...except recreational sex? None that I know of. Zero, zip, nil, nada.

This decsion is not surprising in the least, but really maddening.

and other drugs for erectile dysfunction. What other use do those meds have except making recreational sex possible?

It's not all recreational.

I find nothing wrong with that. Humans are sexual beings.

I really really hope it does wake women up.

If women get truly angry and vote their anger because of this ridiculous ruling, it could change the political landscape no matter what the national media says or does. Being told you cannot have contraceptives, you have to pay on your own, when others have coverage, that will anger many. If many ..or most..vote against those conservative ideas, and the most understand what has truly happened, the landscape could be changed in our favor for decades..yes, decades

Depends on what women do.

Probably forever. Remember demographics. There's allot of come-up-ence coming one of these days. Yip... I can see a majority court of nine WOMEN at some point in the future.

In a better world, this would guarantee a minimum of 51% of the vote to go against Republicans for the foreseeable future, in every district.

Somehow I doubt it will mean that. Hopefully it will wake up enough to make a difference, though.

I wouldn't put it past this SCOTUS to legalize rape as the freedom of expression right of white men. I don't think it can be over emphasized what danger women's rights are in right now, as well as every other minority group's rights as well.

I just don't get how any sane woman could ever vote Puke but I know they do. It's hard to deem them worthy of respect as they don't seem to have any for themselves or other women.

I sure hope the rest of us with brains left get ourselves and every other fair and sane person we know out to make the Pukes pay for this at the polls.

Might be a mistake come fall.

republicans, SC justices and corporate media: please do NOT try to tell me there's no war on women.

They are just 'precious' enough to do that.

How do we fight back against what seems to me to be a 5-4 dictatorship?

Pro Woman Democratic Party member in the white house come January 2017.

That's the only way to stop it.

Think Roe v Wade is still "settled law"? Well, YOU may agree that it is. But the avalanche of obstructors and objectors who disagree and want to take that right away from us women - will NEVER agree or concede or go away or give up. Which means WE CAN'T EITHER!!!!!!

And it does no good to assume that just because we have a "D" in the White House, that'll be enough. What if that "D" is outnumbered by "Rs" in BOTH House and Senate? When they tried impeachment against President Clinton, they had an "R" House of Reps. They failed in the Senate because there was a "D" Senate to stop it and prevent his conviction on those articles of impeachment. But what if it had been different? What if he'd been up against an "R" Senate, so deeply politicized that they would jump at the chance at voter nullification and getting rid of him - even if it meant we'd have a President Gore.

We can't ONLY have a Democrat in the Oval Office and assume we're safe. That "D" needs lots of backup across town on Capitol Hill too.

EVERYBODY, PLEASE!!! REMEMBER!!!! The bad guys are numerous and relentless. They do NOT roll over and go back to sleep, assuming they've "got this." They don't give up. They just never do. So we can't afford to. EVER.
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GET OUT AND VOTE, PEOPLE!!!! And make damn sure your friends and family - and all those "meh, they're all alike, no difference, blah-blah-blah" assholes do likewise!

By continuing to elect democrat presidents. Continually, the supreme court will grow old and retire or pass away. A democrat president and senate can elect fair judges, not right wing ideologist.

justices impeached and replaced by Obama with a justice who'll stand with the American people, not corporations.

"Democratic presidents"

several years back, I believe. It's probably going to be a mainstream view among Republicans soon.

GOTV...

And their reason was "shut up and stop asking questions".

here's the ruling: http://www.scribd.com/doc/231967955/Hobby-Lobby-Ruling

I do have my hair on fire I'm so mad!

I'm furious.

wanted to implement Sharia law in the office?

Religion and corporations.

No more government "of, for, and by the people." Now we'll have government "of, for, and by the religio-corporatists."

