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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 09:11 PM Dec 2014

Video shows John Crawford's girlfriend aggressively questioned after Ohio police shot him dead

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/14/john-crawford-girlfriend-questioned-walmart-police-shot-dead?CMP=share_btn_tw

Police aggressively questioned the tearful girlfriend of a young black man they had just shot dead as he held a BB gun in an Ohio supermarket – accusing her of lying, threatening her with jail, and suggesting her boyfriend had planned to shoot the mother of his children.

Tasha Thomas was reduced to swearing on the lives of her relatives that John Crawford III had not been carrying a firearm when they entered the Walmart in Beavercreek, near Dayton, to buy crackers, marshmallows and chocolate bars on the evening of 5 August.

“You lie to me and you might be on your way to jail,” detective Rodney Curd told Thomas, as she wept and repeatedly offered to take a lie-detector test. After more than an hour and a half of questioning and statement-taking, Curd finally told Thomas that Crawford, 22, had died.

“As a result of his actions, he is gone,” said the detective, as she slumped in her chair and cried.


Video and more reporting at the link.
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Video shows John Crawford's girlfriend aggressively questioned after Ohio police shot him dead (Original Post) Fumesucker Dec 2014 OP
0000000000000000000000000000000 NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1
.. onecaliberal Dec 2014 #2
Rodney makes my blood Curdle! How disgusting he is! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #3
protect and serve noiretextatique Dec 2014 #4
This man should be fired. Totally incompetent interviewing. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #5
Also, you NEVER have to talk to the police. Besides ID yourself if asked in many states. nt Logical Dec 2014 #11
Torture is the new American standard. (NT) The Wizard Dec 2014 #17
Don't say that...it could happen zeemike Dec 2014 #24
Wow what a fucking asshole n/t doc03 Dec 2014 #6
Fuck. the. Police. kath Dec 2014 #7
More casual gun on gun or mistaken gun on gun or accidental gun violence in America, bound to Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8
Those ASSHOLES GETPLANING Dec 2014 #9
People need to KNOW they never have to talk to the police. I am so sick of TV shows...... Logical Dec 2014 #10
Ah Geez...All this pain for absolutely nothing. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #12
mother fucking pos. marym625 Dec 2014 #13
+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #28
This is beyond outrage. Disgusting.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #14
Another innocent person murdered by the police sakabatou Dec 2014 #15
I can't watch it. drm604 Dec 2014 #16
I feel the same... butterfly77 Dec 2014 #19
Same here. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #38
What next The Wizard Dec 2014 #18
Cops. What's not to love? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #20
fuck these pigs frylock Dec 2014 #21
I suspect that the cops are embarrassed by these actions MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #22
I hear Dick Cheney is available. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #25
That evil mother fucker! People should hound that POS until he leaves the country. 20score Dec 2014 #23
Fuck... WillyT Dec 2014 #26
This is deeply disturbing. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #27
NEVER SamKnause Dec 2014 #29
Easy for a middle class white person with access to legal representation to do 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #31
+1000 Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #34
I am white. SamKnause Dec 2014 #37
Detective Rodney Curd you are the lowest of the low and the scum of the earth n/t 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #30
prime candidate for police union president, national branch nt msongs Dec 2014 #32
sweet Jesus! Howler Dec 2014 #33
When every black American is automatically assumed to be a criminal Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #35
Please note the NRA's lack of outrage, because he wasn't a white open-carry fanatic. DetlefK Dec 2014 #36
"they invent a story and try to berate people into corroborating it" Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #39

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
5. This man should be fired. Totally incompetent interviewing.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:03 PM
Dec 2014


Actually, calling it an interview is much too generous. It was essentially 100% badgering and intimidation. He neither had any interest in determining any facts, nor were his methods capable of producing truth.










zeemike

(18,998 posts)
24. Don't say that...it could happen
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:44 PM
Dec 2014

If it becomes approved for suspected terrorist why not for suspected murder?
I bet they could have got this poor girl to admit that he had a gun on him when he went into the store if they inflicted a little pain on her...as it is all he had was the threat of jail and taking her kids.

But can't convince me that by the time the cops did this interrogation the cops did not already know it was a BB gun from the store.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. More casual gun on gun or mistaken gun on gun or accidental gun violence in America, bound to
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:25 PM
Dec 2014

happen frequently in a militarized civilian and militarized police state saturated with mutual distrust, rampant out of control gun possession and tolerance of casual violence.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. People need to KNOW they never have to talk to the police. I am so sick of TV shows......
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:42 PM
Dec 2014

where a cop says "you need to go downtown and answer some questions". Unless they arrest you, your answer to that question can be "Fuck Off!". If the police want to ask you questions they can ask them where ever you want. And even if arrested you don't need to answer any question.

Every kid should be taught that in school.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
16. I can't watch it.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:59 PM
Dec 2014

After reading about it, I cannot bring myself to watch the video. To harass and threaten this poor woman, before finally telling her that the man is dead, is so completely wrong... so immoral... so sick...

And nothing will happen to this man. Nothing. They'll say he's just "doing his job".

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
19. I feel the same...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:16 PM
Dec 2014

I can't watch well,today anyway I have seen so many things today that I am angry about my brain is on overload..

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
22. I suspect that the cops are embarrassed by these actions
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:21 PM
Dec 2014

They were not successful at forcing all of the false information they needed.

Next time, they'll get a pro to do the job... and the camera will be broken that day.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
29. NEVER
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:35 AM
Dec 2014

talk to the 'police' without an attorney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are not your friends.

They are not their to protect you.

They have already made up their mind that you are guilty.

They lie during interrogations.

They lie under oath.

The uninformed public usually side with the police.

NEVER talk to the 'police' without an attorney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They view you as another notch on their belt. (referred to as a collar if you watch any of the police shows that are on TV 24/7) Collars=Promotions.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
31. Easy for a middle class white person with access to legal representation to do
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:46 AM
Dec 2014

but when you're a minority or poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck, have children and no real access to legal representation, and no way to pay for bail, you're going to try to talk your way out to prevent them from completely fucking you over. If you don't talk they can and will arrest you on some bullshit charge, place your children in foster care and if you rent, you stand to lose your apartment and all of your possessions while you rot in jail waiting for a preliminary hearing which could be months down the road.

For some its just not as easy as "I want my lawyer".

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
37. I am white.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

I am not middle class.

I live on $1060.00 per month.

I would have to get the money from my family and friends.

I am terrified of the police.

I would never tell them anything.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
36. Please note the NRA's lack of outrage, because he wasn't a white open-carry fanatic.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:05 AM
Dec 2014

Quote from article:
"Crawford’s family and their attorneys have stressed since his death that under Ohio’s open-carry firearms laws and Walmart’s regulations, he would have been allowed to carry a real rifle with him around the store."

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
39. "they invent a story and try to berate people into corroborating it"
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:20 PM
Dec 2014

one of the most highly rated comments following the article in the dailymail

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