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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:14 PM Jun 2014

If you give in before you fight, you always lose. We can beat this Congress. Stop giving in to them

by arguing that "we can't get it past this Congress".

It's a loser mentality that I see all over this board.

You want to win? Pick a popular position and fight for it. Get your message out to the American people. Let them know what bills you are pushing.

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If you give in before you fight, you always lose. We can beat this Congress. Stop giving in to them (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jun 2014 OP
How do we beat SCOTUS? nt valerief Jun 2014 #1
Hobby Lobby? Medicare buy in. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #2
SCOTUS. They make the rulings paid for by the women-haters. nt valerief Jun 2014 #3
Congress still trumps SCOTUS with the right laws. randome Jun 2014 #7
We have NO CONGRESS. Zip. Nada. None. NO CONGRESS. nt valerief Jun 2014 #9
Reality is tough sometimes Politicalboi Jun 2014 #4
We'll lose 'cause we've offerered no alternative that makes clear why voters should vote Dem. Scuba Jul 2014 #10
+1000 nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #5
You do realize they didn't really save Tinkerbell by clapping, right? jeff47 Jun 2014 #6
Right. And we can't win this by not fighting. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #8
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Congress still trumps SCOTUS with the right laws.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jun 2014

"Closely held corporation", my ass! A law that specifically short-circuits that reasoning would win out. That's why it's back to Congress to right this wrong.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Reality is tough sometimes
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:27 PM
Jun 2014

We need to get people to VOTE these assholes OUT of congress in 4 months. I'm tired of hearing we already lost 2014. With ALL this craziness, how can we lose.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. We'll lose 'cause we've offerered no alternative that makes clear why voters should vote Dem.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:48 AM
Jul 2014

When was the last time you heard POTUS, or Harry Reid, or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton trumpeting the Congressional Progressive Caucus Budget?

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/back-to-work-budget/

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. You do realize they didn't really save Tinkerbell by clapping, right?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jun 2014

This:

You want to win? Pick a popular position and fight for it. Get your message out to the American people. Let them know what bills you are pushing.

is like saying you can save Tinkerbell by clapping louder.

Changing the course of the country takes quite a while. It took conservatives 50 years to get us to this point. That can not be reversed in 6 years.

So yes, fight for change. But you must be aware that you are in for a long fight, and you will have setbacks along the way.

The most important things we can do are:
1) Show up for primary elections. We utterly fail at this.
2) Start recruiting/helping/encouraging people to run for local office.

Those people in local office become the pool of candidates for statewide office. Who then become the pool for federal office. And so on.
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