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Nation editor stuns architect of catastrophe Bill Kristol: Join Iraqi Army if you want war
By David Edwards
Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:19 EDT
The Nations Katrina Vanden Heuvel on Sunday challenged neoconservative Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol to join the Iraqi Army if he felt so strongly about the U.S. taking more military action in the country in response to recent violence.
During an ABC News panel discussion about House Speaker John Boehners threat to sue President Barack Obama for executive overreach, Vanden Heuvel agreed that there were times that Congress should question the presidents authority.
For example, the president should go to Congress if hes going to take military action in Iraq, she explained. Theres no military solution to Iraq, and I have to say, sitting next to Bill Kristol, man I mean, the architects of catastrophe that have cost this country trillions of dollars, thousands of lives there should be accountability.
If there are no regrets for the failed assumptions that have grievously wounded this nation I dont know what happened to our politics and media accountability, but we need it, Bill, she continued. Because this country should not go back to war. We dont need armchair warriors, and if you feel so strongly, you should, with all due respect, enlist in the Iraqi Army.
Thats a very cute line, Kristol shot back.
But its real! Vanden Heuvel insisted. Millions of Iraqis have been displaced
What we have done to that country is a crime.
more/video at link~
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/29/nation-editor-stuns-architect-of-catastrophe-bill-kristol-join-iraqi-army-if-you-want-war/
Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)That ABC actually invited Katrina Vanden Heuvel to appear on its execrable talking-head wankfest in the first place! Usually, it's wall-to-wall warmonger all around the dial on Sunday morning (please pardon my anachronistic reference to the teevee 'dial').
mountain grammy
(26,571 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)And when the crooks make and enforce the laws, crime pays.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He should take the opportunity to ponder the decisions he and others are suggesting unless they want to step up to the plate themselves.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)There was nothing but the sounds of crickets over there. None of the chickenhawks and armchair warriors are fit to lead, period.
This is getting on the MIC owned and operated MSM because Obama has changed the rules of the game, as they can't shame him into a war. When you have a heart for people and hard choices to make, that's always the focus, not the ego that the Beltway media and the rest of the insane clown posse thrive on.
As he has said, it's not about him. No matter how hard some try to make it. No, it's about us.
Americans may even wake up to a new way of living. Just as we expected from Obama, and he is delivering on that change. It will not all be pleasant, but the riches falling into some pockets will have to be earned elsewhere, and that is what makes them scream in outrage.
Beaverhausen
(24,467 posts)Bill Kristol thinks war is cute. Jesus Christ.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)"I know I am but what are you?" What a juvenile! Billy Boy, go away and let the adults handle this round of conflict. You've proven yourself as a fool long enough.
3catwoman3
(23,820 posts)... any crap from anyone.
barbtries
(28,702 posts)when you got nothing...attack. he shows up everywhere beating the drums for more war and is usually welcomed with an echo chamber.
bastards.
i'm glad this aired on a mainstream source.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)childlike cuteness is a tactic people use to cut down their opposition into nothingness.
calimary
(80,700 posts)They're used to being treated as kings. How dare some uppity woman call them out, and on national television! Damn glad she did! I'm with HER!
Hey kristol, you arrogant chickenhawk fuck - "YOU FIRST!!!! Sign up, suit up, and ship out! You want more war in Iraq? Go over there and get it on. Knock yourself out.
barbtries
(28,702 posts)because he had nothing else. he's such an asshole. aargh
mountain grammy
(26,571 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)he would have died long ago from sleep deprivation.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,781 posts)He thinks adequate punishment for Bush is losing seats in Congress???
THIS is why some of these guys have to do some real time behind bars. They don't why what they do is just wrong so they need to at least understand what HAPPENS to them if they DO IT.
padruig
(133 posts)Misogyny has always had Bloody Bill Kristol as its "poster" boy
His dismissive attitude towards Vanden Heuvel a key problem we struggle with.
Women are the majority by population. They are our mothers and grandmothers and sisters and daughters; that we allow men of what some would regard as dubious privilege to decide the choices that women can make in health care, income equality and status should be considered tantamount to matricide.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I nearly jumped off the sofa and applauded her smacking that fookin' chickenhawk, neocon filth. he needs to be spanked publicly, EVERYTIME he is confronted on the Sunday talk shows. We wouldn't have this fookin' problem in Iraq and the Middle East today, if WE HADN'T INVADED IRAQ UNDER FALSE PRETENSES!! Whose fault?.....cheney and the clown, that's who.
jonjensen
(168 posts)Katrina should have added after she said he should join the iraq army ;but being a vietnam war draft dodging chicken hawk coward I know you don't have the guts to do your own fighting!
rustbeltvoice
(427 posts)Individuals such as Kristol, Cheney, et alia get free reign to spout off as if they were sacred oracles. Their comments are not wisdom, and certainly are false, they are excreta. Rarely, does an individual come (or would be permitted) to call them on their mendacity. Those speaking as Democrats are usually beyond timid to do so, either in fear of bad publicity in regard of voting or funding; or far worse, as professional courtesy, or as part of the fix of the establishment's permitted spectrum.
When these noxious wind bags get confronted with a needle, they deflate.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)spews their pro war agendas on the MSM, the response should be, "How much money do you stand to make off of another war?"