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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYour Doctor Knows You're Killing Yourself. The Data Brokers Told Her
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/hospitals-soon-see-donuts-to-cigarette-charges-for-health.htmlYou may soon get a call from your doctor if youve let your gym membership lapse, made a habit of picking up candy bars at the check-out counter or begin shopping at plus-sized stores.
Thats because some hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data to create profiles on current and potential patients to identify those most likely to get sick, so the hospitals can intervene before they do.
Information compiled by data brokers from public records and credit card transactions can reveal where a person shops, the food they buy, and whether they smoke. The largest hospital chain in the Carolinas is plugging data for 2 million people into algorithms designed to identify high-risk patients, while Pennsylvanias biggest system uses household and demographic data. Patients and their advocates, meanwhile, say theyre concerned that big datas expansion into medical care will hurt the doctor-patient relationship and threaten privacy.
It is one thing to have a number I can call if I have a problem or question, it is another thing to get unsolicited phone calls. I dont like that, said Jorjanne Murry, an accountant in Charlotte, North Carolina, who has Type 1 diabetes. I think it is intrusive.
onethatcares
(16,162 posts)an algorithm to charge the fracking and pollution industries for the harm they cause to our health?
Or do they only do this where they can charge we the consumer more?
Squinch
(50,911 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)MuseRider
(34,095 posts)From a former nurse.
I love where they say it is all about doctor-patient confidentiality so you should not worry but in the next sentence say the info is available to doctors and the hospitals. Above it mentions the info going to nurses as well. Of course it would all be available to the people who work in the offices too who have to arrange and key in the info. You KNOW your damned Dr. isn't going to be taking the time from his very fast, expensive in and out visits with his other patients to call you and talk about how many trips to McD's you made last month. Oh WAIT, it is the INSURANCE company that calls to discuss your daily habits. Hmmm, more Doctor-patient confidentiality.
Still, once they HAVE all your info you can opt out.
AND the only creepy part about this is having people know this info but not talk to you about it personally, ya know like a friend who happens to be the guy who tells you if you don't stop drinking pop your rates may go up. Nothing creepy about it at all as long as someone is on the other end of the phone talking to you about it.
This information and this article are disgusting. Makes me glad to have entered what is considered old age. Makes me very glad. The first time someone in a suit looks down at me while I am in a hospital bed and tells me I ate too many fatty foods and that is why I am there and why we have to discuss my next insurance policy I will punch them in their smug, freshly scrubbed, cerubic looking face.
Michigander_Life
(549 posts)Privacy or health (life, essentially), which is more important? Easy answer.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)First of all, big data can be dumb data. You might be buying cigarettes for a spouse or friend, but big data will think it's you: your insurance rate goes up (even under Obamacare), despite your protestations.
And what right does a doctor have, anyway, to call up to chastise you for buying Twinkies? If you are severely overweight, that is evident from a physical exam. There's no need to spy on your buying habits to diagnose the problem.
This is a gross invasion of privacy. Say my doctor finds out I've been buying Dr. Scholl's shoe inserts at the drugstore, and calls me up to encourage me to get foot surgery--for which he/she will get a kickback. This is more like advertising or ambulance chasing than the practice of medicine: seeking out candidates for procedures or care.
The deal is: people seek medical care for conditions they wish or need to address, and they have a right to not seek care as well. Doctors shouldn't spy on your privacy, and they should not come to you.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)"Pennsylvania health officials ordered to ignore fracking-related health complaints"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025165641
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)in the environment.
Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)I guess welcome to the NWO and all that...