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reddread

(6,896 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 08:53 AM Dec 2014

Fresno California homeless problem? McClatchy paper flies in the face of facts to upsell failure

Last edited Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/12/08/4276598_fresno-one-of-nations-neediest.html?sp=/99/217/&rh=1

"The city ranked 147th out of the 150 largest cities in the United States in an analysis of data for a range of different economic and social factors. The lower the ranking, the worse off a city is in the survey.

The proportions of Fresnans who are in poverty or homeless, unemployed and on public assistance weighed heavy on the city’s ranking, which is largely based on data from 2013. Under the information considered by WalletHub, Fresno’s unemployment rate of 12.1% (reported in December 2013) ranked 146th out of 150 cities — the same ranking as the 9.8% of households in which families receive some form of public assistance such as welfare or food stamps."

of course the city voice has a different take on today's Fresno

"Standriff, the city’s director of communications, discounted the WalletHub report for using old data that he said no longer reflects Fresno’s current reality.

“We’ve seen studies like this before that use old and dated information to make conclusions without any context,” Standriff said. “Instead of focusing on a faded snapshot of Fresno’s past, we’re more interested in the news of Fresno’s continued recovery. Unemployment is at pre-recession lows, our economic outlook is improving daily and our efforts to end chronic and veterans homelessness by the end of 2015 are recognized nationally.”


they in fact may be more interested in a different news topic.
They get plenty of assistance from the McClatchy Bee there.
in recent weeks stories have been published about the high numbers of homeless schoolchildren in Fresno and nationally.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/09/10/4116464/thousands-of-school-children-homeless.html

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/11/17/4239494/child-homelessness-at-historic.html

so how do they respond to these PRECISELY documented facts and figures?

they grab poorly collected figures from a point in time where they had dispersed the homeless populations and made them
extremely hard to census.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/11/17/4237933/fresno-and-madera-counties-see.html

and print this along with the previous article. Presumably to salvage the future prospects of recently failed
State Controller candidate and still Mayor
(of the town she would not name on her Candidate bio)

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article2608718.html

the disparity between good info and bad was a little too much dissonance for the same day.

What the Bee has refused to tell Fresnan's in their paper is that the homeless won many individual settlements
a few weeks ago. Must not have been the news Swearengen needed, and one mention of those settlements
in the comments section of that article got all comments removed. isnt that something?

some older stories on this subject

http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/05/21/2397471/more-people-than-ever-homeless.html

and another puff piece for her highness, who had the largest camp of homeless you can imagine
(built up by city police keeping the homeless in that area) so she bulldozed them down
and proceeded to violate the agreements made under the Kincaid vs Fresno settlement. Putting the
taxpayers at risk for the settlements that the local paper will NOT tell anyone about?

http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/02/25/3791199/homeless-workshop-highlighted.html

all the faux noise in the world on a failing shadow of what was a decent paper DOES NOT
blind the city residents to the truth before them.

THIS is why our country cannot make traction towards recovery.
our system of information is polluted with corruption.

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Fresno California homeless problem? McClatchy paper flies in the face of facts to upsell failure (Original Post) reddread Dec 2014 OP
informed response picking nits with loaded reporting reddread Dec 2014 #1
kicking for a real issue which hasnt been resolved and the media will not cover spoonfeed or shovel reddread Dec 2014 #2
Kicking for the home of my birth. vanlassie Dec 2014 #3
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
1. informed response picking nits with loaded reporting
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 11:03 AM
Dec 2014

this was the perfect response within comments to the puff piece posted above.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/02/25/3791199/homeless-workshop-highlighted.html
Gerry Bill explains EXACTLY what it is like to be homeless and what happens when you try to utilize the "successful" city service suggestions. You get the same runaround trying to place homeless mothers with children. Meanwhile privatized providers are making bank off of every angle in the poverty pimp industry.

Mr. Hostetter:

I read your thoughts on how the issue of homelessness is "gone," in terms of being an issue that still divides the city. I think you are quite wrong about that. You are making too much out of the fact that the various advocates for the homeless in Fresno chose not to make the city's workshop into any kind of confrontation--especially when it was not announced in advance that they would even be permitted to speak to the issue. Perhaps that was a mistake on their part--if they are not confrontational at every single opportunity, people such as yourself are likely to say that the issue has gone away.

I have quite a lot of contact with the homeless and recently homeless. I know for a fact that help for them is very difficult to find. I have tried calling, on behalf of a homeless person, the 2-1-1 number touted at the city workshop on homelessness. They referred me to another number, which referred me onto someone else, and on and on through six contacts, none of which had a place for him. I contacted Poverello House on a Wednesday, saying I had someone who needed housing that night. They told me to have him check back on Monday, five days later, to see if there was a place at that time. Where was he supposed to go in the meantime? Then, if it turned out they had no room on Monday, where was he supposed to go then? Another individual told me that he tried getting overnight housing at the Rescue Mission. He was told he would need to commit to a one-year treatment program in order to stay there. This is an individual who does not use drugs or alcohol at all. Was he supposed to pretend to have a drug problem in order to get a place to stay and then to go through a one-year treatment for a problem he does not have? I also know a homeless couple that has applied for subsidized housing; they have been on a waiting list for several months. The city offers such people no intermediate place to stay until permanent housing can be arranged (a practice soundly criticized in a Fresno Bee editorial a few months ago).
My biggest concern is with your comments about safe and legal campgrounds. Your argument seems to be that because a murder occurred at an illegal campground in Fresno, the same thing would have happened if it had been an organized and legal campground. That's a huge leap of logic. Most safe and legal campgrounds have a single, controlled point of access and who comes and goes is carefully monitored. That helps prevent outside criminals from coming into the camps and preying on the vulnerable people living there, which was what was happening in the three Fresno encampments you mention (but was not happening much at the Canal Bank encampment, which was also demolished). Safe and legal campgrounds do work well in some other cities, and the residents there are not murdered in their sleep.
Safe and legal campgrounds are not the only alternative. Other kinds of transitional housing can be provided, and that is done in some other cities. Something needs to be done to fill the huge gap between sleeping on the streets and moving into permanent housing. There are likely thousands of people in Fresno at the moment needing a temporary place to stay. An in-between place for them needs to be created so that they have some place to stay until permanent housing comes through for them."

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
2. kicking for a real issue which hasnt been resolved and the media will not cover spoonfeed or shovel
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:33 PM
Dec 2014

those shiny objects are not the ball.
kill your keyboards and kick some ass.

vanlassie

(5,666 posts)
3. Kicking for the home of my birth.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

Fresno. Where below average is "good enough. If I want to see something pretty, I'll go to Carmel."

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