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Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 11:44 AM Dec 2014

Let me get this straight, re: the suddenly acceptable racial slur


"Silly people! White people aren't oppressed, so it's perfectly acceptable to oppress them by applying a slur!"

Is that pretty much the size of it? Because that makes NO sense whatsoever. All it does is legitimize slurs.

But don't listen to me...I'm just a stupid cracker.
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Let me get this straight, re: the suddenly acceptable racial slur (Original Post) Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 OP
link? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #1
A lot twisted panties here... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #2
Thanks for the link. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #5
seriously. uppityperson Dec 2014 #30
You aren't supposed to say "twisted panties" or "panties in a wad" it is sexist and in some cases snooper2 Dec 2014 #12
I shall wear my alert proudly. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #13
I always thought that annabanana Dec 2014 #3
Words in and of themselves don't oppress people gollygee Dec 2014 #4
Words, no AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #14
No gollygee Dec 2014 #17
Racial slurs don't have to 'oppress' AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #18
Sexism is a form of oppression. Lancero Dec 2014 #76
Not of racial oppression. gollygee Dec 2014 #77
I'm listening to you JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #6
The general approach to slurs lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #7
I agree. cyberswede Dec 2014 #10
I'm not an entirely disagreeable fellow. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #28
+1 nt Zorra Dec 2014 #11
Who called you a stupid cracker? Link? morningfog Dec 2014 #20
Are you saying that I am the good kind of white person... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #24
I asked who called you a cracker. I have no idea what kind of white person you are. morningfog Dec 2014 #32
Set aside the slur for the moment. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #35
The thread was about crackers infiltrating, not white people. morningfog Dec 2014 #39
"Too many crackers in our society who are indifferent" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #43
Indifferent racist crackers. morningfog Dec 2014 #73
you are creating your own definition of the word Mosby Dec 2014 #74
Well, clearly not, since you're outraged Recursion Dec 2014 #8
Are racial slurs ever acceptable? AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #15
Some of my favorite comedians use them. (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #16
No doubt, you can find a cross to hang from in comfortable and complacent martyrdom on Amazon. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #9
Cracker is not a slur, settle down. morningfog Dec 2014 #19
White people aren't oppressed by it treestar Dec 2014 #21
craik: Gaelic for "chat" KamaAina Dec 2014 #22
I thought a "cracker" was just a person from Georgia? Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #69
Actually, the term is probably in widest use in Florida KamaAina Dec 2014 #70
And at last! The word 'cracker' comes from craik and as 'cracker' is found in Shakespeare among Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #75
It's a slur, not oppression in and of itself. n/t Orsino Dec 2014 #23
"Traditionally" white U.S.A. is a racist, apartheid, mean-spirited nation. hunter Dec 2014 #25
Your post is a good reason to add you to my ignore list upaloopa Dec 2014 #27
Heh. I'm a white male who grew up in a 99.44 % pure white community. hunter Dec 2014 #29
Extremely apt reference tkmorris Dec 2014 #31
It doesn't matter where the statement originates upaloopa Dec 2014 #38
Group Guilt? Really? hunter Dec 2014 #42
You deal in absolutes and blanket statements. upaloopa Dec 2014 #47
Read my journal and search my posts here on DU. hunter Dec 2014 #57
How old are you just asking. upaloopa Dec 2014 #63
I'm a decade younger than you. hunter Dec 2014 #72
How big??? bravenak Dec 2014 #58
More than big enough to most people who have seen me naked in warmer waters. hunter Dec 2014 #61
Oooh la la!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #62
the world YOU write about there hfojvt Dec 2014 #45
So I've figured... hunter Dec 2014 #50
If you apply the definition of racism and upaloopa Dec 2014 #26
Cracker is just another way of saying "poor white trash". Xithras Dec 2014 #33
Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick half my ancestor are whites fleeing Europe, "poor white trash." hunter Dec 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #34
In what universe is calling a white person a cracker "oppressing" them? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #36
I'm now convinced it's not at all, and in fact is a perfectly good substitute for "white." Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #37
You are making progress. Now, let's move on to honkey. morningfog Dec 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #44
Good. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #53
Now I can focus on the crackers running in 2016. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #54
There ya go. That's the spirit! HappyMe Dec 2014 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #68
Too bad you merely gave-in rather than attempted to understand historical and social context. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #67
Cracker (pejorative) cpwm17 Dec 2014 #46
Thanks, but I'm familiar with the definition. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #51
It's about hate cpwm17 Dec 2014 #66
it's like that time straight people were oppressed with the word breeder La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #79
well look what happened after that - them gays took all the marriage rights Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #81
and "I am just a dumb colonist" hfojvt Dec 2014 #41
Last line really nailed it! ieoeja Dec 2014 #49
Well, when one thread goes down, that's cause to start another, equally breathless one Scootaloo Dec 2014 #52
Being both boring and predictable. Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #55
I'm sorry, I consider it an apt term for people like Cliven Bundy, Ted Nugent, lots Hoyt Dec 2014 #56
So this is a thread about racism against white people? SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #60
It is a slur. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #64
I'm 3/4 white and I don't find the term cracker offensive. To me a cracker is just a saltine. Louisiana1976 Dec 2014 #65
I was born a cracker in central Florida Warpy Dec 2014 #78
if every third post of yours wasn't an attempt to show that people of color, and especially alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #71
What Eleanor Roosevelt had to say about this... HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #80
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
5. Thanks for the link.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:15 PM
Dec 2014

