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This morning, the Rude Pundit awoke as he usually does, stumbling over someone's pants while heading into the bathroom to Listerine out the lingering pot residue and genital tang of the night before from his mouth. Then he made coffee and headed into the living room at Le Chateau du Rude, determined not to turn on the MSNBC, feeling that he wasn't ready for the beady-eyed, dull masturbator stare of Joe Scarborough and the cruel dominatrix sneer of Mika Brzezezezezinski. He clicked onto the CNN, which was babbling something about the St. Louis Rams players who dared to act like they are human beings with a point of view. And, without even thinking, he clicked over to Morning Starbucks with Joe and beheld an especially keyed up Borough of Scar near tears at the pathetic people who think executed teenager Michael Brown, late of Ferguson, Missouri, is a hero.
"There are so many great people to embrace as heroes in the black community that deciding you're going to embrace a guy who knocked over a convenience store, and then according to grand jury testimony, acted in ways that would get my children shot...that's your hero? That's the reason you want to burn down black businesses?" Joey Scarboy huffed.
"The fuck?" the Rude Pundit thought. "Who thinks Michael Brown's a hero? He's a victim and a symbol, nothing more, nothing less. Don't fuckin' tell me who my heroes are, you whiny cockhead." Let's leave aside that shoplifting cigarillos and shoving a store owner is not exactly the same as knocking over a store, which, if you remember your 1950s thug movie lingo, means "robbing of all its cash."
Oh, but Joey wasn't done, not by a long shot. Michael Brown was a "thug," see, and, as such, deserves no sympathy and no place as "the face of black oppression." It should be noted that Joe Scarborough is, in fact, white, as were the other three people seated around the MSNBC morning buffet of condemnation. Of the protesters, Scar said, They might as well have come out with a flying saucer attached on all their heads in solidarity of Michael Brown being transported to Venus on a flying saucer because that happened as much as that happened." It should be noted that Mika Brzzzzzinksi sneered in response.
Joey was also pissed off about more. He was pissed off at the aforementioned footballers, who put their hands up in a gesture of solidarity with the protesters in their own town. He was pissed off at how the Cleveland cops who drove right up to a 12 year-old with a toy gun (that supposedly looked real) and shot him dead immediately are being treated poorly by the New York Times. And Joey was pissed off at his own show's guests: "You know what pisses me off too is I have people around this set all the time. They let me say what I say on set and they sit and stare at me, slack-jawed. They're afraid to say anything on the air, even though they know it's BS. People (are) saying one thing when the camera's on and then saying something completely different when the camera gets turned off, because they're somehow afraid they'll be called racist if they tell the truth." To which one can only say: Why the fuck don't you get some other guests instead of the silent sycophants?
Minion Donny Deutsch removed Scarborough's dick from his mouth just long enough to declare that he, Donny Deutsch, is "left of center," but he stands with Scarborough. "I could not agree with every word you said more passionately," Deutsch smirked. "It's not a black-white situation. It's a thug-police officer situation." Scarborough nodded approvingly and then gestured for Deutsch to shut up and put that dick back in his mouth, which Deutsch did with amazing speed and enthusiasm.
He cares about the cops, that Joey Scar. " W)ere doing such a grave disservice to police officers," he said. The Rams should apologize to the cops, the Times should apologize to the cops, shit, to Scarborough's logic, Michael Brown should apologize to Darren Wilson for not leaving behind a note saying exactly what he was doing when he turned around and moved towards the cop.
It was an amazing performance, especially the part where Joey tried to give himself credibility by talking about how he believed that George Zimmerman was a thug who shot and murdered Trayvon Martin. He wants you to know exactly where he stands: " I)n this case, if my child or your child knocked over a convenience store and then went down the middle of the street shouting profanities at a police officer, lets just say in Staten Island, in Queens, and then went into the car and started punching the police officer and grabbing for his gun, hed probably be shot in the car."
