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edhopper

(33,567 posts) Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:16 PM Dec 2014

Why the ticking bomb scenario isn't valid.

Even if that is the circumstances, and let's face it, it wasn't for almost all of those tortured.

But even if it was it doesn't work because they know that 1. all they have to do is lie or hold out until the bomb goes off. And 2.since you have information they need, there is no fear of death. (which some terrorists don't care about anyway.)

But of course it was not used for a ticking time bomb, it was used on whoever they could get in their grasp, guilty or innocent.
Cruelty for the sake of cruelty.

It was revenge not coercion.

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Why the ticking bomb scenario isn't valid. (Original Post) edhopper Dec 2014 OP

Did that scenario fit a single case? Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #1

I agree edhopper Dec 2014 #2

"24" was actually used by many RW pundits while it was on underpants Dec 2014 #3

Convenient, isn't it? arcane1 Dec 2014 #4

It apears for all intents & purposes to be bobalew Dec 2014 #5

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)

1. Did that scenario fit a single case?

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:19 PM

Dec 2014

I've yet to hear of one, if it did - other than on the TV show "24", which I suppose we must presume at this point was a deliberately constructed piece of war propaganda, given its timing.

That scenario was never anything more than a justification to discard due process and all of the other trappings of civilization.

edhopper

(33,567 posts)

2. I agree

Reply to Man from Pickens (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:22 PM

Dec 2014

but it is often used as an argument for torture by apologists.
I am giving the reasons why, even if it was the case, the argument isn't valid.

underpants

(182,763 posts)

3. "24" was actually used by many RW pundits while it was on

Reply to Man from Pickens (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:25 PM

Dec 2014

They openly stated/wrote articles about how our national security policies should conform to a TV show.

arcane1

(38,613 posts)

4. Convenient, isn't it?

Reply to underpants (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:27 PM

Dec 2014

bobalew

(321 posts)

5. It apears for all intents & purposes to be

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:31 PM

Dec 2014

one big long-ass Frat Party, where the 'Lessers" get Hazed to death. Oh what a Fine time these Abusive asses had... while not getting one bit of useful information.

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