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kpete

(71,959 posts) Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:55 PM Dec 2014

The Good Old USA "actually tortured its own informants at one point.”

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“Among the many abuses the Senate Intelligence Committee found in its report on the CIA’s torture program, perhaps one of the more embarrassing for the CIA is that the agency actually tortured its own informants at one point.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/12/09/3601312/17-disgraceful-facts-contained-in-the-torture-report/

a little more:
3. The two psychologists who helped the CIA create the torture techniques earned over $81 million.

“In 2006, the value of the CIA’s base contract with the company formed by the psychologists with all options exercised was in excess of $180 million; the contractors received $81 million prior to the contract’s termination in 2009. In 2007, the CIA provided a multi-year indemnification agreement to protect the company and its employees from legal liability arising out of the program. The CIA has since paid out more than $1 million pursuant to the agreement.” [Page 11]

7. The CIA tortured innocent people.

“Of the 119 known detainees that were in CIA custody during the life of the program, at least 26 were wrongfully held. Detainees often remained in custody for months after the CIA determined they should not have been detained….Other KSM [Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] fabrications led the CIA to capture and detain suspected terrorists who were later found to be innocent.” [Page 485]

11. The CIA dismissed information that wasn’t obtained through torture, even though it proved to be true.

“KSM’s reporting during his first day in CIA custody included an accurate description of a Pakistani/British operative, which was dismissed as having been provided during the initial “‘throwaway’ stage” of information collection when the CIA believed detainees provided false or worthless information.’” [Page 82]

much more:
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/12/09/3601312/17-disgraceful-facts-contained-in-the-torture-report/

********PUT THIS ONE TO BED!:

The Senate report proves once and for all that torture didn't lead us to Osama bin Laden

TORTURE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

According to internal CIA records cited in the Senate report, key intelligence on Kuwaiti — "including information the CIA would later cite as pivotal" in finding Bin Laden — was acquired by 2002.

The sources included:

An email address the agency linked to Kuwaiti.

A phone number found in the records of several people close to bin Laden.

Interrogations of detainees by unspecified foreign governments.

Phone taps on various other individuals linked to al-Qaeda.

As the Senate report details, the CIA didn't acquire any intelligence on al-Kuwaiti via torture until 2003.

The CIA had begun trying to find and identify al-Kuwaiti well before any of that information was in.

http://www.vox.com/2014/12/9/7361091/cia-torture-bin-laden