Yes, there are many people who might cheer executions. I wouldn't challenge that it is a significant fraction of the population. But I have no reason to believe that it represents 50+% if Americans.

Just as video of Eric Garner's death by suffocation under the weight of police officers laying on him showed us that conservatives can also recognize abuse, I am open to the idea that typical conservatives presented with the information in this report will recognize abuse and no cheer it.

To be taken away from that belief I need some evidence based on credible polling of Americans.

"elected officials" are doing, it still happens.

Endless wars, despite people not wanting any more wars. (At this, the Obama Administration utilizes a nice ploy - drones don't involve boots on the ground, and since there are no boots, the media doesn't care to bother with reports on what those drones really do.)

Endless establishment of guaranteed living wages for big Financial People and Big Bankers, who have been offered trillions of dollars, and experts claim that at least four trillion of dollars of loans to those creeps will never be repaid.

Almost a million signatures were collected to be sent to the FDA, and some administrator inside the FDA ruled those signatures to count only as one signature.

It doesn't matter what people really want - the Powers that be will not be offering it any time soon. The fact that 2016 will see Corporatist Hillary Clinton facing off against Corporatist with an R after their name pretty much shows us the crap we will continue to have to swallow.

people must seize it by suasion if possible but by force if necessary.

1% of this country's population controls (owns) 40% of its wealth and 10% of this country's population controls 80% of its wealth. That is a situation begging for a reckoning, whether soft or hard remains to be seen.

Especially when the heads are darker than the white race.

It ain't to me.

Fish, or cut bait? The bigger question is who benefits.

Pollution is okay

Nukes are safe

What stolen election?

War is good for the economy

Turn the ME into a parking lot

******************* ETC.

Added up, this country has a boatload of bad people just itching to kill maim and destroy everyone and anything that doesn't look or act just like them.

Glad I'm an old man. Sorry kids, some of us tried. Just not enough, eh?

Says who? You and your sample of one?

W. T. F. ?

fuck'em

but to most people that is just a cliché. I agree totally that most Americans don't give a flying fig.

One acquaintance went so far as to say good because they cut the dicks off of our guys. ????

When I asked for them to give me a source for that because I haven't seen any reputable news reporting that, all they said was it's being covered up so you won't hear about it officially.????

So I guess if you believe things like that are true, you think torturing them is just fine. However, I disagree with you that most think that way. Most people I know think it's deplorable.

People aren't bothered when their neighbors lose work, when police bully or beat protestors, when police kill unarmed black men, when a woman is raped, when a family loses their home to foreclosure, or in medical bankruptcy how can we expect an outcry against children bombed or individuals tortured half a world away when we don't care about our neighbors here? No one cares until it happens to them and then they see that no one will listen, few will help and many will blame them for their plight. O he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He associated with the wrong people. He made bad decisions. She wore the wrong clothes. We should care. Some do. But we're separated and silenced. Media will tell us polls indicate we approve or don't care and nothing will change. Damn, hope I'm wrong about that though.

say I disagree with you, though, nor that I disapprove of your saying it.

Shared to my FB page with your DU screen name as byline (assuming you have no objections).

Hope people find fault with my cynicism.

consists of a word-for-word copy and paste of your comment here). He's a radical left-wing Methodist pastor who was himself tortured down in South American back in the day.

Poppy Bush's tentacles have been in entertainment industry since the 60s.

They were furriners
They had a different skin color
They were of a different race
They made a different amount of money than me
They had a different job than me
They weren't office/laborers as me

it's amazingly sad how easy it is to 'divide and conquer'

do i really need to add a sarcasm tag?

if 50% of us Population were to say something in opposition i'd be surprised
actually make that 25%
unfortunately add truth tag most likely...we'll see shortly...will hemp stock go up for war crime hangings...or not?

I heard a lady say "if they only waterboarded 3 people whats the big deal?"

seriously in need of a little waterboarding action all for her herself.

As some have pointed out… Why do you think "conventional wisdom" has shown us the way? The example of "24" and all the other tripe that passed as entertainment.

It's 1984 … It's DeJeVu all over again… We have to STOP being dumbed down.

It ain't gonna be easy.

I was watching the news this morning and every single talking head was blathering on about how the "important question" was whether the torture worked.

Not whether it was, you know, wrong. Whether it fucking worked.

And that wasn't Fox "news", it was NBC.

the killing of Americans. I am as disgusted by the torture report. Many aren't because they saw people jumping to their deaths from the towers, etc, or watched those horrific and barbarous ISIS videos where they kill and behead en masse. It can be hard to want to extend human rights to such people. Please keep in mind most Americans are good people trying to navigate their way through the very real clash of civilizations the world is going through at the moment.

right-wing line before?????

Maybe it's this douchenozzle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

"This is why I don't give a shit how we gathered information from terrorists"

Funny to see that same sentiment here.

And of course, they falsely assume that every person that was tortured was a terrorist. Idiots.

Some even believe that our invasion of Iraq was done to protect the country.

Some are so out there that they believe being barbaric to a barbaric person makes them a good person

are 'tortured' and video of same makes its way into their living rooms.

Like Malcolm X said, it will be "the chickens coming home to roost."

Americans treated POWs well in WWII, and it had some payback in Europe. Germans were far more amenable to surrender in a fight with Brits or Americans than they were in fights with Russians because they knew they'd be safe and reasonably well treated in American POW Camps. Germany and Italy at least went through some of the motions of following the Geneva Convention, but both recorded numerous instances of prisoner mistreatment.

Japan, OTOH, paid no attention whatsoever to the Geneva Convention, and committed numerous atrocities against American prisoners. Ditto North Korea. Ditto North Vietnam. Al Quaida and ISIS/ISIL are thugs, torturers, and murderers.

My point: our soldiers have been routinely abused and this won't change that. What will change is that we will lack any moral authority to lecture anyone on torture.

Convention on Torture (which requires, among other things, that the U.S. governemnt prosecute any of its officials credibly alleged to have engaged in torture).

So all nations are now fully entitled to nullify any treaties into which they have entered with us, since we can't be bothered to fulfill our own treaty obligations.

That's another 'change' I expect.

All Americans contemplating enlisting in the Armed Forces henceforth should be explicitly cautioned before they enlist that they are hereby opening themselves up to being tortured in the event they are captured. And, like you say, we will lack any moral authority to lecture anyone on torture or even on 'human rights' (see Guantanamo and force-feeding).

Factory farms torture pigs every day. Have you seen photo images of their lives?
Also, factory farm chickens. We imagine that chickens are beneath contempt... well the reality is far worse than your imagination.