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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator compares CIA's actions to 'war crimes'
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/226427-sen-on-intel-committee-calls-cia-report-chillingSen. Angus King (I-Vt.) on Tuesday said the Senate Intelligence Committees controversial report on enhanced interrogation will reveal "chilling" information and compared the techniques that were used to war crimes.
We did things, Alisyn, that we tried Japanese soldiers for war crimes for after World War II, he told the host of CNNs New Day, Alisyn Camerota.
This is not America, this is not who we are, and what was done has diminished our stature and inflamed terrorists around the world.
(snip)
King rejected that argument and said that the heart of the report shows that the methods didnt produce solid leads.
Did we torture people? Yes, he said. Did it work? No.
(end snip)
Why would you waterboard anyone 183 times?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)4139
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(1,893 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)Yeah, well, living through that era in a right-wing community that was loaded with military men and women, I can say that I don't think that even in the advent of this report it will change their minds. They were out for blood and were convinced that their commanding chief, George Bush, could do no wrong,
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)Meant well but who is he kidding?
Bandit
(21,475 posts)It has become quite obvious that there is no line that can't be crossed to insure their rabid paranoia is soothed. They are basically COWARDS of the very nth degree
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)King should stop being so sanctimonious.
moonbeam23
(304 posts)i hope...
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)America has a long and checkered history, probably starting before indians were given smallpox but that's the first one I know of.
Torture wasn't about getting information. It was about appearing to "do whatever it takes" to protect the country - appearing, not doing. So torture was a PR stunt. The same can be said about the TSA.
onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)Elderly, veterans and unemployed.
We profit from mile high debt on student loans. We refuse healthcare to millions who are desperately poor because of the skin color or the POTUS. We allow the police to kill men in cold blood on the sidewalk in broad daylight without consequence. If you don't think torture is who we are you're not paying attention.
we are exceptional, after all
"...this is not who we are..."
Really? It could only seem so if you haven't been paying attention since well before Bush II was re-elected. Well before.
It seems like an eternity since I first asked myself, is this how it feels to be a citizen of a rogue superpower?
tclambert
(11,080 posts)malaise
(267,838 posts)He was excellent
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)deminks
WHAT CIA DID - was WAR CRIMES - AND THE Guilty ones - from the ones ordering the torture - to the men and women who did the crimes should be arrested - interrogated (using standard methods of course) - and then put on trial - and convicted of war crimes against humanity - and then, for the rest of their natural life - live in a SMALL place just enough for them to stand for 8 hours a day - and then to lie down and sleep - and then be awaken again when roll call is up every morning - at 5 in the morning - every day - all day every year to the day they die...
And then -the ashes of their remains should be thrown out over the sea - the pacific sound like a great place to dump their remains and their names should be shamed for the rest of history - in fact the truth about them should be lectured in high school or at the university/College level education - to warn young adults about what could happened if you let criminals in the government...
Diclotican
albino65
(484 posts)Referencing the trial of Adolf Eichmann, Simon Wiesenthal once said: "The world now understands the concept of 'desk murderer'. We know that one doesn't need to be fanatical, sadistic, or mentally ill to murder millions; that it is enough to be a loyal follower eager to do one's duty."* Eichmann's defense was that he was merely following orders. Everyone who has been in the military knows that you are not required to obey an illegal order.
*Nazi Hunter:The Wiesenthal File , by Alan Levy
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Because the sadists get a thrill from it, and apparently they were in charge.
sinkingfeeling
(51,279 posts)Geneva Conventions.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They were trying to get him to admit he kidnapped the Lindberg baby.
bhikkhu
(10,708 posts)Its odd that some people think they must not be war crimes because we did them, and of course we aren't a people that commit war crimes. Its quite easy to turn that corner.