It explains why there are no new posters on the new posters list on the main page.

Mirt must be busy.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. You aren't supposed to say "twisted panties" or "panties in a wad" it is sexist and in some cases
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:46 PM
Dec 2014

homophobic-

FYI

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
3. I always thought that
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:03 PM
Dec 2014

the term was referencing ignorance more than race. But I'm a northern gal so I may not have the nuances.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
4. Words in and of themselves don't oppress people
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:04 PM
Dec 2014

Words that are part of a history of oppression, in that context, can be a part of the oppression.

But a word doesn't have that power without society giving it that power, and society hasn't given "cracker" that power, because the group against whom it is used as a slur is also the group that actually has the overwhelming majority of power.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. No
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:14 PM
Dec 2014

Racial slurs are words, and words in and of themselves have no power unless they're in a context of oppression. The vast majority of power in this country belongs to white people. White people are not oppressed.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
18. Racial slurs don't have to 'oppress'
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:15 PM
Dec 2014

You made that up. They disparage people based upon their skin color, which is racist.

Lancero

(2,984 posts)
76. Sexism is a form of oppression.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:38 PM
Dec 2014

So does this mean that white women aren't victims of oppression?

This is the issue, really, when trying to say a group is free of oppression. Oppression comes in many diffrient varities. The poor are oppressed. Women are oppressed. People of colors are oppressed. LGBT persons are oppressed. Given how so many groups interlink it's impossible for one specific group to be completely free of it.

JustAnotherGen

(31,688 posts)
6. I'm listening to you
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:23 PM
Dec 2014

On that thread - for me?

The 'message' got lost with the word.

Because he had a REALLY good message - but when you use your words wrong - that's what happens.


I made the suggestion early in the thread that the edit it out. Because his point was gonna get lost -

And it has been.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
7. The general approach to slurs
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:24 PM
Dec 2014

If the people at which it is directed object - we probably shouldn't use it.

It seems to me that it shouldn't be so tough to comply.

Personally, I prefer to be addressed in terms other than "stupid cracker". Since I comply with the general etiquette, I think it's reasonable to ask that others reciprocate.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
10. I agree.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

While I agree with gollygee that a term associated with a group that hasn't been historically oppressed doesn't have the power that a term directed toward an historically oppressed group has, I wholeheartedly agree that if the people on the receiving end of a term object to it, we shouldn't use it.

I learned that on DU, with regard to other words that many people don't find offensive, but some do.

Feels weird to agree with you.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
24. Are you saying that I am the good kind of white person...
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:44 PM
Dec 2014

And therefore not one of those crackers?

Thanks, I guess

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
32. I asked who called you a cracker. I have no idea what kind of white person you are.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:50 PM
Dec 2014

I know that when I hear someone use the word cracker, I have no reason to assume I am being called a cracker.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
35. Set aside the slur for the moment.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:58 PM
Dec 2014

The context of the now self-deleted thread was that white people are "infiltrating" police departments and that is why police will never be less brutal than they are.

