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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:46 PM Dec 2014

The lesser of two evils? "America's Program": CIA Sodomized Prisoners, Lied To All

I mean, after all, as was pointed out to me today, we could have just killed people instead of torturing them. And as Michael Hayden of the CIA noted, "Let me remind you that every member of our intelligence committees, House and Senate, Republican and Democrat, is now fully briefed on the detention and interrogation program. This is not CIA's program. This is not the President's program. This is America's program."

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/09/cia_torture_cheney_sodomy.php

The CIA paid two psychologists $81 million to help systematically torture terrorism detainees, some of whom were completely innocent, by beating them, threatening to rape their family members, and subjecting them to unnecessary "rectal feedings" and "rectal hydrations," so as to "exert total control over the detainee," and lied about it for years to Congress, the White House and you.

A 6,000-page report compiled over a period of five years by the Senate Select Intelligence Committee and released in its redacted and abridged form today [PDF] needs no hyperbole. The report states that the CIA knew that torturing people doesn't work. The CIA tortured people anyway. Sometimes that meant letting a detainee freeze to death (one who happened to be innocent). Other times it meant "hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins [were] 'pureed' and rectally infused."

As one CIA officer put it, "[r]egarding the rectal tube, if you place it and open up the IV tubing, the flow will self regulate, sloshing up the large intestines." Another speculated, "[w]hat I infer is that you get a tube up as far as you can, then open the IV wide. No need to squeeze the bag—let gravity do the work."

(The torturers obviously didn't know what they were doing: "The CIA placed individuals with no applicable experience or training in senior detention and interrogation roles, and provided inadequate linguistic and analytical support to conduct effective questioning of CIA detainees, resulting in diminished intelligence.&quot

Even when the CIA's torture victims (kept in secret prisons some called "dungeons&quot didn't need to be fed, those like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed were sodomized with the rectal feeding equipment anyway, to ensure "total control over the detainee."

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The lesser of two evils? "America's Program": CIA Sodomized Prisoners, Lied To All (Original Post) Karmadillo Dec 2014 OP
Hayden to Congress: "There are no instances in which such threats Karmadillo Dec 2014 #1

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
1. Hayden to Congress: "There are no instances in which such threats
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 06:27 PM
Dec 2014

or abuses took place." Fortunately, we have accountability in this country. Hayden will certainly pay for his lies.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/defense/how-the-cia-lied-to-congress-on-torture-according-to-congress-20141209

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On "Threats Related to Sodomy, Arrest of Family"

HAYDEN: Threats of acts of sodomy, the arrest and rape of family members, the intentional infection of HIV or any other diseases have never been and would never be authorized. There are no instances in which such threats or abuses took place.

FACT CHECK: As documented in the May 2004 Inspector General Special Review and other CIA records, interrogators threatened 'Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, KSM, and Abu Zubaydah with harm to their families. ...

At least five detainees were subjected to rectal rehydration or rectal feeding. .... KSM was subjected to rectal rehydration without a determination of medical need, a procedure that KSM interrogator and chief of interrogations, would later characterize as illustrative of the interrogator's "total control over the detainee." ... Three detainees, Rarazi bin al-Shibh, Khallad bin Attash and Adnan al-Libi, were threatened with rectal rehydration.

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