Do you really believe this government is "of, for and by the people"? I don't. NSA, Wall Street, lobbyist, gerrymandering, the list goes on. I believe it is the "do anything, say anything to get reelected" government.

he just got his Supreme Court buddies to install his sorry ass into the presidency

(AKA probably someone rich) dictating your personal life which they absolutely adore.

Come on, if you are for economic feudalism then what's not to like?

Also, they actually like a pervasive and unlimited government a lot they just want it to be restrained in scope to blowing up brown and yellow folks, controlling other folk's bodies in various ways (out of fear that someone might have a good time), keeping the minorities at home properly beaten down, spying on everyone for profit and power, and security for some people's property (their's and their liege's).

They just can't abide the general welfare and equal protection under the law bits, when they say they hate the government this is what they speak of though some have moved on to just wanting the corporations to do the bombing and forced ultrasounds and do actually hate the government, most are still big believers after their fashion.

birth control don't take it, nobody is forcing anyone to take something they are opposed to, just don't deny someone medical coverage for medicine that is legal and affordable.
What's next, making sure the employee votes for the companies party of choice?

As soon as we accepted pissing in their cups, made them them the gatekeepers for care, and signing agreements dictating after hours behavior we said all such eventualities were okay and forthcoming.

They want what they want, when they want it, and without regard to the harm it may do to anyone not their personal selves.

the senate, let alone the Supreme Court. . .

As I shook my head and sadly laughed, my MIL piped up "I don't know either. Who is running what? I know Obama's the President."

telling the American people who the Supremes are, who appointed them and what they stand for. If done in an outrageous, humorous way, maybe, just maybe, the American public will watch it, their eyes will be opened, and they will learn something. Sorry as it may be, it seems as if the only thing a majority of people pay any attention to these days are youtube videos. If that's what is needed to educate mainstream Americans, then hopefully someone will do it.

Take those photos from a few weeks back of Emma Stone and James Garfield - the ones where they held up white cards with a message to the paparazzi to get attention for good causes...next, get 5 A-list Hollywood actors and liberal activists to take a picture of themself with a blank card in front of their mouth or better yet a hand-written message about a specific Supreme Conservative and their most outrageous statements....for a douchebag like Alito, we may need multiple stars....

If you want to reach the youth, you go where they live and do it on their terms...otherwise we can preach to the choir here and all we will get is a little (OK, today its MUCH NEEDED) tension relief by screaming about this...

Someone should also make videos of the civil rights movements for blacks and women to remind everyone of just how hard our for-bearers had to fight for the rights we have now, that we are just sitting here watching them disappear one my one. It's time to quit the inner squabbling and devote all our energies to getting as many Pukes out of office as we can.

Then we can look to running actual progressives in primaries but #1 has to be tossing the Pukes out first.

And not for their oppressors, in red areas.

I'd love for this to be true -- but having seen too many deranged office-holders get in, all too often with the complicity of female voters, I will wait and see.

Women just take it and take it and take it. They will still cover things like Viagra, but women are expected, STILL, to magically not get pregnant. Something tells me this SC would rule in favor of chastity belts, FGM, and anything else that is made to belittle women and torture women. America is not a good place to be a woman, but women are complicit in the subjugation.

Those misogynist creep would vote in favor of mandatory Burka in addition to what you mentioned like Female genital mutilation. The fact that they came up with something like "Legitimate" Rape makes me sick.

So hope no woman gets on the bad side of her male boss and his sincerely held religious beliefs.

spousal abuse.

And then what about those pesky laws against rape if the victim is your wife?

Does FIFRA make them unenforceable?

Couldn't a man's religion and conscience permit him to rape his wife without consequences if you take the FIFRA as far as the Supreme Court is taking it?

Maybe I am a bit emotional about this, but such a hideous decision.

Women's rights are going to be, along with the NSA spying and economic inequality A DECISIVE ISSUE IN 2016 IF NOT IN 2014.

We have to get the message out to Southern women: if you want birth control, you had better vote Democratic. If you want a career outside your kitchen and the nursery, you had better vote Democratic. Democrats stand for women.

