Just hope the non-crazy electorate is paying attention and VOTES!

to steal the election

Staging a coup?

It might not have prevented the installation of bush; but it would have ended any speculation as to who won the election (i.e., the popular AND Electoral College).

Blame the Senate Dems who didn't back the challenge during the EV count. We needed only ONE Dem senator to support the House Dems' challenge.

But if the candidate concedes, it is unlikely others will/would take up the fight.

But honestly, this is all "what if/after-whist", it is what it is ... bush was installed.

there were other legal avenues he could use to protest the obvious stealing of the election

as i recall from an article from someone that he had options

The last possible resort was a challenge during the counting of the Electoral Votes in January. House Democrats officially challenged, but the rules required at least one Senator to sign on. Not a single Democratic senator would sign the challenge. Blame them. Gore himself had no other options.

They weren't going to count any more votes and nothing could make them.

I don't understand this "GORE SHOULD HAVE KEPT FIGHTING !!!11!!11!!!!1!1!11" meme some cling to here.

Blame the state of Florida for botching that election.

If Florida had not incompetently ran their election, no matter what the outcome, win or lose, they never would have needed to decide the outcome in the Supreme Court.

I really hate that blame Nader shit.

He chose to help Bush.

It came from the sole fact that, through either incompetence or malfeasance, Florida fucked up their own election process.

If Nader earned his place on the ballot legally, the point is moot. If people voted for him, they had every right to do so.

Florida, on the other hand, could have fielded both a workable ballot AND counted the votes accurately, they did neither, hence why the outcome was decided in the court.

I really don't give two fucks about Nader. Gore would have won the election outright, had the votes were all counted correctly anyway, despite Nader's bid.

it also included voter suppression and corruption.

And thanks to the poster above who, like me, wishes that Gore had FOUGHT.

How, exactly, was Gore supposed to appeal the SCOTUS ruling?

Sadly, in some ways it was the perfect storm of corruption, voter suppression, ego and incompetence. I SOOO wish Graham had been chosen rather the Lieberman for vice-president, it would not have been close enough for the Bush forces to steal the election, and he would have made a good vice-president.

let's see where that gets anyone.

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99.9% of those sulking now will vote for the nominee, even if it's Hillary.

Otherwise, more of this type of crap.

And we need to stop tolerating it here..

I don't want Hillary, but I will vote for her if she is the nominee.

How some are answering it. I have seen it said many times that they simply will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. Those folks need to be purged from DU now...


They are not true Democrats.....they are idelogues and Independents. And in violation of TOS because their words and actions do not promote electing more Dems and less Republicans...

Forum? That is what ideologues do....I remind you this is Democratic Underground.

Independent Underground is ---thataway---->

Have you ever seen how dreamy the POTUS looks when he's eating an ice cream cone?

Doesn't the POTUS have the most beautiful children?


Is that better? This is, after all, DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Discussing-the-Issues Underground.

Some of us come here as s refuge from the hate.....you seem to be under the mistaken notion that DU is the Democratic Complaint Department.

Not taking any more of your bait. Till the next time, anyway...

Democrats on a Democratic Forum......there fixed that for you...

we never could have got here without you.

Why couldn't the senate democrats have bork'd that creep Thomas? Biden also banned some witnesses who would corroborate Anita Hill, of I recall correctly.

GOTV 2014!

Get a fricking Dem majority in Congress where legislation is written.

A Republican Congress will NEVER permit another Obama pick for the Court.

One can bet that if the Repubs take over the senate in 2015 and an opening on the USSC comes up, they will never allow Obama to appoint a Judge.

I get it. I'm hoping people say involved in November as well.

No Republicans in any positions. Not one!!!

... and if the Republican wins, you will be responsible for everything else that person does.

And you. But I would get banned.

We steer the party via primary elections. Then vote for the Democrat in the general election, holding your nose if necessary. Then vote against them again in the next primary.

In the primary, Democratic candidates don't have the option to "appeal to the center". In general elections, they do. As a result, we have far more power in primary elections than in general elections.

Oh, you're going to sit this one out if HRC is the nominee? Or going to vote for a third-party candidate?

Fine, you have that right.

And I have the right to call you a shortsighted fool.

I don't care who the Dem nominee is. I care about WINNING.

And I will vote for the Dem nominee come hell or high water so that the Republicans, who are holding on to the USSC by the old, white skin of their teeth and doing immeasurable damage, will not be able to keep their dark cloud over my children's future.

Corporations are people that can refuse to follow laws.

And the GOP can burn in hell.

I'm so angry right now. Anyone who threatens to sit out election and not vote dem because of their precious purity deserves no respect.

... when election day rolls around, everyone who calls him/herself a Democrat should remember these rulings by this SCOTUS. This Democracy is headed in the wrong direction!

and rational thought. Sadly.

The top recd thread here will be Hilary is evil. People will forget about this very quickly to applaud the Hillary bashers.

I'm not going to vote for Clinton in the primary. I do not like her policies.

If she wins the primary, I'll hold my nose and vote for her in the general. That does not make her policies good. That means she's the least-bad option.

But there are people like on this thread who say they won't vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5075831

"Understanding that the Republicans are WAY worse than Democrats" is sort of like "Walking".

"Wanting a better candidate than Hillary, and being really unhappy about some of HRC's policies" is sort of like "Chewing Gum".


We can do both at the same time.

Sid

They have to approve the president's picks.

and remind 'em. And they don't go out and vote. They concede before even going out onto the playing field. They shrug their shoulders and parrot the CON logic that "both parties alike." "They're all the same." No difference between blah-blah-blah..."

What can you do? And hey, religiosos - what happens when some Sharia Muslim business folk assert the same right that YOU assumed was only going to be confined to the Southern Baptist contingent? Whaddya do then?

Hey, folks at the state level - STILL think both parties are alike? STILL think there's no point in voting? STILL think your voice counts as much as the wackos who show up, pardon the pun, religiously at the polls every doggone time, whether it's for President or dog catcher - IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP??? STILL think what YOU thought was "settled law" really IS accepted as "settled law"?

I hope this sends a message to all the marriage equality advocates across America. Just because you're winning now doesn't mean that will stand. There are far too many people who think YOU do not deserve such rights or protections, and the Supreme Court has just opened the door to arguments they can now use on their side - to insist that THEIR "closely-held" religious right trumps yours. And they don't give up. They WILL be coming for those hard-earned and hard-fought rights you've recently won. GUARANTEED. Indeed, they already are!

Whoever the Democratic candidate is, I'm voting for him/her.

Why? Because while the presidents a key spot they all play a part from the senate who confirms the positions to local state government as its the local state government that sets the districts and the republicans have been able to gerrymander so many of the districts to favor their candidates at the federal level because they realized long ago that the state level government matters alot more than just the office of president.