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This is just un-freaking-believable.
http://www.boston.com/food-dining/restaurants/2014/12/09/harvard-business-school-professor-goes-war-over-worth-chinese-food/KfMaEhab6uUY1COCnTbrXP/story.html?p1=Topofpage:Carousel_lead_headline
The idiot is ripping a mom-and-pop restaurant to shreds because their web site isn't up to date. This is one of the people who gives lawyers a bad name.
Edited to get the name of the school right.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)Mr. Duan has offered just about everything a reasonable business owner would offer in a case like this.
I would strongly advise him to make his next email reply "So sue me." Then hope the shithead does.
I can well imagine what even a small claims court judge would have to say to Edelman and it would be pithy, pungent, and rude.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)"Prices subject to change without notice"
That covers him for the increased cost of everything from rice to soybean oil to fresh water fish that result in temporary or permanent increases on the printed menu.
However, even though he didn't consult you first, he did offer to reimburse Fuckwit for the difference between website cost and restaurant cost.
I'd have sent a cabbie over to Edelman's house with a sack of $4.00 in loose pennies.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"website prices has been out of date for some time".
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)I wonder how this Harvard jackwagon would like to be inconvenienced.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I hate to profile, but based on his photo, he even looks like a douchebag.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)The irony can be cut with a knife - I hope the public humiliation and irreparable damage to his reputation was worth his time. lmfao
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)What a dick! Guess Mr. Smartypants lawyer showed that restaurateur a thing or two about the law. I guess being a law professor at Harvard doesn't keep him busy enough.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)which apparently makes him think he has the right to be a total douche to a small business trying its best to straighten out his complaint. I hope the restaurant gets a ton of business and I hope Professor Assweasel gets the ration of shit he deserves.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Back in the '80s a coworker of mine used to say that everyone was afraid of the USSR, but what was going to ruin the US was Harvard Business School. How right he was.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)This guy is a good example of what your coworker was describing.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Just an evil thought....
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Or get some MIT guys (and gals) on the case. Their pranks are legendary.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I have a relative who's an MIT alum.
He used to tell me stories...
The reconstructed VW in a dorm is one of the best-known ones, although it has the whiff of urban legend to it.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)They once put a police cruiser -- with flashing lights -- on top of the Great Dome.
rug
(82,333 posts)lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)I hope this makes the rounds on the internet real good and the story
gets back to his clients and his employer. He should be ashamed.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)cally
(21,593 posts)he's a bully!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)..... when some douche bag lawyer got fired over something similar. It was over a coupon he won at a charity event - he and his douche bag lawyer coworkers decided to crucify the donor restaurant because they didn't follow the statute and print the disclaimer/limits on the FRONT of the coupon (the disclaimer was on the back). When the newspaper picked it up the coworkers, like good little weasels, blamed the main instigator and got him fired.
I only hope this d-bag gets the same result.
In my business, I try to avoid "business school" graduates if at all possible. Nothing but trouble. How do I know? When they work it in to the conversation. They can't help it. I used to work with a repig that always wanted to tell me about what he learned in MBA school "you can't tax a business because they will just pass it along to the consumer bla bla bla". My answer: then why don't they quit their bitchin' about taxes and shut the fuck up and pay?
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)He's not going to get fired over this.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)late at night, as Professor Edelman is walking to his vehicle alone in a darkened parking lot, having his priorities suddenly adjusted with greater concerns than a $4 difference on his takeout tab
Because if the law allows what he is doing, the law should not be respected with respect to him. There are few types of individuals who are more poisonous to a society than people who use the law to do wrongs that no law ever intended to allow.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Edelman is the nephew of civil rights and education advocate Marian Wright Edelman, and his parents are lawyers who specialize in employment discrimination and nursing-home abuse cases. By age 13 he was charging clients for $10-an-hour PC consulting. Hes the Doogie Howser of online investigative work, says Richard Boscovich, a Microsoft assistant general counsel and former federal prosecutor, referring to the fictional young physician of the TV series.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-13/harvards-ben-edelman-web-sheriff-may-have-a-conflict-or-two
What a twit.
Retrograde
(10,133 posts)The Harvard guy is being somewhat childish, but his basic point is right: businesses can't advertise one price and charge another, no matter how small they are. But a refund and a change to the website should be sufficient. OTOH, claiming you're too small to follow state rules is as bad as claiming you're too big to follow them.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Hundred? Thousands?
That's all fraud earnings.
Perhaps thousands of dollars of it.
"Fuck it, it's $3 for my Chinese food. Whatever."
Dozens of orders a night? Hundreds a week? For how long? A year? Three years? Say they overcharged merely 100 people a week the same amount: $4. That's $400 a week. That's $20,800 a year, defrauded from people in the community.
No doubt, the guy seems like a jerk. But false price fraud for small amounts is ubiquitous and pernicious, though. This small business was engaging in it, even if they weren't doing it intentionally. How many people would pay $8.95 for beef and broccoli, but not $10.95? That's a price fraud, and it's illegal.
It's robbery. And they were doing it how many times a week? Dozens? Hundreds?
NJCher
(35,654 posts)Your argument rests on the idea that most people look at a web site and then order. Wrong. Most business comes from regular customers who know exactly what they want and don't even bother consulting the menu.
In fact, if you read the rest of the correspondence, the blame for this error can rest on the fact that the restaurant owner did not call the web design company to update the prices. This is common with small businesses who hire a company to design their site. This work is not inexpensive and calling someone to update the prices is not something that occurs to restaurant operations people. They're restaurant operations people, not marketing people.
Your projections are highly unlikely. Furthermore, they assume people just pony up, and they don't. People are pretty sharp about the restaurant tab and call the restaurant on it when they need to.
Cher
Monk06
(7,675 posts)court, one with a very light docket, to award him three times his claimed damages. If the judge does not laugh at him he may actually be rewarded. However demanding of the restaurant owner, three times your perceived loss by citing a statute has him posing as plaintiff, judge and sheriff.
Frat boy thinks he IS the court and his word bears the authority of the court.
What a prissy little smart ass he must have been as an undergrad, if he is such a pedantic asshole now.
niyad
(113,259 posts)is the program or unit where he supposedly teaches.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Sue them!
niyad
(113,259 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Refusing service is the right of all businesses, unless it relates to a constitutionally protected class. Assholes are not considered a protected class.
Loved this comment from the OP's link:
"Ben, I've read the course curriculum for the class my daughter is taking with you this semester. Looks like you have quite a few outlined subjects (16) of which she tells me only (9) are actually to be covered according to you. We have contacted a lawyer you self important little man."
NJCher
(35,654 posts)He fell right into that one!
Cher
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)One year.
NJCher
(35,654 posts)Edelman makes a public apology for his ridiculous, petty behavior:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/harvard-professor-apologizes-restaurant-threat-4-article-1.2041032
snip
An associate Harvard Business school professor has apologized after ruthlessly threatening a Chinese restaurant with legal action when it overcharged his $53 meal by $4.
snip
Cher
on edit: is it any wonder lawyers are hated like they are?
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)More of the same.
That's just incredible!!
Cher