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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:04 PM Dec 2014

Public Service announcement: "This drug may impair the ability to drive or operate machinery. "

This isn't only about that warning, but about driving while you are tired. For most people, that means after a late night the day before. For me, that means trying to get too much at once despite my autoimmune fatigue.

About a year ago, i was running around doing last minute Christmas preparations. I was bone tired, it was the end of the day, but I drove out to a local nursery to get my poinsettias. I thought I was alert - I wasn't yawning or blinking my eyes. I finished my shopping and headed home, making a left turn at an intersection I've used for 30 years.

I know there was a school bus where it didn't belong. I will never know exactly what I did, because I was unconscious for at least 15 minutes after my car was totaled by a machine twice its size. I think what happened is that the driver who hit me was reacting to the school bus and never saw me until he swung into my lane and hit me. What I know is that if I'd been fully alert, I would never have entered the intersection; and wouldn't have been there to hit.

So - the public service announcement - you may think you're awake enough to drive or operate that snow blower or whatever, and you'll be OK as long as nothing out of the ordinary happens. But you can't guarantee that nothing unusual will happen, that someone won't back out of a driveway in front of you, that that food processor doesn't jam, that someone's Christmas tree doesn't come flying off their car roof straight at you. If you are at all tired, your reactions and ability to think through what you should do next may be impaired enough to put you in a world of hurt.

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Public Service announcement: "This drug may impair the ability to drive or operate machinery. " (Original Post) hedgehog Dec 2014 OP
Fatigue is as dangerous as alcohol when driving. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #1
I've heard the most dangerous drivers on the road are... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #8
A woman turned left into me as I walked in the cross walk. BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #2
If one must drive when fatigued force yourself into a state of hyper-alertness and keep your trip Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #3
I once drove on 5 from L.A. to San Francisco at night. The_Commonist Dec 2014 #4
The "I can close my eyes for a few minutes" is an excellent cue of a need for sleep - hedgehog Dec 2014 #5
Was driving down I-5 from San Jose to LA jeff47 Dec 2014 #6
I've got fibromyalgia and couldn't take my meds when I was pregnant LeftInTX Dec 2014 #7
Sounds very much like what happened to me! hedgehog Dec 2014 #11
Excellent reminder! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #9
To which my dad always says, "God, I hope so!" (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #10

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,594 posts)
1. Fatigue is as dangerous as alcohol when driving.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:06 PM
Dec 2014

That's why pilots and truck drivers are limited in the number of hours they can work in a day.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
8. I've heard the most dangerous drivers on the road are...
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:00 PM
Dec 2014

parents of newborn infants. I don't have backup for that, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it's true.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
2. A woman turned left into me as I walked in the cross walk.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:22 PM
Dec 2014

I saw her out of the corner of my eye and was running backward screaming and banging on the car hood as she was about to hit me. It took a while before she even "saw" me. She was driving like a zombie on autopilot to work. She finally stopped and just stared, frozen. Sleep deprivation is extremely dangerous.

I am a huge advocate for telecommuting for this reason. Keeps people off the road, good for the environment, and you don't have to spend hours in the car (here in LA, that is a distinct possibility). We've had the ability to do it for 25 years, and yet we don't. And so, people who already work 10-12 hours a day are on the road for hours. No wonder they're stressed to the limit and sleep deprived.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
3. If one must drive when fatigued force yourself into a state of hyper-alertness and keep your trip
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014

as short as possible.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
4. I once drove on 5 from L.A. to San Francisco at night.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:30 PM
Dec 2014

It's a long, boring drive.
I caught myself somewhere around Fresno with my eyelids closing, and thinking to myself "It's OK, I can just close my eyes for a few seconds..."

Then it hit me what I was doing, woke me the hell up, and I pulled over as soon as I could for a 30 minute nap and large cup of coffee. So, I was a little bit late to where I was going to next morning. At least I got there.

Scared the shit out of myself...

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
5. The "I can close my eyes for a few minutes" is an excellent cue of a need for sleep -
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:38 PM
Dec 2014

and people need to be aware of that. What I wanted to warn against are the situations in which you are really a "zombie on autopilot". You're OK, as long as nothing requires you to quickly evaluate something new.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Was driving down I-5 from San Jose to LA
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:44 PM
Dec 2014

For those not familiar with the highway, it is very straight, very flat, very dark, and very much in the middle-of-nowhere. Exits are something like 50 miles apart. They don't even bother with billboards.

It is one of the most boring highways in the country. Which makes it especially bad for sleep-deprived drivers.

I was driving from San Jose to LA about 20 years ago. The driver a car ahead of me kept drifting out of their lane, and then jerking back. Then one time they didn't jerk back. They hit their brakes as they went over an embankment off the right side of the road. It wasn't a far distance to the dirt below, so no one was hurt. But it could have been much more "exciting" if they'd happened to drift off elsewhere on the road.

LeftInTX

(25,128 posts)
7. I've got fibromyalgia and couldn't take my meds when I was pregnant
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 02:56 PM
Dec 2014

I had weeks of insomnia and the kind of fatigue where I couldn't think straight. Got in wreck during a lane change.

I either didn't do the blind spot check or I partially did the check and just couldn't see.

The wreck happened at one of those turn-arounds on a highway off-ramp. I lived right off the access road and was in the habit of using the turn-around daily.

After that I avoided many driving situations for the rest the pregnancy.

No one was hurt, but I had 2 kids in my car.

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