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underpants

(182,271 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:48 AM Dec 2014

Mumps- yes, the mumps. NHL (hockey) has a league wide Mumps outbreak

Last edited Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:03 PM - Edit history (1)

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/penguins-crosby-becomes-latest-nhl-player-to-have-the-mumps/article22077221/?service=mobile

Mr. Crosby became the 13th NHL player officially diagnosed with the mumps this season, although there is a possibility that others, including players from the St. Louis Blues who were battling bacterial infections back in October, may have also come down with the disease. The outbreak continued later Sunday when New York Ranger centre Derick Brassard was diagnosed.

And while the vaccine against mumps – when administered in a two-dose regimen – is effective 80 to 90 per cent of the time, it is not entirely foolproof. Instead, the remaining 10 to 20 per cent of the population remain susceptible to the disease, even after immunization. The net effect, according to the CDC, is that occasional mumps outbreaks still occur, especially in population settings where people have a high number of close contacts with others, such as school and college settings.

Mr. Crosby had received all of his vaccinations as a child and, as recently as a year ago, had a further booster shot in advance of playing for Canada at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

How could such a thing happen?

“That’s why it came as a bit of a surprise to us – because every indication was he was well-protected from the disease,” Dr. Vyas said. “We had made sure the whole team was checked. We immunized all the players and staff … approximately two weeks ago, just because of the outbreak of mumps in the NHL. We’re trying to stay ahead of it.”
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Mumps- yes, the mumps. NHL (hockey) has a league wide Mumps outbreak (Original Post) underpants Dec 2014 OP
I hear the mumps are dangerous to your, uh, hockey stick. n/t leftofcool Dec 2014 #1
During college, I attended a geology field camp in Wyoming. Are_grits_groceries Dec 2014 #2
Drug resistance? 2naSalit Dec 2014 #3
I was wondering that too underpants Dec 2014 #4
I doubt that there is any 2naSalit Dec 2014 #7
Most vaccines aren't 100% effective. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #14
Mumps is caused by a virus - antibiotics work against bacteria, not viruses Baclava Dec 2014 #5
Please note 2naSalit Dec 2014 #6
Your "concept" is false, equating vaccines to antibiotics - does not work Baclava Dec 2014 #8
Hmmm... 2naSalit Dec 2014 #9
Again - viruses don't become "resistant" to vaccines like bacteria do to antibiotics Baclava Dec 2014 #10
Another swing and another miss. n/t 2naSalit Dec 2014 #11
The league is considering an expansion team in Vegas KamaAina Dec 2014 #12
My son had mumps when he was about 4 or 5 years old. RebelOne Dec 2014 #13

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
2. During college, I attended a geology field camp in Wyoming.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:58 AM
Dec 2014

Several of the professors brought their kids. Two of them got the mumps. The guys went nuts because they can cause infertility. It is a rare side effect but it happens.

2naSalit

(86,031 posts)
3. Drug resistance?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Dec 2014

Lately I've been wondering when some of these, other than tuberculosis, which are no longer receptive to the drugs designed to control them would start popping up.

Antibiotics are becoming useless in ever increasing cases, I/m not surprised that Mumps might be the next disease to become a problem, even for those who have been vaccinated.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
4. I was wondering that too
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:20 AM
Dec 2014

I heard this on sports talk radio this morning and the hosts' reaction was similar to mine - the mumps? I've never heard of anyone getting the mumps.

The article linked doesn't address your point but it does say that the vaccine is only 80-90% effective. I had no idea that it wasn't 100%.

2naSalit

(86,031 posts)
7. I doubt that there is any
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:40 AM
Dec 2014

vaccine that can be deemed 100% effective. I was surprised there was one with an 80-90% rating. IIRC, many of the flu vaccines aren't set up to deal with all flu viruses and need to be restructured (?) every year and is more of a detriment than a health aid for some.

That being said, my whole family had the mumps when I was in grade school. We had many children in the family and some of us had everything twice... mumps, measles, chickenpox....

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
14. Most vaccines aren't 100% effective.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:18 PM
Dec 2014

That's why herd immunity is an important part of a disease reduction strategy.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
5. Mumps is caused by a virus - antibiotics work against bacteria, not viruses
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:24 AM
Dec 2014

There is no "cure" for mumps

2naSalit

(86,031 posts)
6. Please note
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:34 AM
Dec 2014

that I made no connection with viruses and antibiotics other than the concept that vaccines against viruses may be going the way of antibiotics presently.

And I did not equate Mumps with infectious disease or having been bacterial as we often define such maladies.

In trying to separate the two thoughts expressed, I made two separate paragraphs.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. Your "concept" is false, equating vaccines to antibiotics - does not work
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:03 PM
Dec 2014
"vaccines against viruses may be going the way of antibiotics"

Completely unrelated, completely false to think that.

While we're on the subject of viral illnesses - there is no "cure" for the common cold virus either - no matter what they might try to sell you on tee-vee


You can’t beat the common cold, and that’s a fact

For those of us dedicated to supporting science-based medicine and fighting the ever-widening reach of sCAM, pseudoscience, and health fraud, finding a new woo-filled claim or a dangerous, evidence-lacking trend to write about is relatively easy.

Many of us may not realize, however, that some of the most commonly used and recommended treatments, one of which at least is probably sitting in your medicine cabinet as you read this, is equally devoid of evidence to support its use.

Every drug store has row upon row of medicines designed to treat or prevent an acute upper respiratory tract infection, otherwise known as the common cold. Despite this, very few are able to live up to their promise.

In most cases, particularly where children are concerned, the side effects of these medicines can be worse than the symptoms they are intended to treat.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/you-cant-beat-the-common-cold-and-thats-a-fact/



2naSalit

(86,031 posts)
9. Hmmm...
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:16 PM
Dec 2014

You continue to use the word "cure" which I never included in my posts.

My point was that perhaps vaccines are becoming useless to address (I think the word I used originally was control) in that once they are developed an marketed, they well may be behind the "curve" in the morphological history of the virus identified for control therapy.

I never stated that vaccines or antibiotics are cures nor did I state that viruses and illnesses fomented by bacterial elements that result in non-viral diseases were the same.

Have another cup of coffee.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Again - viruses don't become "resistant" to vaccines like bacteria do to antibiotics
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:03 PM
Dec 2014

the science just doesn't work that way

more Frappuccino please

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
13. My son had mumps when he was about 4 or 5 years old.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:52 PM
Dec 2014

The mumps virus attacked the nerve endings in one of his ears and because of that he is permanently deaf in that ear.

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