She doesn't want to run.

right now she is feeling her mojo in the Senate, and knows she can accomplish much there

explained by the linguists on DU. Unless she says she will not run it is possible that she will run. All she said was she is not running...
which is true.

Twice

And get off the lawn!

I can't beleve people are getting so bent out of shape simply because people passionately hope she does run.

Of course, they wouldn't admit that in a million years.

But we all know what happened to her campaign eight years ago.
Mrs. Clinton was an establishment face then and she is even more of an establishment icon now.

Fear of an upstart, progressive opponent surely causes them nightmares of a repeat of 2008.

Whether Elizabeth Warren runs or not is somewhat immaterial to me: I won't support Hillary Clinton. Period.

If Warren doesn't run, then Bernie Sanders is the clear alternative for the nomination for populist progressives.

If Clinton does railroad her way to the nomination with the help of Wall Street and Alice Walton, well, we can look forward to the third Bush presidency in all likelihood. Clinton can only win if the Repuglicans nominate Ted Cruz or Santorum or another of the nuts; since they really want to win, they will nominate Bush or Kasich or some other milquetoasty 'conservative' and they will triumph in November 2016.

First off, Hillary supporters do not hate Warren and almost all of us would be very happy to see Warren in the White House should Hillary not win. And despite the efforts by some of Warren's DU supporters to manufacture it, there is no animosity or bad blood between the two. Warren thinks Hillary is terrific, and hopes she runs.

Second, there is no "railroading" to be done. People will vote for the person they want to vote for. If Warren runs and loses to Hillary then it will be because the Democratic party voters wanted Hillary. (But Warren isn't running, so that point is moot.)

In every poll, Clinton beats EVERY potential Republican candidate. By a lot. So the claim that "Clinton can only win if the Repuglicans nominate Ted Cruz or Santorum or another of the nuts" is just patently untrue. Hillary Clinton is our strongest candidate and the Republicans have no one nearly as strong. She is one of the most vetted candidates, if not the most vetted candidate, ever.

Now there's some cognitive dissonance. Hillary is owned by Wall Street, and Warren is Wall Street's greatest threat.

I guess it shows that Hillary's supporters either don't understand Warren't positions on economic inequality, or are ignorant about Hillary's being in debt to Wall Street.

great Democratic women and really want a fight -- when there isn't one.

EW thinks Hillary is terrific and hopes she runs.

Cognitive dissonance? Yes there will be a lot of that around here once Hillary formally announces and EW stumps for her. Cognitive dissonance, indeed.

as watching Penguins kick each others ass

for the people who have that poster on ignore.

She knows the words.

last week.

LOLZ

Elizabeth has repeatedly said that she is not running for president. But some people here think that she is so dishonest that she is equivocating.

Consider this. Would you support a US Senator for president who would equivocate like that?

Myself, I would prefer to take Elizabeth Warren at her word. That is my Elizabeth Warren. You can have the dishonest, equivocating Elizabeth Warren. I would want nothing to do with such.

And what does this speak for the Elizabeth Warren for President supporters here, when she has repeatedly expressed her desire to remain in the US Senate?

I have a word. Delusional

There are many of us who see Warren as an awesome asset to the US Senate where she can do a whole lot of good.

Remember Ted Kennedy!

If she doesn't run, you get to say "I told you delusional lefties!".

If she does run, she's a liar and cannot be trusted!



For the record, that "I am not running" line is a perennial, classic political line that has been used by countless politicians considering a run. It can be a denial, but it can be a non-denial denial, too-- and speculation on the point is wholly reasonable.

And your parsing her language is classic equivocation.

Plus, there are many here who see her as an incredible asset in the US Senate, one whom any Democratic President would see as an ally, and any Republican president would see as a formidable opponent.

Hell! According to some here, Liz is a formidable opponent to President Obama.

I desperately wish her to remain in the US Senate where she can do a whole lot of good.

Plus there's the thing that she has repeatedly said that she is not interested.

But go ahead and parse her words to satisfy your dreams.

in 2008.

Same meticulous over-parsing of words. Gore always said "I am not running" -- present tense. No matter how many times he said it, people here would not give up.

It was a very expensive engagement. I had the lobster.

I love this response. I remember that "Hillary at a Salon" post. Geez.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025897209

If Hillary is seen as the anointed queen, it will be hard raising money. An unopposed candidate is a fund-raiser's nightmare. With some credible "opposition," the money will pour in.