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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:30 AM Dec 2014

All about the banks: Washington Post scolds Elizabeth Warren for “irrational” populism

All about the banks: Washington Post scolds Elizabeth Warren for “irrational” populism
12/1/2014

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren hasn’t won many media fans with her vocal opposition to investment banker Antonio Weiss’ nomination to a high-ranking Treasury Department post.

Last week, the New York Times’ Andrew Ross Sorkin lamented that by opposing Weiss’ nomination as under secretary for domestic finance, Warren was making it harder for Wall Street veterans, that perpetually persecuted and politically voiceless class, to join the public sector. This week, Warren’s position has the Washington Post editorial board clutching its pearls.

A bit of background: Weiss is currently head of global investment banking at Lazard, a firm which has advised Burger King on its merger with Canadian coffee and doughnut chain Tim Hortons, a so-called inversion that will help Burger King avoid taxes. As Warren wrote in the Huffington Post last month, it’s a bit bizarre for President Obama to nominate Weiss even as his administration attempts to crack down on inversions.

The Post’s editors aren’t having it. Not only do they share Sorkin’s view that Warren’s opposition to Weiss is wrongheaded, they suggest that it’s borderline bigotry, borne of populist “prejudice, stereotypes and resentment.” Echoing other supporters of Weiss’ nomination, the Post contends that this misunderstood banker is actually a bona fide progressive, noting that he’s called for higher taxes on the wealthy....

...In asserting that Warren opposes Weiss for merely symbolic reasons, it’s unclear if the Post simply misunderstands Warren’s position or is just being intellectually dishonest. While Warren has indeed raised concerns about the Obama administration’s over-reliance on Wall Street veterans to fill key posts, she cites two substantive concerns in laying out her stance: the oddity of nominating an international investment banker to a domestic finance post, and Weiss’ advisory role in the Burger King-Tim Hortons deal. (While Weiss supporters say he didn’t have anything to do with the tax side of the deal, Warren notes that this line of defense is ridiculous, given that the deal was fundamentally a tax deal.)

But to hear the Post tell it, Weiss is a victim who “stands accused” by “irrational,” McCarthyite populists like Warren.

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/01/all_about_the_banks_washington_post_scolds_elizabeth_warren_for_irrational_populism/


This cracks me up. Poor wall street robber barons...

Run, Liz, Run!!!!!!!!!
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All about the banks: Washington Post scolds Elizabeth Warren for “irrational” populism (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
WaHoPo helped lie America into war. Octafish Dec 2014 #1
'welcome! Is it true Amazon owner Jeff Bezos is the owner of WashPo now? RiverLover Dec 2014 #4
Mr. Bezos picked it up for $250 Million Octafish Dec 2014 #17
So not good. Amazon Prime is my cable co, I've not one but 2 kindles.... RiverLover Dec 2014 #21
WaPo oughtta be renamed "The CIA Times." Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #8
Front-line propaganda unit in Capitalism's Invisible Army Octafish Dec 2014 #18
Fuck the WashPo. Stopped reading that Wall Street propagandist newspaper years ago. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #27
Only Irrational To The 1% cantbeserious Dec 2014 #2
Exactly. RiverLover Dec 2014 #5
Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #26
Done, JD. ~nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #31
Liz and Bernie have been doing TBF Dec 2014 #3
There's more than one poster here who considers populism "irrational" hobbit709 Dec 2014 #6
This is an extremely common refrain from the apologists of the Banksters. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #7
I think we do need a financial industry, but it should not be nearly completely in charge of our JDPriestly Dec 2014 #24
"McCarthyite populists" G_j Dec 2014 #9
A Badge of Honor! Scuba Dec 2014 #10
Yeah, I feel really sorry for the poor wall street robber barons. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #11
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #12
The only cure for economic populism lovemydog Dec 2014 #13
When they squeal like a pig, you've hit a nerve. nc4bo Dec 2014 #14
You beat me to this response. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #30
I wouldn't wrap a fish in the Washington Post. It is an elitist sell out piece of garbage. kairos12 Dec 2014 #15
"sell out piece of garbage" => Antonio Weiss, bankster, thief, traitor to the country. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #32
An observant Post reader in the comments section notes that brentspeak Dec 2014 #16
Talk about conflict of interest. RiverLover Dec 2014 #22
Good catch. n/t pa28 Dec 2014 #38
In addition to Regulatory do we have Press Capture? nt One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #19
I'll Defend Warren turbinetree Dec 2014 #20
We don't need more bankers in "public service" making pro-banking, anti-consumer decisions JDPriestly Dec 2014 #23
I imagine that they also think that Glass-Stegall is McCarthyite populism. jwirr Dec 2014 #25
Oh, those poor, poor bankers.... blackspade Dec 2014 #28
Run, Liz, Run!!!!!!!!! Vincardog Dec 2014 #29
+1 closeupready Dec 2014 #33
WaPo: Steadfast defenders of corporate power. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #34
I keep picturing future students of history looking back on this time and being amazed,.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #35
It would indeed be a bit bizarre to nominate Weiss as you were cracking down Marr Dec 2014 #36
Following suit with the New York Times right on schedule. pa28 Dec 2014 #37

