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applegrove

(118,485 posts) Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:17 PM Dec 2014

Elizabeth Warren was told to stay quiet, but she didn’t – and it’s paying off

Elizabeth Warren was told to stay quiet, but she didn’t – and it’s paying off

By Zachary A. Goldfarb at the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/12/14/elizabeth-warren-is-changing-washington-without-giving-up-her-outside-status/

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In her book released this year, Sen. Elizabeth Warren recounted a dinner she had with President Obama’s chief economic adviser, Larry Summers, in April 2009, when Warren was the outspoken chairman of a congressionally appointed panel probing the government’s response to the financial crisis.

Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice. ... He teed it up this way: I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider. Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them. Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say. But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule. They don’t criticize other insiders.

I had been warned.

Warren ignored the warning.

And if the past few weeks are any indication, she can operate as an insider without giving her up outsider credentials. She’s remained outspoken, but has become even more influential. She hasn't stopped throwing bombs at the rich and powerful — and causing trouble for the White House — but she's won a spot in Senate leadership, changed the shape of congressional debates over financial regulation and continued to draw widespread attention as a potential presidential candidate.

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Elizabeth Warren was told to stay quiet, but she didn’t – and it’s paying off (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2014 OP

I guess her hearing wasn't too good. --- Happens when you get older. Hoppy Dec 2014 #1

There should have been more said from the oversight committee when she was Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #2

Kicked and recommended a massive amount! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #3

I'm starting to like her IN SPITE OF her over the top and frothing supporters here Number23 Dec 2014 #4

Took me a while to warm up to her too. At the very least she can do is make applegrove Dec 2014 #6

Great post. I saw firsthand how the sub prime mortgage fiasco ruined the 'hood Number23 Dec 2014 #7

Welcome to the outside with the rest of the 99% of us Warren. Nice to have you with us. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #5

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)

1. I guess her hearing wasn't too good. --- Happens when you get older.

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Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:33 PM

Dec 2014

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

2. There should have been more said from the oversight committee when she was

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:38 PM

Dec 2014

In a great position to do so.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)

3. Kicked and recommended a massive amount!

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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:27 AM

Dec 2014

Number23

(24,544 posts)

4. I'm starting to like her IN SPITE OF her over the top and frothing supporters here

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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:07 AM

Dec 2014

This article was a great read as well as the one in your OP

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/dem-house-aide-sen-warren-now-the-ted-cruz-our-party

applegrove

(118,485 posts)

6. Took me a while to warm up to her too. At the very least she can do is make

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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:28 AM

Dec 2014

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Hillary Clinton bring her A game. At the very most she might attract some of the libertariansthatrandpaulhaswarmedup/anti bankerteapartiers to her if she does run. Above all, I want to see a vigorous Democratic primary and even if Warren does not run she may help make that happen.

Number23

(24,544 posts)

7. Great post. I saw firsthand how the sub prime mortgage fiasco ruined the 'hood

Reply to applegrove (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:33 AM

Dec 2014

so to see her addressing that and going after the banks makes me immensely happy.

What I don't like is the "Warren good/Obama bad" stupidity that pervades far too many posts here. It's why I don't even bother reading many OPs on her. But if, as you said, she's able to encourage Hillary to up her game and attract a larger base to the Dem party, that would be great.

Though we all know that the only way to expand your base is to expand your message and policies, and the second she does that her "liberal champions" will drop her like a scalding potato but that's a discussion for another day.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)

5. Welcome to the outside with the rest of the 99% of us Warren. Nice to have you with us.

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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:10 AM

Dec 2014

To all those Insiders who don't truly represent us I say, "Don't let the door hit you on the butt on your way out" because the insiders are being thrown out like they deserve.

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