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Bush has said that his WH was "not informed" about CIA methods and didn't approve them all. Cheney has emerged from his cave to snarl to the contrary that Bush's claim was "hooey" and "a crock".
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/world/dismissing-senate-report-cheney-defends-cia-interrogations.html?_r=0
Dismissing Senate Report, Cheney Defends C.I.A. Interrogations
By PETER BAKERDEC. 8, 2014
WASHINGTON Former Vice President Dick Cheney offered a full-throated defense of the Central Intelligence Agency on Monday, arguing that its harsh interrogations of terrorism suspects a decade ago were absolutely, totally justified and dismissing a new Senate report criticizing them.
Mr. Cheney, who was a vocal champion of those techniques after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has never accepted the widespread description of them as torture, said he had not read the report that the Intelligence Committee is expected to release on Tuesday. But from news reports about it, he said he had heard nothing to change his mind about the wisdom and effectiveness of the program.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney defended the C.I.A. on Monday, saying that its harsh interrogations a decade ago were absolutely, totally justified.White House and Republicans Clash Over C.I.A. Torture ReportDEC. 8, 2014. What I keep hearing out there is they portray this as a rogue operation and the agency was way out of bounds and then they lied about it, he said in a telephone interview. I think thats all a bunch of hooey. The program was authorized. The agency did not want to proceed without authorization, and it was also reviewed legally by the Justice Department before they undertook the program.
Mr. Cheney said he never thought the C.I.A. was withholding information from him or the White House about the nature of the program, nor did he think the agency exaggerated the value of the intelligence gained from waterboarding and other techniques. The reported conclusion by the Senate Intelligence Committee that the C.I.A. misled the White House, he added, is just a crock. more...
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)And when he's claiming his crimes in public is one of them.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)that he has passed from this existence to, I really do hope, eternal pain and suffering somewhere.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)this is what I imagine, the various ways of punishment for Cheney instead of counting sheep.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Presidential Freedom Medal!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)a frog march, starring Darth Cheney, along with the rest of the Bush Crime Syndicate.
I can dream, can't I?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)he knows it's bullshit.
STFU Cheney, go back in your hole.
And, btw, take Giuliani with you-- he's sounding annoying senile, too.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That man is the most evil VP who ever controlled the presidency in the history of the nation.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Feelings, not so much.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)trusty elf
(7,385 posts)That's how I can tell this pic is photoshopped!
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HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)getting caught implies knowing you're guilty
This is all I am trying to communicate....Cheney is striking out at the world in anger because he's upset about getting caught.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)He's trying to divert attention.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)President Numnuts.
Bush the 2nd isn't smart enough to tell a lie on his own. He was always more a mouthpiece/figure head for Darth . . . who was completely unelectable as a President.
TBF
(32,047 posts)and the lying scumbags always do ...
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)malaise
(268,925 posts)I'm lovin' it.
H2O Man
(73,534 posts)almost pleasant about seeing old Dick Cheney arguing to justify what everyone knows was criminal and immoral.
malaise
(268,925 posts)Nothing will change that fact
B Calm
(28,762 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)underpants
(182,768 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)is how proud they are of evil shit they've done. Hell, that sounds like a public confession to me.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)joshdawg
(2,647 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)He knows that Obama will do nothing to him and takes full advantage of that fact. The only telling thing that shows concern for what they did is the fact that they will not go out of the country, unless it is to an extremely good friend of the U.S. like Great Britain or Canada.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Cheney says no, and that's ok during wartime (which is "all the time"
We say no, and we have to fix that somehow. And we don't want war all the time.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Is when he keeps saying how awful he really is. He is not senile, he is just evil and not ashamed to admit it.
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)...opens slowly
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Have jurisdiction of the United States. The only justice we will see is if our own Justice Department or Congress does something. Otherwise nothing can be done. One thing they could do is throw us out of the UN but that would destroy it completely. So our country will need to do something.
Cirque du So-What
(25,927 posts)I sold you and you sold me.
Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)Regardless of whether "enhanced interrogation techniques' produced any valuable intelligence, Cheney loves torture for its intrinsic value.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)else would amuse an old goat more?
We need to give him what he wants, and no bail on arrest, that is necessary now.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)3catwoman3
(23,972 posts)...shit. I hope his new heart did not come from a Democrat.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)You know, one they grabbed off the street in some unsuspecting backwater country.
underpants
(182,768 posts)He just publicly admitted that he is guilty
babylonsister
(171,056 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And that is fine with you.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Both of em.
Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)I would not trust anything he or W said ever.
This this supposed to be a CYA? Sorry Darth, won't work. Not for you, your buddy W, Rummy or the rest of your slimy bunch!
Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)it was a willful failure to know.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Just sayin.'
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He is hiding behind "it was also reviewed legally by the Justice Department"
Gonzalez, Addison ad John Yoo should be in the prisoner's dock also.
Maybe if the blow back gets bad enough, Cheney will give them up.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)No need for any information from him. Just give him what he signed off on for others.
Mad-in-Mo
(229 posts)is a paragon of truth telling. Not.
Malraiders
(444 posts)If you can stomach how low they grovelled to cover their war crimes and killings of the people who they self righteously spoke of their dedication to upholding the ideas of freedom and liberty.
See the horror and the shame the Bush Team embraced.
UTUSN
(70,681 posts)What I see in this link is Shrub denying the report's conclusions. Don't get me wrong, I want to believe the "under the bus" thing.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)And "just following orders" won't cut it.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)need to have a major and very public fight about this.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Tends to happen when you give inhuman assholes a free pass for Crimes Against Humanity.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Great. Maybe we will get all the facts and truth out at last.
sarisataka
(18,600 posts)When he was SECDEF my impression was that he was an extremely arrogant person who considered himself above other people and their laws.
I have no doubt in his mind everything was justified and simply because his office included the word Vice- in the title in no way changed the fact that HE was the White House.
As for 'W', never met him but he seems to have as much spine as a jello salad. Cheney would run roughshod over him and 'W' would say 'thank you'
louis-t
(23,292 posts)Cheney should be the first one to go on trial then.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)if only because he was a ceremonial figurehead sort of guy, and not the driving force behind anything consequential in his administration.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)he might just find himself suicide.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)cold heart. I bet he could zap poor little Dick Cheney via his IPone. Personally, I want little Dick Cheney to live a long time in a cell. George Bush should be dressed up with a tee shirt with a big face of Mohammed on the front and back and turned loose in Iraq and told to run for it.