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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUSA Today: Racial gap in U.S. arrest rates: 'Staggering disparity'
When it comes to racially lopsided arrests, the most remarkable thing about Ferguson, Mo., might be just how ordinary it is.
Police in Ferguson which erupted into days of racially charged unrest after a white officer killed an unarmed black teen arrest black people at a rate nearly three times higher than people of other races.
At least 1,581 other police departments across the USA arrest black people at rates even more skewed than in Ferguson, a USA TODAY analysis of arrest records shows. That includes departments in cities as large and diverse as Chicago and San Francisco and in the suburbs that encircle St. Louis, New York and Detroit.
You can also use their interactive tool to see what the arrest rates are in your county.
Mine is:
65.2
BLACK RATE
16.8
NON-BLACK RATE
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uppityperson
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Show me a link to that as yes, I dispute it.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)A black man steals some cigars and gets shot over it.(and that's being kind to Wilson since we all know he didm't even know about the robbery at the time of the shooting.) Bankers run a scam, put millions out of their homes, collapse the economy and get bailed out to the tune of billions of our hard earned dollars, and they get another shot at it plus choice positions in the Government.
A handful of cigars vs billions in taxpayer dollars,
But hey, those uppity people commit the majority of crimes.
You could add up every robbery a black man has committed in the last 30 years and it still won't even come close to the amount stolen by rich white people.
I got news for you, crime is at it's lowest rate in 40 years. Get over yourself and your paranoid Texas fantasies.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)but most whites are murdered by whites, so Giuliani's comments were rather ridiculous.
There is no doubt that the war on drugs and the unfairness of the court system has condemned many blacks to jail. It's all there to see - the disparity in sentencing, the lack of proper representation for black defendants, etc.
However, blacks still commit violent crime at much higher rates than whites ("whites" includes all hispanics for purposes of the following U.S. government link). Blacks commit half of the murders in the country, but blacks make up only about 13 percent of the population.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls
This particular chart is for arrests and not convictions, but it's pretty likely that if a white man was identified as the murderer, it was probably a white man, and if a black man was identified as the murderer, it was probably a black man. (Whites in this report include all hispanics, as well.)
And, yes, what we know, as well, is that the black man will likely receive a harsher sentence, and the prosecution is more likely to put the wrong black man in prison than the wrong white man in prison, but it is not untrue that blacks commit murder at a higher rate than whites.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)NOT AT ALL. so, why are you purposely misreprenting the data?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Someone is desperately grasping at straws imo.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)for violent crimes, since the poster's claim is the black males commit more violent crimes. however, the murder figures alone are very high for black males.
Total Violent Crimes: White 69.4 Black 28.0
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)But I could be wrong.
But even that doesn't explain the extraordinary and VERY disproportionate of incarcerated black citizens.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Your own numbers say that whites commit the majority of crimes in America. And if you want to pretend rates matter, more white people die from white on white violence than any other race. What do we do about that?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)or cannot read. i vote #1
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)area as black on black crime. Oh, you didn't know that?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)382.1
BLACK RATE
73.7
NON-BLACK RATE
It's worse than STL County
madville
(7,404 posts)What the article doesn't account for is age. My city is 62% black and 35% white. Black people account for around 75% of all arrests in the city. On the surface it doesn't look right but the median age of the white population is significantly higher than the black population. A large portion if the white population is older people who own their homes outright and have lived in the old city neighborhoods for decades, the black population is much younger overall.
My point is younger people get arrested at a higher rate than older people so that should also be factored in since many of these cities that have experienced "white flight" out into the county and suburbs can be left with an older white population like my city, which is typically going to get arrested at a rate lower than a younger population.
I googled around briefly to see if I could find Ferguson demographic data broken down by both race and age but didn't have much luck. I would bet the median age of the non-black population is significantly higher than the black population.
That doesn't explain it all but the age of the demographic groups also plays an important role.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)More murders are committed by young men under the age of 30-ish than any other demographic. That bears out for any ethnic group or race.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)in my hometown.