35 years ago, I worked with a guy from Atlanta who tried to explain to me that the N word wasn't a racist term, because it was about behavior. "I know lots of N_______, and a bunch of them are white!"

The term has a well known definition, and whether or not you think they're talking about you is irrelevant. There was nothing about the usage that suggested any intent other than the common use e.g. "white people" in general.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
39. The thread was about crackers infiltrating, not white people.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:37 PM
Dec 2014

But, it sounds like you identify as a cracker or at least sufficiently so to take offense.

Crackers are white racists. It isn't about behavior, it is about asshole white racists. I don't think there are black crackers, but I don't think all white people are crackers. I think only a racist cracker would take offense at the term cracker. Someone who already has a problem with African-Americans would likely get worked up is one dared to call them a cracker.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
43. "Too many crackers in our society who are indifferent"
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

No. It was about crackers, like you and me, some of whom are racists.

Mosby

(16,168 posts)
74. you are creating your own definition of the word
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:12 PM
Dec 2014

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a usually derogatory term for white people,[1] especially poor rural whites in the Southern United States. In reference to a native of Florida or Georgia, however, it is sometimes used in a neutral or positive context or self-descriptively with pride (see Florida cracker and Georgia cracker).[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29

crackers as "white racists" is just something you made up.

Why?


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Well, clearly not, since you're outraged
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:24 PM
Dec 2014

So, no, it's not "acceptable" in that it pisses you off.

Next question?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. No doubt, you can find a cross to hang from in comfortable and complacent martyrdom on Amazon.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:34 PM
Dec 2014

How precisely, as a target of that word, am I being oppressed or minimized? I could do some ethical contortions worthy of an acrobat to pretend to be offended by this most benign pejorative, but as so many already engage in that melodramatic pretense, it would simply be "a very little, little let us do and all shall be done..."

Fishing for an offense is convenient for scoring points... as we'll always find one-- even in places where they do not exist. No doubt, you can find a cross to hang from in comfortable and complacent martyrdom on Amazon.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. White people aren't oppressed by it
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:19 PM
Dec 2014

It actually illustrates white privilege quite well.

Put yourself in the shoes of a black person being called the N word.

Being called a cracker is nothing like that.

It's how comedian Eddie Murphy could get away with singing "Kill all the white people" and have white people laughing their asses off at that. I remember him doing this poem "I hate white people" and laughing. We know it's not a threat. Whereas there is no way to make the opposite funny, as it contains a threatening element.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
22. craik: Gaelic for "chat"
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:20 PM
Dec 2014

The Scots Irish who settled the South told many a tall tale. Hence "craikers", now "crackers".

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
75. And at last! The word 'cracker' comes from craik and as 'cracker' is found in Shakespeare among
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:31 PM
Dec 2014

other older words and it is used to mean a bellicose rustic, a gas bag hick. A cracker comes from the country and talks shit. The Georgia and Florida ranchers used it and it was applied to them for just those reasons.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
25. "Traditionally" white U.S.A. is a racist, apartheid, mean-spirited nation.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:56 PM
Dec 2014

People are understandably angry about that.

And no, I don't often listen to you, Dreamer Tatum. The world you write about doesn't seem real to me.

If it truly exists somewhere I've always been an outsider.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. Your post is a good reason to add you to my ignore list
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:09 PM
Dec 2014

We all do not fit your self serving bigoted description of white people. It offends me.
As far as I am concerned you don't even belong in an honest discussion about the issue of racism. You remind me of Malcolm X before his trip to Mecca.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
29. Heh. I'm a white male who grew up in a 99.44 % pure white community.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:29 PM
Dec 2014

A sturdy handsome fellow with Nordic features, tall, blond hair, blue eyes, a big dick, and a wicked sense of humor. Captain America material.



But I was one who walked away from Omelas.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
38. It doesn't matter where the statement originates
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:19 PM
Dec 2014

It still can be bigoted. I think a lot of white people have indulged in a kind of group guilt complex since the police shootings have been the main issue of the day.
Those who want to continue the name calling will never get to a solution of the problem. Only those of all races working together will be effective.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
42. Group Guilt? Really?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:53 PM
Dec 2014

"Races?" That's even worse, but God Forbid I ever pretend to be "colorblind."