Republicans want women weak, willing and wet. That's all they want us for. Shame on them.

GOPers have been saying that the founding fathers were on to something . . .

Vote these MFers out! 2014 and 2016, restore women's right to make her own decision about her own body!

We need to get out the vote so fucking big this fall that we make damn sure the senate doesn't flip and maybe we can even pick up some seats!

It better fucking piss all of us off so much we elect a super majority to impeach these fuckers. If not, time to leave!
Let's also not forget the Labor ruling..

I am still seething about it. I am past the age of needing contraception, but I am angry that younger women are being denied birth control.

Just say no to sex!

How fast will things change?

I always liked that one.

...and expect us to magically not get pregnant. In certain areas of this country, that happens routinely. Yeah, I am talking about the area where I live, those red states, especially in the southeast. The running joke is to find a 12 year old virgin, you have to find a girl who can outrun her brother, father, uncles, AND her cousins. The guy my mother picked out to try to make me straight told me being a lesbian was wrong, but he had sex with his sister routinely and that was ok.

So, good luck getting that no sex idea to work in places like my hometown. They will just rape a woman and get it anyhow and there is nothing women can do to fight back or get any justice, at least not in places like my hometown.

I wish your plan would catch on and work though. Something has got to give. Women are, not slowly, but fast losing rights it took ages to get in the first place.

Is there any way for the Supreme court to disband?

In PA, the age limit is 70 for judges.

say it's a slam against obamacare.

I imagine this sort of thing plus the improving economy/jobs should help us win the election this year. Since the supreme court is aging and one of them may need to be replaced.

Please let this be the nail in the coffin for GOP.

I think that we should be counselling Hobby Lobby shoppers about the oppression of Christian practice in China, forced abortions in China, horrible working conditions in China, loss of American jobs to China... We have freedom on the sidewalks of public areas to hand out info to every Hobby Lobby shopper - ok also to yell at them that every cent they spend in Hoppy Lobby supports abortions and religious oppression in China.

Supreme court. (and Romney).

Never enter Hobby Lobby again, never buy any of Mennonite company's wood products. Make sure your women friends are also aware of what has happened today. Hurt these businesses where they live, in their pocket book. This ruling is a disgrace to America and to all women everywhere. It shows the ignorance of old white conservative men about women's health care. They belong to the Rush Limbough school of knowledge of lady parts.

The full effect of the decision won't be known for some time. What we can expect is that HL and the other plaintiffs in the case will immediately advise their insurer to remove the "objectionable" forms of birth control from coverage.

Based on state insurance law there may be a 30 to 60 day notice requirement so the coverage may remain in effect during that period. If I were representing HL I would urge them not to challenge state notice requirements.

The longer term effects in terms of the number of companies that may qualify for the exception will actually exercise that right won't be known for some time. As well the administration may apply the same carve out they have for non-profits with a religious exemption and push the cost for the coverage to the insurance company.

What I thought was ironic with the decision was the Court's own "push" of the non-profit carve out "cram down" on the insurance company. Do they really not think that the insurance company is going to recover those extra costs by charging higher premiums for the other covered services?

I do hope, as your suggest, that women's vision will continue to become clear on the difference between the Republicans and Democrats with respect to women. The Republicans don't have a problem with companies compensating men and women differently for the same job. Republicans apparently don't have a problem with insurance companies charging women more for their health insurance simply because they are women. Don't they realize that without women, and healthy women, some of them might not be here or they won't have someone to "drill"? Republicans seem to think that women deserve to be raped because they led the boys on. Republicans ridiculed the President's recent roundtable on paid leave, including maternity leave.

Republicans hate families and women. They do. They don't want workers to be paid a living wage. They seem opposed to unemployment insurance, access to affordable health care, food assistance when needed, etc.

fuck at work here. Probably that by the time we can unwind all of their bullshit it will no longer matter, our government superceded by powerful multinationals and Chamber of Commerce greedheads further entrenched by the day no matter who is elected.