Put aside for a moment that the mention of Staten Island evokes the execution by cop of Eric Garner. Instead, what someone needs to explain to everyone who says that Michael Brown was shot dead because he tried to take the gun from a cop is that unarmed Michael Brown wasn't trying to take the gun from a cop when he was killed. He was dozens of yards away. If he had been killed while trying to take the gun, this might be an easier case. What makes those of us pissed off about this case so pissed off (yeah, just like Joey) is that when Brown headed away from the SUV, Wilson should have thought about other options. He didn't. He just shot. Ten times.
Instead of contemplating any other possible way of framing the issue, Joe Scarborough reached into his asshole and pulled out a hyperbolic number: "If I've offended anybody offended anybody by saying what I've said, trust me, 95% of America thinks just like me." Which would be true if it wasn't complete and utter bullshit.
The other white guy on the set, Mark Halperin, started to say something after he removed his nose from Scarborough's asshole, but by then the Rude Pundit had had more than his fill and went to find whiskey to put in the coffee to make it through the day.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/12/joe-scarborough-says-almost-all-of-us.html
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Lori Klausutis
You shouldn't be talking about "thugs," Joe.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)What i have seen is this
* The nature of the head trauma does not suggest an accidental death--According to a report fromAmerican Politics Journal (APJ), Dr. Michael Berkland, medical examiner, determined that Klausutis had an undiagnosed cardiac arrhythmia that caused her to faint and hit her head on a desk in Scarborough's office. Reports APJ:
There are several problems with the head injury. Generally, for a closed head injury to cause bleeding inside the skull, there is a much more severe injury on the outside of the skull. Do the autopsy notes, indeed, describe such a severe injury on the outside of the skull? In fact, the only closed head injury which usually may cause bleeding inside the skull involves a fracture of the temporal bone, with rupture of the underlying artery. The most important discrepancy that should be answered is how intracranial bleeding could continue if the cardiac arrhythmia had caused a cessation of blood flow to the brain.
* The fainting story does not add up--What is the likelihood that an apparently healthy woman, who ran marathons, would faint and hit her head on a desk in such a way that would cause death? It's pretty unlikely, our research indicates. Reports APJ:
Presumably the heart valve condition alluded to is Mitral Valve Prolapse. This may be associated with arrhythmias, but rarely with VTach (ventricular tachycardia) or VFib (ventricular fibrillation), the only arrhythmias which would stop the flow of blood to the brain.
Generally, with syncope of whatever cause the "guarding reflex," wherein one raises a hand to protect the head, is preserved.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)You cannot get an EKG on a dead person, AFAIK.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)(unless they played for the Boston Bruins)
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)If a black person like Michael Brown steals, he's a thug deserving of summary execution.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)cuz we know loud music can really get you in trouble.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Anybody who uses it to refer to a black teenager is racist as the day is long, period.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Just leave off the "criminal" part.
hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)Of course I am 68 and over the years the term began to be used as a code word for young black men.
Once I realized this I stopped using the term. It's kind of a shame as the definition worked well for me when I was describing low level criminals or members of the mob or motorcycle gang members.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But the right wing stole it and used it so they did not have to use the N word...like the Rude one pointed out.
The power they have with words is due to media...and they own it.
And I have not watched it in years...fuck them, I don't want to hear their shit propaganda.
Chemisse
(30,809 posts)I just used it the other day to refer to Darren Wilson!
Now that I know it has evolved to become a racist term, I will stop using it.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)It referred to a cult of (admittedly murderous) cultists of Kali in colonial India, the Thugees, but quickly became a British slur for Indians, and eventually in America for criminal.
arikara
(5,562 posts)but I refer to the cops as thugs all the time.
Edit to say that I didn't know that it became a racist term. It seems so appropriate for the way so many of the cops are now.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)Gothmog
(145,143 posts)He is wrong in his assessement
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Except he's not funny
snooper2
(30,151 posts)and you better RESPECT!
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)Shoplifting a pack of cigars is not the same as knocking over a convenience store. It connotes a much more serious and forceful crime and using the term inappropriately like this serves only to make Brown out to be someone deserving of his fate. And that's before you even figure in that if Wilson knew about the shoplifting or had associated Brown and his friend with it, he wouldn't have been on them about jaywalking.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)on the buttocks of humanity.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)Getting murdered just makes you dead, and ends all future opportunities, bad and good.
