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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLizz Winstead: This is what happened to me when there was no buffer zone at an abortion clinic:
The violence at clinics started in the late 1970s. I was in my teens and I paid attention as in 1979, at 17 years old, I got pregnant. The journey that led me to my abortion choice is here:
http://vimeo.com/7548216
I went alone, I had no support, and the first time I could have real feelings about my choice in front of someone was at the clinic. I could speak freely, and without judgment.
I was professionally counseled; I was asked questions that did not have an agenda attached, it was only to evaluate my decision. It reaffirmed what I knew about myself, not as I had experienced days before at a Crisis Pregnancy center, what a stranger tried to impose upon me. I felt safe, I felt heard and as I say almost every time I have written about this subject I felt relief.
I made a promise to myself that I would always be there to advocate in anyway I could. And when the violence at abortion clinics started escalating in the 1980s, I tried to help.
Doctors were being gunned down at their clinics and in their homes. Their children were followed to school, taunted by dangerous pied vipers shouting, Your mommy (or daddy) is a murderer.
There wasnt organized clinic escorting yet so some activists would do things like stay overnight to protect clinic entrances before the most rabid of the protesters arrived. These people would do ANYTHING to gain access and even chain themselves to the clinic door, disrupting womens access to health care for the day.
There often was swarming between camps and chaotic pushing and shouting. We were without training so we made up rules as we went along. First rule we learned quickly was always wear thick jeans. No matter how hot it is.
Why?
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Read the horrifying rest:
http://bluenationreview.com/hey-scotus-right-get-stabbed-anti-abortion-protester/
An article about what abortion clinics can still do to protect themselves:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/06/29/abortion-clinics-are-not-defenseless-but-there-is-reason-for-caution/
The plaintiffs presented a 'kindly', elderly grandmother as the face of 'counseling' that people outside clinics do. The reality is far different.
SCOTUS seems to believe that clinic violence has is no longer a factor.(see the article above) They need to live in the real world. This is the same attitude that they had about voting rights. They seem to think that voters are no longer impeded.
Per ABC, one clinic had more than 200 people volunteer to be escorts after the ruling.
If you volunteer to be an escort, you have to be ready for anything. The loons will be out. Winstead spells out some of their nasty tactics. It won't just be locking arms.
You will literally have to fight and learn tactics that won't get you arrested. That might mean surreptitious self-defense. If they aren't seen attacking, you can't be seen forcefully defending yourself.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Jasana
(490 posts)If anyone had ever been stupid enough to block my access to a medical facility they would have been face down on the ground with a bloody nose. It's called self-defense and women have every right to it.
HaHaHa! How is this going to work in SYG states? Those pro-slavery SOBs can get pretty physical. There's no need for women to act timid around them.
I believe there is another thread about this floating around GD.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)If they aren't seen attacking, you will be seen as the antagonist if you respond forcefully.
You can't be timid, but you better believe they have been schooled in how to damage others surreptitiously. You do have a right to self-defense, but it has to be seen as just that.
In addition, violence is what they want. That deters even more people from seeking services. And in SYG stated, there might not be as much sympathy for those who protect clinics as there would be for gun nuts. A jury could hang a conviction for a protestor or easily convict an escort.
Learn to be sneaky too. Sigh.....
What a hot mess.
Violence is sometimes necessary, and fundies are insane and violent. I wish more people would realize a punch in the nose is far more productive than ever trying to reason with them
imthevicar
(811 posts)A Louisville slugger, for My Friends ordeal. we were given a wide birth. I didn't give a fuck what they said.
Joe Bacon
(5,163 posts)She asked me to go with her to the clinic because she was scared. She had every right to be scared since there were a bunch of thugs in front of the clinic, including a couple Catholic priests. I walked her through the gamut, people laid down in front of us, others screamed at us. So we walked over the idiots. When we did, one of the Catholic priests spit on us. That's when I pulled out my pepper spray and pointed it at that asshole.
BTW, the priest who spit on us was one of the big cogs in the anti-abortion movement. He was one of the few priests actually arrested for molesting kids a couple of years later.
Left me with a lifelong hatred of the pedophiles running that racket.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Apparently, she convinced Kagan and Sotomayor to follow her down the rightwing path to this terrible decision.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Which is why I am not keen on DU's practice of promoting the world's leading anti choice activist. Peace.