In the end we will have all the freedom that we can afford and not an iota more or less.

Abortion won't be illegal, all you'll have to do is bring in a concierge practitioner to your estate, no worries about privacy because if he talks you will own them (if you don't already). If you can afford it then have at it with the birth control, you think rich men want their mistresses coming up pregnant all the time or for their wives carrying all the time? They don't want their fortunes divided 200 ways.

taking the vote away from women since 2000 when they thought they would have power for a couple of presidents. They thought Bush the stupid would be followed by another republican and they were working up to it. It might take a few decades but they want to do it.

My wife would like to know about that. Where is the link to show her what they want to do?

in the year 2000. Rush Limbaugh, when I listened to him in the 90s and local talk radio idiots in 2000 right after Bush got selected, one of the topics was Should Women Give up the Right to Vote. And when so many of the GOP want voter ID that discriminates against Dems and females, and when they want to rob women of so many rights we gained in the last 20 years it is just a very good deduction that that would be the next step. After all most women vote Dem and they don't want anyone who votes Dem to vote period, paragraph. My memory does not have a link.

also that feminists have ruined the country.

Lately the so-called liberal (aka moderate in the real world) members have been voting surprisingly conservative. I'm sure Ginsberg didn't vote for it, since she dissented, but what about Roberts, Sotomayer & Kagan? How deep does this travesty go?

Of course, any idiot would know that Scalia, Alito, Thomas & Roberts would vote against women. Don't think there's anything anti-women or anti-worker that they would even consider voting against, the hateful scum that they are,.

I am waiting for the other protestant churches along with Latter Day Saints,
Snake handlers, Holy Rollers, etc along with the Catholic church to file suit to have the same accommodations. I wish someone could come up with a good reason to remove the 5 idiots from the Court.

I hope the wives of these five Catholic men know how to deal with this thing.

payroll deduction similar to Social Security Deductions and converting to Universal or Single payer is the answer.

Could be that Hobby Lobby just did the nation a favor and excalated the track to single payer.

by causing Short Luteal Cycles (prevent implantation). Are they going to tell mothers they cannot nurse their newborns because it might, repeat MIGHT, kill the unborn? Or is that fine because GAWD causes that??????

When the RW came out with voter fraud I thought BS but I am rethink, with corporations controlling so much then they need a way to vote. Ergo, voter fraud for the corporations. We need to mount a campaign to get our courts making decisions for the citizens rather than the corporations. It is time to run GOTV rallies, we can do this.

is this quote real - form Borowitz but the quote seems real By a 5–4 vote on Monday, the United States Supreme Court settled a dispute that Justice Samuel Alito said was “at its core about the rights of women versus the rights of people.”

This is precisely what these old right wing gasbags want:

women get back in the kitchen, home school your kids, and get in the bedroom
on your back for on demand missionary only approved sex to pop out
another kid.

real life is making satire obsolete.

They also managed to piss off one of the biggest groups of voters in the country: atheists. As well as any one who doesn't follow Hobby Lobby's insane agenda.

the ones that include women, welcome women, and affirm the rights of women.

It never is. GOTV for Democrats.

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For years I've been waiting for the outrage to spill over and change things. I mean, WTF, we're the majority of the population and our rights are being hacked away daily... But, still, election day is months away, people have the attention span of gnats, and millions of dumbasses will keep voting for these rightwing misogynists and by association these justices. This country (and we women) are so fucked.

Nothing ever seems to make women angry enough to change things. Then again, as fast as we are losing rights, soon, we won't be ABLE to change things. Oh, THEN women will want to change things, but by then, it will be a much harder fight and takes ages to get back to almost having rights again, which was the most we almost got to begin with. One step forward and fifty steps back.

THIS november and in 2016. But short memories and believing republican lies are the republicans best friend at the voting booth

One trip around the fishbowl and most Americans cannot remember what they had for breakfast, let alone political realities.

