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malaise

(268,930 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:49 AM Dec 2014

Angela Davis: ‘There is an unbroken line of police violence in the US that takes us all the way back

to the days of slavery’

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The activist, feminist and revolutionary explains how the ‘prison industrial complex’ profits from black people, that Barack Obama can’t be blamed for the lack of progress on race, and why Beyoncé is not a terrorist

“There is an unbroken line of police violence in the United States that takes us all the way back to the days of slavery, the aftermath of slavery, the development of the Ku Klux Klan,” says Angela Davis. “There is so much history of this racist violence that simply to bring one person to justice is not going to disturb the whole racist edifice.”

I had asked the professor, activist, feminist and revolutionary, the woman whom Richard Nixon called a terrorist and whom Ronald Reagan tried to fire as a professor, if she was angered by the failure of a grand jury to indict a white police officer for shooting dead an unarmed black man, Michael Brown, in Ferguson, Missouri earlier this year. “The problem with always pursuing the individual perpetrator in all of the many cases that involve police violence,” the 70-year-old replies, “is that one reinvents the wheel each time and it cannot possibly begin to reduce racist police violence. Which is not to say that individual perpetrators should not be held accountable – they should.”

Not that Davis is insensitive to the outrage over specific cases of police violence against black men, be it the riots in Ferguson, the worldwide protests over the death of Eric Garner in police custody, or Trayvon Martin. Davis focuses on the latter to make an incendiary point about the racism endemic in Obama’s America. In 2012, she reminds me, Martin, a black high school student, was fatally shot at a gated estate in Florida by George Zimmerman, a white neighbourhood watch coordinator. Zimmerman, who was later acquitted of Martin’s killing, reminds her of “those who were part of the slave patrols during the slave era”.
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Well said my sister - from another person influenced by the genius Stuart Hall

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Angela Davis: ‘There is an unbroken line of police violence in the US that takes us all the way back (Original Post) malaise Dec 2014 OP
"Violence is as American as cherry pie." bemildred Dec 2014 #1
It's not an America thing, it's a power thing. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #2
Not very creative, true. Old school, violence is, regressive in all its forms. bemildred Dec 2014 #3
I've heard the quote numerous ties, though I confess to not knowing anything about the originator. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #4
He was a little wild, yeah. bemildred Dec 2014 #5
"a little wild"? Beer bongs are "a little wild." This guy is tied to shootings and bombings. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #6
Hey, you're the anarchist. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #7
Yeah. I'm the kind that disapproves of killing in the name of political power. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #8
Good thinking. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #9
The quote is of H. Rap Brown at a rally . . . brush Dec 2014 #10
I've seen "apple" debunked in favor of "cherry". bemildred Dec 2014 #11
Slaver exploiting still exists JonLP24 Dec 2014 #13
Yep: Children harvest crops and sacrifice dreams in Mexico's fields bemildred Dec 2014 #14
du rec. xchrom Dec 2014 #12

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. "Violence is as American as cherry pie."
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:36 AM
Dec 2014

The man knew whereof he spoke.
The slaver exploiting mentality still rules in America.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
2. It's not an America thing, it's a power thing.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:09 AM
Dec 2014

When people have the instruments of authority to place themselves over another person and the tools of violence to enforce their will they do so. The US, UK, Germany, China, Spain, Cuba, the Dutch, etc. etc. etc. All of them. Davis even accepted the Lenin award from the USSR, a nation whose police state murdered more of its own people and sent more to the gulags than Hitler did in open warfare.

There are no beneficent governments -- anywhere -- ever.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Not very creative, true. Old school, violence is, regressive in all its forms.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:14 AM
Dec 2014

Do you recognize the quote?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. I've heard the quote numerous ties, though I confess to not knowing anything about the originator.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:25 AM
Dec 2014

Reading up on some of his antics he seems to have been determined to personally prove the saying true.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. He was a little wild, yeah.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:31 AM
Dec 2014

There was a lot of that going around at the time. Craziness, deliberate craziness.
He wasn't otherwise that interesting of a guy, died a few years back if I remember right.
He comes to mind though, because these times are starting to look a lot more like those times.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. Yeah. I'm the kind that disapproves of killing in the name of political power.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:47 AM
Dec 2014

People should govern themselves, not shoot and blow-up other people to impose their personal agenda on those people's lives.

The people shouting, "Death to the king!" the loudest tend to be the ones who only want the throne for themselves. I'm not into killing kings, I'm into smashing thrones. If a man wants to call himself king let him sit with us at the same table on the same uncomfortable folding metal chairs eating the same food; then we'll see how kingly he appears.

But no thrones.

brush

(53,764 posts)
10. The quote is of H. Rap Brown at a rally . . .
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:18 AM
Dec 2014

in the '60s, and it's actually: "Violence is as American as apple pie".

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. I've seen "apple" debunked in favor of "cherry".
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:22 AM
Dec 2014

I consider that in dispute, but have taken to using "cherry". Nevertheless, the meaning is clear and I doubt Mr. Brown would think the difference significant.

But, yep, that's him.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. Slaver exploiting still exists
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:28 AM
Dec 2014

though not in American but by American private defense contractors in the form of exploiting migrant workers. There is a pay though not very much but the conditions are very poor and the labor is forced by several ways, starting with taking their passports as soon as they arrive.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. Yep: Children harvest crops and sacrifice dreams in Mexico's fields
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:36 AM
Dec 2014

Alejandrina Castillo swept back her long black hair and reached elbow-deep into the chile pepper plants. She palmed and plucked the fat serranos, dropping handful after tiny handful into a bucket.

The container filled rapidly. Alejandrina stopped well before the pepper pile reached the brim.

She was 12, and it was hard for her to lift a full 15-pound load.

One row over was her brother Fidel, 13, who couldn't keep up with her. He was daydreaming as usual. Their 10-year-old cousin, Jesus, was trying harder but falling behind too.

http://graphics.latimes.com/product-of-mexico-children/

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