Oppression of "colored" people by "white" people is an awful reality.



upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
47. You deal in absolutes and blanket statements.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014

Very dramatic but useless when it comes to solving a problem.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
57. Read my journal and search my posts here on DU.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:01 PM
Dec 2014

I'm much much too lazy for convenient fictions, absolutes, and blanket statements.

I write about my life as I experience it.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
63. How old are you just asking.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:31 PM
Dec 2014

I was born white in 1946 in Ohio. That was a year before Truman integrated the military services.
In Dayton Ohio where I grew up the African American community was called the west side because it was west of Main Street.
Segregation and racism was the norm when I grew up. My mom showed me a picture of a boarding house on the west side on Home Ave, where she lived before she married my dad. It was an integrated house. She also showed me a picture of her Black house mates.
My mom did not teach us to be racists. She taught us just the opposite. My dad was a factory worker and as such he had a lot of peer pressure to be a racist but he never taught us to be racist. The only thing I can remember my dad saying that was racist was to tell me to turn off the (n word) music I liked to play. I loved Soul, Motown and what was called back then "race music."
Our house was egged because my dad would not contribute to buy a house on our block that was being sold to a Black family.
I can go on but it isn't necessary.
I never learned racism and to many on this board I probably would be told I am full if shit.
I just like to point out as Malcolm X pointed out that we aren't all devils. We can have empathy and can help the situation as we did in the sixties. We can never live in a Black skin or know what that is like.
This is not post racial America but I remember the 50's and 60's and there has been progress but it has been slow. I did not know anything about life in Ferguson until Michael Brown was killed. That shows how bad it really is.
I think we need to stop centering on labels and generalities. I don't think those posts get us anywhere.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
72. I'm a decade younger than you.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 06:07 PM
Dec 2014

One of my great grandmas fled Ohio with her husband to the wild west because matriarchy was no longer acceptable there.

The men in my family tend to be the dreamers and the women are hard.



My great grandmas were all Wild West like that.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
26. If you apply the definition of racism and
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:01 PM
Dec 2014

prejudice to posts here on DU ignoring the race of the poster or the intended receiver of the post we let a lot of bad things go.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
33. Cracker is just another way of saying "poor white trash".
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:50 PM
Dec 2014

Whether you consider one a slur largely depends on whether you consider the other a slur. For nearly all of its history, the word "cracker" has been used to refer to poor rural whites, especially in the south. Rednecks, hicks, hillbillies, poor white trash, crackers...they all mean the same thing.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
48. Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick half my ancestor are whites fleeing Europe, "poor white trash."
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:44 PM
Dec 2014

My dad's family was hiding the radical Irish Catholic, a few steps ahead of the English hangman immigrants, and my mom's family was hiding heretic Catholic and Jewish immigrants.

They hit the ground running for the American Wild West in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

Many of my wife's family "arrived" here via Canada and Mexico, a generation or two after things got too hot for them here in Protestant U.S.A., as uppity native Americans and gone-AWOL Irish and French Catholics.

I'm a white humanist Catholic heretic of Jesuit and Orthodox Christian San Francisco. I won't ever apologize for that,

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
36. In what universe is calling a white person a cracker "oppressing" them?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:01 PM
Dec 2014

Honestly. I'm curious to find out how the word is oppressive.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
37. I'm now convinced it's not at all, and in fact is a perfectly good substitute for "white."
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:08 PM
Dec 2014

I give in.

Cracker good. Good cracker.

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #37)

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
54. Now I can focus on the crackers running in 2016.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:56 PM
Dec 2014

Cracker Clinton or Cracker Warren?

Hard to decide. Two qualified crackers.

Oh well. The primary process will winnow out the superior cracker. But another candidate may get the nomination
after all. Maybe even another cracker.