This well-planned right-wing affront on American liberties will not change until those in power are voted out and replaced with those willing to stand up for what (supposedly) this country stands for. That holds for women's rights as well as the rights of ALL Americans. Worry less about starting wars and more about correcting social injustices that are running rampant in this country.

Until that happens about the only avenue left open is attacking the purse. Do not shop there. $$ and power is what they crave...If they were true to what they state then they would not be buying from China, or any other country that offers (in some cases forces) birth control. People and companies like H_L are cheats and liars, and they are well represented by cheats and liars. And right now they know they can get away with anything.

Fighting the lies in this country is not easy, but it must be done we are to survive.

All of the conservative wives and girlfriends, as they use contraception also

Welcome to DU!

your cave man asses.

before we can expect any better from the supremes.
Yes, their decision may help us in elections, but not with the court.
And Roberts is a fairly young man.
I'll die before he does.

More women than men vote, but women don't vote as a united bloc. They are ideologically divided on several issues.

see this article from Mother Jones http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/hobby-lobby-sebelius-contraceptive-for-profit-lawsuits

...and Men mad. We need to stick together.

Now employers will be able to decide on personal health issues for women. This is a big win for conservatives .. they are dancing in the streets. 5 jackass conservative corporate thugs decide about women's health. When will people ever ever wake the hell up?

into the November elections.

The only way that we could ever get any of these unelected scumbags impeached is if we have Dem majorities in BOTH houses and then keep pushing those same Dems to DO it.

This isn't just a single ruling - it is a demonstrated pattern of activism designed to take rights from human individuals and give them to corporations (i.e. "fictional" persons) or others in positions of disproportionate power.

About 55% of white women voted for Romney, even after the multitude of misogynistic comments by Republicans. I highly doubt something like this will sway that 55%, odds are they like this ruling.

Any downside to the decision is viewed simply as the cost of doing business.

Too much BS talk, women getting mad now, angry? ok prove it... Vote Democrat 2014, keep the Senate, cut into the House majority, elect Democrat Governors, kick out some of the old guard...McConnell, McCain, Graham, carry this through into 2016, keep our president Democrat, replace the old Supreme court with new liberal thinkers, new ideas, justices that work for justice, not Oil, Wall street, big money corporations. When this happens, when all of this happens, then I will believe it too be true....first step....2014

Essentially slut shames women (i.e. "Bosses shouldn't have to pay more because you can't keep yor legs closed.&quot . No one is fooled. This is about a certain subset of men letting women know that they still own us. The Patriarchy is crumbling, so they're going to try to hang on to their last vestiges of control.

Now that the Supremies have said you can pick and choose the laws you obey as long as there is a religious justification, I suppose Moslems killing Christians is legal because their religion demands all infidels be killed. How about Rasta's smoking weed because it is central to their religion? No more pot laws for Rasta's? I love this ruling. How about if My religion Required me to drive 100 MPH on freeways because my religions says you can only understand god at that speed? Certainly not much dumber than where we are going with this supreme court.

Anyone with a brain in their heads should be furious over this bullshit.

Women were so angry over rightwing loon gov spongebob vagina probe and his deranged AG ken kookienellie that McAuliffe won and we didn't even like Terry that much.

I know 3 GOP women who just didn't vote they couldn't bring themselves to vote dem but they couldn't bring themselves to vote for vagina probing either so they stayed home

This has been simmering for years. With each assault by the rightwing we get madder and madder. White women may have voted for Mitt but he isn't president. Not all of us voted for him, good thing our black and brown sisters had more sense.

Hobby Lobby doesn't seem to have any religious objections to theft.

and start arresting the Kochs, the frackers, the oilers, the haters, etc.....this Planet is seriously screwed. They will lock it all up never to return to any hope as they are doing so successfully now. Fair warning.

Indeed they will!