But we already knew that. If you accidentally hit and killed someone with your car, for example,
it's called a homicide.

The intent is the important factor -- if there is a deliberate act to kill, that is a criminal homicide. A death by automobile accident is not premeditated.

Sam

The generic term 'homicide' doesn't distinguish between accidental or intentional, legally justifiable or
criminal.

If a homicide is criminal the specific legal charge might be 'criminally-negligent homicide', 'involuntary manslaughter',
'manslaughter', 'murder', etc.

What distinguishes between a homicide and a manslaughter as far as charges filed and punishments determined is the presence of intent. The subject of this thread is the label assigned to the finding of the cause of death as a result of the autopsy. Yes, the Justice Department autopsy finding was homicide but the lawyers for the family will assert the homicide was intentionally caused and not an accidental event. The former is a premeditated criminal act while the latter has no premeditation or deliberate intent to cause a death.

was legally justifiable.

Regardless of what TV dramas say. Whenever one person kills another, in whatever fashion, it's a homicide.

i think what you're discussing is murder versus manslaughter, both of which are crimes.

in accountability is the intent to kill. That is the difference I am trying to establish here, and I can't understand why it is so difficult. If there is deliberate intent, that is a criminal offense which in the legal arena will draw a much heftier punishment than if there is no intent to kill but for instance simply an accident.

Sam

If someone attacks me and I kill them in self defense, that is a deliberate act of justifiable homicide, it all depends on the circumstances of the act.

It means the death was not due to natural causes. A homicide may be lawful or unlawful, and unlawful homicides are further subcategorized. But those aren't medical findings.

Division? And do they call them for every death...or only suspicios ones?

So, Homicide divisions will usually be called in any time police become aware of somebody's death (eg, by finding the body), and in a separate process the ME will notify (in a state that does automatic inquests) any finding of homicide they have.

Do they csll homicide if soneone dies of a heart attack?

No they dont.....they call homicide when they suspect murder..

That's not a valid comparison.

It wasn't a suicide, or an accidental death.

Homicide – the act of killing of a person ("homo" being Latin for man)

NOT

Murder - the malicious and unlawful killing of a human by another human

manslaughter.

He didn't die of ebola or sudden electrical shock due to lightning.

...emphasizing that term.

I'm not a lawyer, but the definition of "homicide" is to cause the death of person by another person.

Many people equate "homicide" with "murder" or an intentional act. I'm not condoning what happened, but legally speaking it was a homicide, just as the shooting this morning of that knife wielding man in the Chabad-Lubavitch in Brooklyn will probably be legally categorized a "homicide".

The heading you posted is NOT the title of the headline at the link. Thus, you felt the need to change that. Second, you felt there was a reason to capitalize all of the word "homicide". It is clear you either had intentions to mislead or were ignorant as to the meaning of the word homicide.

I capitalized HOMICIDE because IMO, it was MURDER. Not "homicide".

But don't let me spoil your fun attempt at attacking me over what YOU TOLD me I intended.

Here's what you did to me. You said to me:

"YOU felt" .... "YOU intended" ... and worse, "YOU are ignorant"

HOW do YOU know what I feel? Or what I intended? Do you have such magical powers?

You do not know. In fact, you didn't even ASK!

YOU TOLD ME, instead. Then, proceeded to attack me based on what YOU TOLD me my intent was. And, what YOU TOLD me I felt.

What was my intent actually? Well. You never ASKED, did you? You just TOLD me what my intent was and what I felt -- then proceeded to attack based on what YOU TOLD me my intent was. And what YOU say I felt, as if you magically knew!

Can you read minds? Do you somehow know what everyone on DU is feeling? Really? You would be a very rich person if you could do that.

VERY interesting what you did here.

And VERY abusive.

Oh boy. Another abusive person I get to ignore.

Here's a bit of advice to you: NEVER TELL ANYONE what they "feel". NEVER TELL ANYONE what their intent or motives are. AND NEVER proceed to ATTACK or criticize someone based on what YOU TOLD someone (or ASSumed) their feelings or intent are. Because you could be WRONG. And that's ABUSE.

ASK. FIRST. Mkay?

Now, since I don't suffer abuse...

Bye!

You just admitted it was an attempt to further your opinion through a deceptive presentation of the facts. Thus, one of the possibilities I listed ended up being true. Imagine that.

Homicide is not a necessarily a crime.

I'm not sure why this being labeled a homicide is news - it was already labeled as such by the other two autopsies months ago.

That means it was a killing of one person by another.

It merely means that someone died because of the actions of another and not by their own hand. It doesn't differentiate between justifiable killing and non-justifiable killing.

I don't think anyone ever disputed that. The question is, was it justifiable homicide? Given the facts regarding this case, I don't believe it was.

... covered up by the men in black?

Good to know !