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Supreme Court institutes Sharia Law!!11!1! (Original Post) hootinholler Jun 2014 OP
Right. The 5 are all Catholic or Thomas,. the worst possible combination of a Catholic JDPriestly Jun 2014 #1
An excellent post malaise Jun 2014 #2
Another poisonous thrust in the ongoing Republican War on Women Crowquette Jun 2014 #3
Yeap, basically for a Muslim based company to discriminate against ANYONE they just have to 1. uponit7771 Jun 2014 #4

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. Right. The 5 are all Catholic or Thomas,. the worst possible combination of a Catholic
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jun 2014

upbringing and a fundamentalist personal religion.

FIFRA. Bah! We don't need it. We have a Constitution. It guarantees our right to religious freedom and balances it with our right to no government endorsement or adoption of religion. FIFRA is being interpreted to protect the rights of religion over the rights of individuals. That is Sharia law if there ever was any.

Too many Catholics on the Supreme Court.

Let's just say it. Too many Catholics on the Supreme Court. Sorry if that hurts your feelings because you are Catholic. But, . . . .

Are there any ordinary, mainstream Protestants on the Court at all?

This is a travesty. One of my ancestors came to this country because he was jailed for preaching a Protestant message where he was living in Europe. Seriously. That happened, And now here we are in America where each of us is supposed to have Freedom of Reiigion, but we find this outrageous sort of loyalty to the Pope in the highest Court of the country.

How can a business have a religious conviction? Absurd. What an excuse to allow five grown MEN (!!!! no women among the 5) to vote to enslave women to the grueling task of childbirth. (If the case had been about the right to birth control at all, how would they have voted, their religion or their better judgment?)

We need birth control. We need it as a species because if we don't have it and use it we reproduce so much that we end up killing each other. Or we end up infecting each other with horrible, deadly diseases.

In my view, opposing birth control is simply a way for men to keep women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

That goes for you -- Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy. Just male chauvinists.

When was the last time any one of these men went without sex for religious reasons? What is it that the Hobby Lobby boss thinks is dirty about sex? I'd like to have a discussion with them. At the age of 71 and after 51 years of marriage, I could tell them a thing or two about sex and its place in human relationships. The Pope is not a very good resource on the topic. He has never been married and is supposed to be celibate. What does he know about marriage, family planning or human sexuality? Absolutely nothing.

I must, in part, blame the Democratic senators who voted for, especially Alito. I know I sound intolerant, but I must clarify. I do think that we are all free to follow our own religion. And I do not believe in prohibiting any religion. I believe in tolerance. I believe that neither the Catholics on the Supreme Court nor my boss should be able to impose their religions on me.

But the Catholic Church has been the bastion of intolerance almost since it was formed. It has also been the bastion of sexism,, of the war against women. And here we go again. I am happy if someone wants to be a Catholic, but I do not want Catholics imposing their ideas on me.

Most Catholics, as polls have shown, use birth control. It is the height of hypocrisy for a company like Hobby Lobby which hires many women of child-bearing age who are not at home tending their half-dozen to dozen offspring, to think that their female employees do not use or have the right to use birth control.

Hobby Lobby sells hobby stuff. How in the world do they think that the modern working woman will have nay demand for the products they sell if she has a brood of little ones waiting for her after her work day? Hobby Lobby needs to enter the 21st century as do the Catholic members of our Supreme Court.

I hope that non-Catholics will get out and vote in the next elections so that we can get a Supreme Court that represents us and not one that represents the Pope.

This decision awakens feelings about religious intolerance that harken back generations. What a pity that the Catholics on the Supreme Court are such cowards and bigots.

FIFRA is just an excuse. Interpreted as this Court has, it should be ruled unconstitutional because it is being interpreted to violate the freedom of religion of employees across the country. I believe as a matter of faith that we should use birth control, that we should protect our environment by avoiding overpopulation. I am a Unitarian, and if you ask Unitarians, you will find that we teach our children and believe in responsible sex and admire Dorothy Sanger.

Here regarding Dorothy Sanger:

In Cleveland, Ohio, Sanger brought about the establishment of an early birth control group in 1916 and influenced the creation of the eventual PPFA affiliate, the Maternal Health Association of Cleveland, in 1923. She stopped in Cleveland in April 1916 at the start of her momentous cross-country tour to drum up support for legalized birth control. �." I spoke in the Unitarian Church in the afternoon, under the auspices of some social workers, while in the evening there was an overflow meeting arranged by a radical group. Both meetings were splendid. Since then a strong Birth Control League has been formed in Cleveland of over four hundred members, and I enclose the little paper they have just issued � the first wee voice of Birth Control in the U.S.A.� &quot MS to Charles and Bessie Drysdale, Aug. 9, 1916 [Vol. 1, p. 186; MSM S1:638].)

The historic paper Sanger refers to, The Birth Control News, published in the summer of 1916, announced the formation of the Cleveland-based Birth Control League of Ohio, launched on June 23 and inspired by Sanger�'s earlier appearance in the city. The League'�s president, a young socialist leader named Frederick Blossom, had impressed Sanger as �"polished, educated, and clever."� And the little newspaper he edited had caught her eye. Later that year she hired him as managing editor of the Birth Control Review. He turned out the first issue while Sanger served a thirty-day prison sentence resulting from her arrest for opening the Brownsville clinic in October 1916. They later had a falling out over Blossom'�s misuse of funds, a disputatious affair that distanced Sanger from the radical community. The Ohio League died out sometime the following year possibly due to a lack of leadership and an association with extreme radicals that may have frightened off more conservative interest as well as funding. (MS, Autobiography, 199.)

Sanger had far less influence on the establishment of the Maternal Health Association of Cleveland. A single event appears to have ignited efforts to create an informal maternal health group in 1920 or 1921. A Cleveland newspaper ran the story of a pregnant woman who ended her life by walking off a pier into the cold Lake Erie waters, leaving at home a disabled husband and nine children. She had been denied birth control at a prenatal clinic. As a result of this incident, two young Cleveland mothers, Dorothy Brush, who would later work closely with Sanger, and Hortense Shepard, began giving out contraceptive information as Junior League volunteers at the prenatal clinic. Their decision to provide independent advice proved untenable, and they were forced to seek an organized approach.

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/newsletter/articles/cleveland.html

Scalia is particularly despicable because he wrote such a strong defense of applying generally applicable laws in spite of religious beliefs in this case:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/494/872

Unemployment Division v. Smith.

What twisted minds.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
4. Yeap, basically for a Muslim based company to discriminate against ANYONE they just have to 1.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jun 2014

... whomever they're discriminating against has to have an "alternative" (without explaining what an alternative is)

2. The number of owners of the company have be few and the religious scope "narrow"

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