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. WaHoPo helped lie America into war.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:34 AM
Dec 2014

Puffing the Banksters is just icing on their cake.

And the American people wonder why the rich get richer and everybody else ust gets poor.

Thank you for the heads-up, RiverLover!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Mr. Bezos picked it up for $250 Million
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:47 PM
Dec 2014

It was a steal, for what he got. Newspapers once straightened the backbone of democracy. Now, thanks to Rupert Murdoch and his friendly competitors, they're largely (j)ust another mouthpiece for War Inc.


RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
21. So not good. Amazon Prime is my cable co, I've not one but 2 kindles....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:02 PM
Dec 2014

I buy things there ev month. I'm like an Amazon Poster-child...This will painful to cut the cord here.

Thanks for the info. I had missed this.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. Front-line propaganda unit in Capitalism's Invisible Army
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:50 PM
Dec 2014
The Mighty Wurlitzer
(the CIA's propaganda machine)


from the book

The CIAs Greatest Hits

by Mark Zepezauer

Deputy Director Frank Wisner proudly referred to the CIA's worldwide propaganda machine as "the mighty Wurlitzer." And indeed, the agency's skill at murdering people is matched only by its ability to murder the truth.

The CIA has published literally hundreds of books that spread its party line on the Cold War. It was particularly proud of The Penikovsky Papers, supposedly the memoirs of a KGB defector but actually completely ghostwritten by CIA scribes. A bit more embarrassing was Claire Sterling's book which advanced the now-discredited theory that the Russians were behind the 1981 attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II. Even the popular Fodor's Travel Guides started as a CIA front.

The CIA also owns dozens of newspapers and magazines the world over. These not only provide cover for their agents but allow them to plant misinformation that regularly makes it back to the US through the wire services. The CIA has even placed agents on guard at the wire services, to prevent inconvenient facts from being disseminated.

In 1977, famed Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein revealed that over 400 US journalists had been employed by the CIA. These ranged from freelancers who were paid for regular debriefings, to actual CIA officers who worked under deep cover. Nearly every major US news organization has had spooks on the payroll, usually with the cooperation of top management.

The three most valuable media assets the CIA could count on were William Paley's CBS, Arthur Sulzberger's New York Times and Henry Luce's Time/Life empire. All three bent over backwards promoting the picture of Oswald as a lone nut in the JFK assassination.

Among prominent journalists who've worked knowingly with the CIA are National Review founder William F. Buckley, PBS interviewer Bill Moyers, the late columnist Stewart Alsop, former Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee and Ms. magazine founder Gloria Steinem.

Bernstein's landmark article on the CIA and the media told of the agency's frantic efforts to limit Congressional inquiry into the matter, with claims that "some of the biggest names in journalism could get smeared." And while the CIA director at the time, George Bush, made a not-too-convincing show of discontinuing the agency's manipulation of the media, it's clear that the CIA regards the space between your ears as one of its most important battlefields.

CONTINUED w/links to great resources...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA%20Hits/Wurlitzer_CIAHits.html

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
5. Exactly.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:47 AM
Dec 2014

"Irrational" is wanting to appoint this guy.

