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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:06 AM Jun 2014

Supreme Court rules women can be discriminated against in health decisions

Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:47 AM PDT
Supreme Court rules women can be discriminated against in health decisions
by Joan McCarter


Protesters hold signs at the steps of the Supreme Court as arguments begin today to challenge the Affordable Care Act's requirement that employers provide coverage for contraception as part of an employee's health care, in Washington March 25, 2014.

The U.S. Supreme Court convened on Tuesday to consider whether business owners can object on religious grounds to a provision of President Barack Obama's healthcare law requiring employers to provide health insurance that covers birth control.     REUTERS/Larry Downing   (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS HEALTH BUSINESS RELIGION) - RTR3IJ5S
The U.S. Supreme Court has given corporations even more personhood by deciding that they can have religious beliefs in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores. They ruled that closely held companies are exempt from the contraceptive coverage mandate for their employees' health insurance, and are exempt from that provision of the Affordable Care Act. The decision, 5-4 and the majority opinion written by Alito, is being described as "narrow." It is narrow, in that basically only applies to women.

The Court says:

This decision concerns only the contraceptive mandate and should not be understood to mean that all insurance mandates, that is for blood transfusions or vaccinations, necessarily fail if they conflict with an employer's religious beliefs.


Men could need blood transfusions or vaccinations, so of course they can't allow the exemption from Obamacare to extend to them. The Court then says that this ruling is preventing discrimination. That would be discrimination against who really matters to the majority of the Roberts Court—corporations.

The decision also only applies to "closely held" corporations, which the IRS defines as having more than 50 percent of its stock owned by 5 or fewer individuals. It says that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act requires that the "government provide closely-held corporate objectors the same accommodation it already provides nonprofit organization objectors."

So religious belief trumps medical science and women's ability to make their own health care decisions, and corporations get to dictate that, according to the majority of the Supreme Court.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/30/1310535/-Supreme-Court-rules-women-can-be-discriminated-against-in-health-decisions

OT: Hmm... And what's that I see behind those peaceful protesters exercising their First Amendment right? Is that a barrier? Oh, that's right, the supreme Court isn't a woman's healthcare facility! Silly me!
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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. While I agree that we need to look hard at Single Payer
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jun 2014

I am not sure that this particular decision really goes to that - wouldn't the same objections come up under that? And worse because you'd have people complaining that their tax dollars were going to support practices they found offensive?

Bryant

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. I'm sorry - I am just saying that people are going to complain either way
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jun 2014

And that it will be a bigger political kerfluffel under single payer - I don't know what's stupid about pointing that out. Do you really expect this issue not to come up under single payer?

Bryant

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. i wasnt calling you stupid, i meant that yes it will come up there as well
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jun 2014

because of stupid, immature people who dont understand or trust science, but do trust an invisible man in the sky who doesnt exist

However, I think if healthcare came thru single payer, it would be impossible to exclude basic healthcare such as contraception...

too many americans would demand it

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
2. Religious freedom trumps human rights.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jun 2014

For the millionth time. I'll never understand religion or the people who cling to it and use it as an excuse to justify causing pain to other human beings.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
8. Where is the logic??
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:03 PM
Jun 2014

Health care benefits are part of an employee's compensation package.

Employers actually add the health care amount to wages to demonstrate to the employee or prospective employee their total compensation. The last one I personally saw do this was a Catholic Hospital.

How can it be decided that an employer can pick and choose a woman's birth control? It's HER compensation. What other demands will an employer be able to make in the future based on this precedent?

This is lunacy!! While I haven't read the whole decision, I understand that Kennedy, at least in part, based his decision on the fact that the Obama administration already allowed the birth control exemption for religious organizations. That logic would open the door for ANY exemption in any legislation. Of course I, among so many others, didn't agree with that exemption to begin with and here we are with its unintended consequences.

What's next? No coverage for AIDS treatment?

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