told to do so.

(One reason that the experimenters wanted to see the effects of agreeableness and conscientiousness is that some observers attributed those traits to Adolph Eichmann, main henchman of the German holocaust against the Jews and others the Nazis deemed inferior.)

The experimenters dug deeper to find out what other personality traits and political characteristics might help identify the people who would choose the more benign, caring path when put under social pressure to conform with harmful behavior. It turns out that people holding left-wing political views were less willing to comply with demands to inflict suffering. A third group was also more likely to go against the grain and refuse destructive orders—women who had previously participated in rebellious political activism such as strikes or occupying a factory.

If we are to bequeath a healthier planet to future generations, we’re going to have to break out of the routine behaviors set up by our contemporary economy and culture—the destructive patterns and complacency that have led to rampant consumption, political inertia, and their consequences—global climate chaos, vast numbers of species going extinct, and poisoned landscapes and seascapes.

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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-green-mind/201406/are-polite-people-more-violent-and-destructive
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Are Polite People More Violent and Destructive? (Original Post) ZombieHorde Jun 2014 OP
Fox viewers are compliant little fools RobertEarl Jun 2014 #1
True. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #2
It's not about politics BainsBane Jun 2014 #5
This is why sheep are so dangerous. woo me with science Jun 2014 #3
That makes sense to me BainsBane Jun 2014 #4
What a nice nod to those of us who "swim upstream" for what we believe to be right herding cats Jun 2014 #6
edit suggested - LiberalElite Jun 2014 #7
My thanks! herding cats Jun 2014 #9
Have been doing some research on the Holocaust. This is true. mainer Jun 2014 #8
That's been my observation in life RainDog Jun 2014 #10
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. Fox viewers are compliant little fools
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jun 2014

If the fox tells them to hate, they will hate.

Even parts of the bible tell people to hate, so the fox is nothing new.

The people who have their own minds are those who will hear an order and make up their own minds to obey or resist. There being fewer and fewer of that type of human on the face of this little blue ball spinning in the deep dark empty blackness of infinite space, this blue ball may just turn brown, like all the rest of space's terra firma rocks of twinkling like little stars.

Love is all you need. What the world needs now....

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
5. It's not about politics
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jun 2014

It's group dynamics. That would apply to people of any political point of view.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
3. This is why sheep are so dangerous.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jun 2014

This is why sympathizers to authoritarian rule are as malignant as the authoritarian rulers themselves. And this is why the propaganda tries so hard to elevate them and make it appear as though most of us feel that way.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
4. That makes sense to me
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jun 2014

People who go with the flow (more likely to conform) are more easily influenced, even by negative factors.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
6. What a nice nod to those of us who "swim upstream" for what we believe to be right
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jun 2014
These will be the people who refuse to buy a car and instead insist on using public transit and car-sharing programs, even as friends complain about the inconvenience. These will be the people telling friends and family to expect fewer, more customized holiday gifts to cut back on the material excesses of the season. They’ll be the people taking more local vacations and encouraging friends to do the same. They’ll be the ones advocating, at the risk of seeming impolite, against the suffering and environmental devastation associated with factory-farmed meat. They’ll rub some people the wrong way and they may make some enemies, but they’ll be at the forefront of the move toward a more just and less degraded world.

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The irony is that a personality disposition normally seen as antisocial—disagreeableness—may actually be linked to “prosocial” behavior. This connection seems to arise from a willingness to sacrifice one’s popularity a bit to act in a moral and just way toward other people, animals, or the environment at large. Popularity, in the end, may be more a sign of social graces and perhaps a desire to fit in than any kind of moral superiority.


I'm not rude to others; I just care and believe my and others choices matter. Maybe I'm not antisocial, but rather prosocial? I'd like to believe that.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. edit suggested -
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jun 2014

"advocating....for the suffering and environmental devastation" I think you meant "against" ?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
8. Have been doing some research on the Holocaust. This is true.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jun 2014

The Dutch turned over a far higher percentage of their Jews to the Germans than did the Italians. The Dutch believe in orderliness and respect for authority. The Italians -- eh, not so much.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
10. That's been my observation in life
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jun 2014

good to see it has some confirmation outside of my own experiences.

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