In case anyone's missed it, here's what they're having a hissy fit over~

Enough Is Enough: The President's Latest Wall Street Nominee
Posted: 11/19/2014 Elizabeth Warren

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/presidents-wall-street-nominee_b_6188324.html

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. Thanks.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:18 PM
Dec 2014

Lazard moved its own headquarters from the United States to Bermuda in 2005 to take advantage of a particularly slimy tax loophole that was closed shortly afterwards. Even the Treasury Department under the Bush administration found Lazard's practices objectionable.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/presidents-wall-street-nominee_b_6188324.html

Great article by Elizabeth Warren. I recommend that all DUers read it.

Could you post it as a separate thread please? It's a really important, well written article. It needs to go as viral as it can.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
7. This is an extremely common refrain from the apologists of the Banksters.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:49 AM
Dec 2014

I could not finish reading A History of The American People by Paul Johnson because he constantly bashes (I'm roughly quoting from memory) "the common theme of Marxists and American populists who think that value only comes from land and labor and that the financial industry is parasitic".

FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE!!!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. I think we do need a financial industry, but it should not be nearly completely in charge of our
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:12 PM
Dec 2014

economy. Bankers and hedge-fund managers are not the only people who can count. Please.

Let's get some balance in the management of our economy.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
14. When they squeal like a pig, you've hit a nerve.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:31 PM
Dec 2014

You know you've hit just the right spot.

If they hate it, we should love it!

Run, Elizabeth, RUN!!!

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
16. An observant Post reader in the comments section notes that
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:46 PM
Dec 2014

Antonio Weiss also happens to be one of Post owner Jeff Bezos' investment bankers.

Funny how the Wall St. butt-kisser who wrote the op-ed (likely Fred Hiatt) failed to point that out.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
22. Talk about conflict of interest.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:04 PM
Dec 2014

Sickening how they try to manipulate us rather than inform, for profit. Thanks for info.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
20. I'll Defend Warren
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:57 PM
Dec 2014

I will defend Elizabeth Warren and her views before I defend the Washington Post.
As a prime example lets look at one George Will and his rape comments, I rest my case.
He should have been fired about his "historical comments ".
We, if we choose to read his dribble of right wing facts we are subjected to nothing more than whining editorial pages he graces in your paper.
Warren has a right to oppose a corporatist when we have people going around talking about "inversions" and then hiring someone who supports that un-American concept of greed and shifting the profits of taxes off shore or to another country and then have you (Washington Post)sniffling that Warren is saying something about this person character is she not correct in her assumption, I think so.
But these same firms this person supports and communicates with at his firm to get these tax breaks, uses our roads, street lights, police, fire houses, and other amenities, and then shifting those infrastructure costs on our backs with more burden, is alright with you, were is your transparency?
Why don't you report that fact, because your former boss may have gotten a tax break when selling the firm to Amazon for tax breaks

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. We don't need more bankers in "public service" making pro-banking, anti-consumer decisions
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:09 PM
Dec 2014

about how the country should be run.

The system has way too many bankers running the show as it is.

We need more balance in the appointments to positions that control our financial sector and our economy.

How about appointing some consumer attorneys to some of the financial positions or others who are savvy about financial issues but represent the borrowers, not the lenders, the stock purchasers, not the stock sellers, consumers, not just bankers and investment brokers and mortgage lenders, etc.

The problem is that virtually ALL the top government positions that set policies for our financial and commercial sector represent the interests of big money.

Warren is right. Weiss is just another banker too many.

And then there is the problem of what he thinks about the tax avoidance by American corporations. Here he wants to live off the tax dime as a government employee, but he helps corporations avoid paying the salaries of government employees. He needs to explain that.

His tax work is just his job. I understand that. But this appointment does look a little like appointing the fox to guard the hen house to use an old cliche.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
35. I keep picturing future students of history looking back on this time and being amazed,....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:25 PM
Dec 2014

....that it got this bad.

This is rich people and their sycophants in a vacuum. It's a private party and we are NOT invited.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
36. It would indeed be a bit bizarre to nominate Weiss as you were cracking down
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:33 PM
Dec 2014

on inversions. But it's pretty much Obama's standard operating procedure; ie, says some nice, populist things, while building the bureaucratic machinery to make sure you accomplish the opposite.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
37. Following suit with the New York Times right on schedule.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:49 PM
Dec 2014

Is it any wonder the public has long since wandered off the desert of their editorial pages in search of something interesting and newsworthy?

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