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Mike Niendorff

(3,447 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:48 PM Dec 2014

Credit where credit is due : John McCain on Senate torture report

I am not a fan on John McCain. But his remarks on the torture report are worthy of respect and recognition. It would have been easy for him to engage in blind apologetics. He did not. Respect where respect is due.

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Credit where credit is due : John McCain on Senate torture report (Original Post) Mike Niendorff Dec 2014 OP
nope. can't do it. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #1
That's only because he was a POW and felt it first hand. Cleita Dec 2014 #4
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2014 #2
In this particular instance, I tend to agree. (nt) pinto Dec 2014 #3
Senator McCain did the honorable thing on this. His remarks on this report only made it Autumn Dec 2014 #5
Why - what has he been saying about it? "I'm troubled"? closeupready Dec 2014 #6
CNN has the video from the senate floor Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #14
Thx for that - I'll watch when I can later. closeupready Dec 2014 #17
Let the butt covering begin. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #7
McCain is himself a victim of torture. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #8
John is just covering his ass, as usual. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #9
He himself suffered torture. mylye2222 Dec 2014 #10
But he still supported Bush and Cheney nichomachus Dec 2014 #11
Torture affected him personally Martin Eden Dec 2014 #12
Actually, I've personally found that "empathy" is best learned through experience. Glassunion Dec 2014 #20
I agree with the distinction between "empathy" and "sympathy" Martin Eden Dec 2014 #21
Agreed Glassunion Dec 2014 #22
mccain will be going against the grain with his party....they will ignore him. spanone Dec 2014 #13
The one subject on which he actually gets mavericky. Orsino Dec 2014 #15
Fuck John McCain. Iggo Dec 2014 #16
broken clock is correct twice a day--he manned up dembotoz Dec 2014 #18
He's going to distract the public from Obamacare! cyberswede Dec 2014 #19
 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
1. nope. can't do it.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:50 PM
Dec 2014

I don't understand how when a shitbag that does nasty shitty things as a habit, might do something half decent and is elevated onto some platform of appreciation.

nope. can't do it. fuck off McCain. right off the planet you warmongering asshole. bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran - what kind of person would say this? And this is only one tiny example of tomes of records similar.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. That's only because he was a POW and felt it first hand.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:55 PM
Dec 2014

It doesn't make him less the crazy old coot that he is. It's how sociopaths react. They have no empathy for the suffering of others unless it's done to them.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. Why - what has he been saying about it? "I'm troubled"?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:58 PM
Dec 2014

I'm supposed to be impressed about faint criticism?

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
11. But he still supported Bush and Cheney
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:31 PM
Dec 2014

None of this information on torture is new. Seeing it in this format is new, but everyone who had two brain cells knew this was going on. Why didn't McCain call for impeachment?

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
20. Actually, I've personally found that "empathy" is best learned through experience.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

I used to have sympathy.
Then I was hungry.
I now have empathy.

I can have only a small amount of empathy for those who were tortured. But I have a great sympathy for them. I cannot imagine myself in their place to understand their feelings. I do however have a great bit of care and sorrow for their feelings, and unimaginable grief. But that would be best described as sympathy.

Martin Eden

(12,803 posts)
21. I agree with the distinction between "empathy" and "sympathy"
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:58 PM
Dec 2014

Where we tend to differ from "conservatives" is that we have sympathy they all too often lack.

If John McCain was never a POW I sincerely doubt he'd have the same stance on torture.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. The one subject on which he actually gets mavericky.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:11 PM
Dec 2014

He only sold most of his soul, and retains a bit of dignity.

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