I worked at a convenience store for some years when I was younger and I don't have any illusions that thugs and shoplifters and bullies of various sorts exist. I was only robbed at gunpoint once, but the stores were stolen from regularly, sometimes cleverly, sometimes with intimidation involved. I never wished any of those people dead; most of them were younger and not on a good path, but I've known enough people who did stupid things in their youth, went through rough patches, behaved badly, and then grew up and changed. There's a reason we don't execute people, especially young people, for doing objectionable things. We wouldn't have much of a population left if we did. I was no saint myself - growing up isn't easy.
Scarborough is an idiot, of course. Whatever most people think of Brown, I can't believe they would have shot him in the head when he was unarmed, with his hands up. thug or not.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)+1 for a rational, mature perspective
spanone
(135,828 posts)bwahahahahahahaaa....and we've fallen for it!!!
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)spanone
(135,828 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)across the street to faux.
Chemisse
(30,809 posts)Because I am sure it is total bullshit.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)Resign, Quit,
Go over to your FIX Noise there Joe, and you will feel right wing at home, you hypocrite
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)you so need, deadinternjoe.
samsingh
(17,595 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)He is just as fucking ignorant.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And I'm pissed of at the rest of the Rams players for not joining in on the protest.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Joe must actually believe that means he's a fucking STAR and can't be fired.
Two words: Keith Olbermann.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Joey ain't NEVER gonna have that problem.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)For example, Rude Pundit tuned in to Morning Joke knowing full well the host would be ignorant and offensive.
Olbermann was let go because the corporate owners objected to his views (whereas they no doubt applaud Joe Scab).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Some of which are still allowed on Hardball as long as they treat Matthews as if he's a genius.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Johonny
(20,836 posts)and is very unlikely to be convicted of a crime now. If that cop is assumed innocent without a trial why isn't Michael Brown? Oh wait, he's black so never mind.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)He's called a murderer all over DU.
Johonny
(20,836 posts)or at least there should be. That there isn't... shows what is all about what is wrong with Joe and 24 news networks.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Intentionally conflating the sentence of a court with opinions on a message board may often (and accurately) advertise a particular nasty bias. However, I'll offer you the benefit of a doubt and simply presume you are unaware of the relevant and precise differences between court sentences and opinions.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)They came out of the woodwork like cockroaches on this.
The one thing that seems to really bother them and throw them off message is asking them if Wilson was such a good guy cop in this scenario, why did he not move the car instead of get out and chase on foot with gun drawn? Why did he not wait for back-up to arrive? Why did he not pursue the smaller Dorian Johnson? Why, if the shooting was fear motivated, did he choose the path of highest conflict? Why did he not do actual investigative police work and tail the boys until back-up arrived?
They really do not like it when alternative ways of dealing with the situation are raised that make them realize Wilson precipitated the conflict and then escalated it and did so at great risk to the community he was supposed to be defending.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)RP captures it pretty well, in all its nausea-inducing glory.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)he was entitled to due process of the law.
Due process is not a cop exacerbating a jaywalking citation to the point of an extrajudicial killing. If Brown robbed a store, pushed a clerk, jaywalked, or even punched Darren Wilson, Brown was still entitled to due process under the law to defend himself against those crimes.
kentuck
(111,080 posts)Does that make it alright to murder him?
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)Chateau du Rude, determined not to turn on the MSNBC, feeling that he wasn't ready for the beady-eyed, dull masturbator stare of Joe Scarborough and the cruel dominatrix sneer of Mika Brzezezezezinski
Cha
(297,157 posts)UPDATE: NFL will not discipline Rams players for pre-game Ferguson protest
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/01/a-tweet-or-two-180/
mahalo Rude & meegbear
Ino
(3,366 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)pettypace
(744 posts)Would a 'thug' be photographed pointing a gun at a camera?
How about flashing gang signs.
I mean he barely pushed that store clerk in the video. It was a freaking love tap!
Amazing how distorted people can make simple images of guns, drugs, violence to fit their world view.
Joe you done wrong Joe.