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #54)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
67. Too bad you merely gave-in rather than attempted to understand historical and social context.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:43 PM
Dec 2014

Too bad you merely gave-in rather than attempted to understand historical and social context. But, with the latter being much more difficult than the convenience of the former, I understand why you chose the one over the other.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
46. Cracker (pejorative)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29

It's a pejorative used against white people. If you find this perfectly acceptable, I don't know what to say. It certainly won't attract many new members here or gain the Democratic Party many votes when it is openly used on a site call Democratic Underground.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
51. Thanks, but I'm familiar with the definition.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:50 PM
Dec 2014

What I would like to have an answer to is exactly how that is oppressive to whites.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
66. It's about hate
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:42 PM
Dec 2014

We shouldn't promote hate, especially for something one has no control over and shouldn't be ashamed of. Anyone can be harmed if they are subjected to hate and the hater can be harmed also.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
79. it's like that time straight people were oppressed with the word breeder
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:52 PM
Dec 2014

insulting, sure. oppressive, no fucking way.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
81. well look what happened after that - them gays took all the marriage rights
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 10:26 PM
Dec 2014

and now there aren't enough to go around anymore so all the breeders have to turn gay or marry their dogs. We warned everyone this would happen. But no. You had to elect Obama. Twice. There are no crackers in my house because GLUTEN! I hate this gluten thing.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
41. and "I am just a dumb colonist"
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:50 PM
Dec 2014

"perfectly acceptable to oppress them by applying a slur"

See, the thing is, the amount of "oppression" actually created by this particular slur is so negligbly small that it is highly ludicrous to even attach the word "oppression" to it. Might as well be oppressed by that micro-meteorite that just landed on my head. It's like crying that anther kid just threw a dust bunny at you.


SNL did a skit once where a guy was doing stand up comedy in a bar - in 1775. He was cracking jokes about Redcoats and King George, then three redcoats come in, carrying guns with sabres and sit down at a table. As he continues his routine, they start grumbling and rattling their sabres. Finally one gets up and starts walking toward him.

So he modifies his joke, adding "But what do I know? I am just a dumb colonist." At which line the redcoats burst out laughing. And the skit fades with him using that line again and again as the redcoats pound on the table laughing.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
56. I'm sorry, I consider it an apt term for people like Cliven Bundy, Ted Nugent, lots
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:59 PM
Dec 2014

of folks I went to school with in the deep South, a lot of TPartiers, etc. I'll try not to use the term in mixed company, but ain't makin any promises.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
60. So this is a thread about racism against white people?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014



Sorry, normally I have to go to Fox to get my "poor oppressed white guy" fix.

Is the next thread gonna be about the oppression of Christians?

Behind the Aegis

(53,833 posts)
64. It is a slur.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:35 PM
Dec 2014

Sadly, because people equate "wrongness" with who has or doesn't have power, when the slur is applied to those with power, it 'magically' becomes non-offensive. To me, this is no different than someone calling a non-gay person a "breeder." Does that word carry the same gravitas as calling someone a "fag" or a "dyke" (or hundreds of alternate words)? No, it doesn't, but like "faggot" or "dyke", the word "breeder" is used as a disparaging remark against someone because of his/her perceived/real sexual orientation; the same holds true for "cracker" which is used to belittle someone because of his/her skin color. Just because someone is "white" or "straight" doesn't mean they are immune from being victimized by a slur which targets their race or sexual orientation, even if it isn't as "weighted" as those used against minorities.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
78. I was born a cracker in central Florida
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:51 PM
Dec 2014

and I laugh that one off. In fact, I laugh most slurs off unless some pimple of an adolescent troll is using really harsh sexual slurs to force me offline. It can't be done, sonny, I used to try to make perverts hang up on me back in the obscene phone call days and most of the time I succeeded. My mother used an air horn. I used descriptions of what was going to happen to Wee Willie Winkie.

So please don't include me in the rush to ban all mild pejoratives and most descriptive language.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
71. if every third post of yours wasn't an attempt to show that people of color, and especially
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014

African Americans, are "wrong" about something, this little protest of yours would be slightly more credible.

Just sayin', homey.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
80. What Eleanor Roosevelt had to say about this...
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 08:02 PM
Dec 2014

Little minds talk about other people.
Average minds talk about events.
Great minds talk about ideas.

The lesson? Ad hominem attacks offensive to either "us" or "them" just make your mind look little.

I KNOW DUers are actually bigger than little minds, I just wish all of them would demonstrate that.

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