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kpete

(71,961 posts) Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:23 AM Dec 2014

Tasteless, offensive and inflammatory?

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ST. LOUIS – The St. Louis Police Officers Association has released a statement condemning the St. Louis Rams football players who entered the field displaying the "hands up don't shoot" pose.

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"St. Louis, Missouri (November 30, 2014) – The St. Louis Police Officers Association is profoundly disappointed with the members of the St. Louis Rams football team who chose to ignore the mountains of evidence released from the St. Louis County Grand Jury this week and engage in a display that police officers around the nation found tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.

Read the rest & vomit:
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/11/30/stl-police-officers-association-condemns-rams-display/19721979/?hootPostID=56e4d621f410c5ee1ef0c0b0696f34f8
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/01/missouri-police-st-louis-gesture-nfl-michael-brown

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Killing an unarmed teenager is tasteless and offensive.

Murdering a child with a toy is tasteless and offensive

Protesting when this is pointed out is tasteless, offensive and inflammatory, and it is high time the police associations quit excusing murder on our streets.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/01/1348511/--Tasteless-Offensive-Inflammatory

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it gets WORSE:

Roorda said.

The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology. *Roorda said he planned to speak to the NFL and the Rams to voice his organization's displeasure tomorrow. He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be. Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours. I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/st-louis-cops-demand-rams-players-be-punished-for-tasteless-and-offensive-hands-up-dont-shoot.454314560/

and check this out:
"*Roorda" is SLPOA business manager Jeff Roorda, a former cop who was fired for repeatedly lying and falsifying reports and who now pushes his anti-transparency campaign in Missouri's legislature. You can read the full statement over at KSDK.
http://deadspin.com/st-louis-cops-declare-rams-hands-up-dont-shoot-to-be-1665003269/+laceydonohue

MORE HERE TOO:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/police-group-demands-punishment-for-players-over-hands-up-gesture

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Tasteless, offensive and inflammatory? (Original Post) kpete Dec 2014 OP

Already read it. Already vomited. Really disgusting. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #1

Just a Union representing their member Yupster Dec 2014 #2

My union would never rally around a murderer Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #4

If your Union was worth a damn, it Yupster Dec 2014 #8

Because my union is worth a damn our members don't kill people Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #12

It's a huge fucking deal. Iggo Dec 2014 #5

Uh, no. I'm a member of Unions that regularly have members in public duress of all sorts Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #9

The NFL athletes also have a union. I hope the Players' Association KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #11

it seems this simple action of these five men did more, ... than all the protests. good. they may seabeyond Dec 2014 #3

I find the shooting of an unarmed teen offensive and inflammatory ............ marmar Dec 2014 #6

It's called "closing ranks" heaven05 Dec 2014 #7

Shooting an unarmed man - TBF Dec 2014 #10

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)

1. Already read it. Already vomited. Really disgusting.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:31 AM

Dec 2014

Yupster

(14,308 posts)

2. Just a Union representing their member

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:57 AM

Dec 2014

Any Union would do the same.

Not a big deal.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)

4. My union would never rally around a murderer

Reply to Yupster (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:16 AM

Dec 2014

Members of my union do not murder people nor do we use our resources to defend murderers.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)

8. If your Union was worth a damn, it

Reply to Bjorn Against (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:47 AM

Dec 2014

would insist that its members not be called murderers until convicted of murder.

Your Union would insist its members are innocent until proven guilty.

Or your Union would be not representing its members properly.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)

12. Because my union is worth a damn our members don't kill people

Reply to Yupster (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:34 PM

Dec 2014

My union actually brought me down to Ferguson to stand in solidarity with Mike Brown's supporters. My union opposes gunning down unarmed people in the streets, we would never throw our support behind a murderer.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)

5. It's a huge fucking deal.

Reply to Yupster (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:21 AM

Dec 2014

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

9. Uh, no. I'm a member of Unions that regularly have members in public duress of all sorts

Reply to Yupster (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:00 PM

Dec 2014

and the Union itself never, ever releases statements in support or opposition of those members, be they involved in scandal, crime, unsavory speech or actions, the Union supports them professionally in relationship to employers only. They would never criticize free individuals who are in fact members of their own Union, for making a political statement. So other Unions would not do the same and it is a big deal.

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)

11. The NFL athletes also have a union. I hope the Players' Association

Reply to Yupster (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:13 PM

Dec 2014

comes out STRONGLY in support of the Rams 5. I also hope the Rams 5 gesture goes League-wide, starting with this week's games and going through the Playoffs and Superbowl.

Fuck Roorda and his death squads.

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

3. it seems this simple action of these five men did more, ... than all the protests. good. they may

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:00 AM

Dec 2014

receive repercussions, and the team as a whole. i hope they stand their ground. but, what they did was significant, especialy seeing the reaction we are getting.

marmar

(77,053 posts)

6. I find the shooting of an unarmed teen offensive and inflammatory ............

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:24 AM

Dec 2014

I rather like it when athletes take strong activist stands.

heaven05

(18,124 posts)

7. It's called "closing ranks"

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:27 AM

Dec 2014

and it is one of the major problems facing citizens and honest police officers alike. And judging by how many will attest/confirm corruption and malfeasance within their departments, there are VERY FEW officers with morals or principle, not to mention honesty. Fuck the SLPOA, big time. I find the Rams that did that as standing up to injustice.

TBF

(32,003 posts)

10. Shooting an unarmed man -

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:02 PM

Dec 2014

that is what I consider "tasteless, offensive and inflammatory". Solidarity with the five players.

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