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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:30 AM Jun 2014

Anyone have anything against Michael's Art's and Crafts? If not, we should make (UPDATED)

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them rich, loudly and proudly.

Are there other local/regional/national chains you might go to instead of Hobby Lobby?

EDIT: I've been informed that Bain and Blackstone are part owners of Michael's. Shit.

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Anyone have anything against Michael's Art's and Crafts? If not, we should make (UPDATED) (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 OP
I go to Michael's for framing and such. No reason to go to HL. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #1
JoAnn's Fabric - Lots of craft stuff too. N/t TBA Jun 2014 #2
That's where I go. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #3
That's my go to place too. Skidmore Jun 2014 #6
Jo-Ann's - enlightenment Jun 2014 #4
JoAnn's is in Georgia too, theres one in my town. Erose999 Jun 2014 #7
Tennessee, too. Fawke Em Jun 2014 #9
Florida too mcar Jun 2014 #13
Texas, too. narnian60 Jun 2014 #14
Michigan top Scout Jun 2014 #24
Well, clearly I was wrong about Jo-Ann's locations! enlightenment Jun 2014 #33
Here in No. VA, I've never seen a Hobby Lobby. n/y FSogol Jun 2014 #5
We don't have Hobby Lobby in Oregon or I would boycott them. I buy lots of craft stuff. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #8
What company in Oregon is a good alternative to HL? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #10
Why chains? Why not locally-owned businesses, if at all possible. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #11
Good idea, WBB. I was focusing on national scope because of the national scope of DU. But, ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #12
I live in a blue area of a purple state and have many to choose from. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #31
More likely than not, they're also owned by some rich conservative asshole(s). Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #15
While I agree mostly, I don't mind patronizing a conservative-run business if they ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #17
Bain Capital and the Blackstone Group are the main owners of Michael's Arts and Crafts. PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #16
Well, fuck. Guess that blows that idea out of the water. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #18
Good to know. Bain also owns Guitar Center. I'm a luthier as a hobby & I avoid HL and GC but I Erose999 Jun 2014 #21
Local independent retailers whenever possible Armstead Jun 2014 #19
Agreed. That's a given at all times, not just now. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #20
YES, and DIY as much as you can. Erose999 Jun 2014 #22
+1 Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #26
Daniel Smith Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #23
For needlework supplies, the local Michael's has scaled back csziggy Jun 2014 #25
More and more we need to use smartphone apps to determine where to shop and RKP5637 Jun 2014 #27
I go to Michael's, never HL. What about Jo-Ann's? nt valerief Jun 2014 #28
What is Michael's and Joanne's RELIGION? HockeyMom Jun 2014 #29
Just looked up Jo-Ann's. Owned by a leverage buyout company. Only religion appears to be $$$. nt valerief Jun 2014 #32
Michael's is the Wal-Mart of crafts. Lindsay Jun 2014 #30

Scout

(8,624 posts)
24. Michigan top
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

i've never shopped at Hobby Lobby, not sure if we have them around here. We have Michael's but I don't think I've ever gone there for anything.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
33. Well, clearly I was wrong about Jo-Ann's locations!
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

We don't have Hobby Lobby here, which is just as well - saves me from temptation to egg their windows. Michael's, Jo-Ann's, Dick Blick, and a very small handful of local specialty shops (beads, stained glass, one place that sells only scrapbooking stuff . . .).

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
11. Why chains? Why not locally-owned businesses, if at all possible.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jun 2014

A family member dragged me to a Hobby Lobby up in PA years ago and I was a bit overwhelmed by the volume of Cheap$hitFromChina, not to mention the feeling that I was being beaten over the head with religion. Spent about $8 on a candle and got the hell out... forever.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
12. Good idea, WBB. I was focusing on national scope because of the national scope of DU. But,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jun 2014

yours is, of course, an excellent idea. Help out your local businesses who know how to separate their business operations from religion and politics.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
31. I live in a blue area of a purple state and have many to choose from.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jun 2014

I know not everyone does, though.

I'll "buy blue," so have no trouble supporting businesses that get political. And religion factors in occasionally -- Halal markets, kosher delis, Buddhas at Thai restaurants, etc. I'll even shop at the locally-owned Jesus fish nursery, because they offer an outstanding selection and hire knowledgeable staff. If a business has a rainbow flag, I'm more inclined to stop in. A local bar has a no guns policy; I'm there because they took a stand against the winning combination of "responsible gun owners" and alcohol. I shop at a union grocery store, at least for the basics.

I'm just really sick of the Christian Taliban and the influence it wields on Idiot America. Sigh.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,154 posts)
15. More likely than not, they're also owned by some rich conservative asshole(s).
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

The general rules concerning political ideologies:

1. Most (but not all) Hollywood celebrities are liberal.
2. Most (but not all) large corporations are run by conservatives.

Exceptions abound in both cases, but you've got a 75% or so chance of making such an assumption and being correct.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
17. While I agree mostly, I don't mind patronizing a conservative-run business if they
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jun 2014

are not being assholes and know how to separate business from religion and politics. I would, however, prefer a liberal-run business if there is that alternative and I know about them.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
21. Good to know. Bain also owns Guitar Center. I'm a luthier as a hobby & I avoid HL and GC but I
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

didn't know about Michael's. I sometimes go there for super glue or paintbrushes or other supplies. I'll be avoiding them too from now on. There is a local art store but its in an inconvinient part of town and they're 9-5 so its hard to get there during work hours. But they'll be getting a lot of my business, and I'll be doing more shopping online as well.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
25. For needlework supplies, the local Michael's has scaled back
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

They used to have two very full aisles for needlework supplies, charts, and tools. Now less than one side of one aisle is devoted to needlework and often it is not fully stocked.

Joann's hasn't cut back, but their stock is haphazard - sometimes, they simply don't have all the colors of floss available and there will be many holes in the racks.

As much as possible I buy from local shops, but the only "local" shop is 40+ miles one way from me and is sketchy at best - odd hours, odd selection of items, really odd owner. So I end up buying online from local shops in other places, trying to stop at local shops when I travel, or buying at national or regional seminar boutiques (which are usually run by a local shop).

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
29. What is Michael's and Joanne's RELIGION?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

Does anyone know???? Should they disclose it to the Public, and Employees, now?

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
30. Michael's is the Wal-Mart of crafts.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jun 2014

What they're willing to sell is what manufacturers produce. Ran into this issue with polymer clay, which is my favorite craft material. The primary manufacturer, which used to make a good range of artist's colors, now make whatever Michael's is willing to put on their shelves.

Pat Catan's is an independent chain in northeastern Ohio and western PA that I used to frequent when I lived in the area. Not as complete a selection as the big chains, but worth checking out for good prices if they have do what you want. They were good on supplies for kids' group crafts.

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