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Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:17 PM Dec 2014

Why are torturers being given “balance” in the press?

After the publication of the torture report, the torturers and their enablers have been all over the airwaves defending themselves and the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques.” These “techniques” included horrific acts of rape, threatening family members with rape and death, suspension from ceilings and walls for days on end, forcing prisoners to soil themselves in diapers, and various forms of psychological torture including sleep and sensory deprivation. In many cases the people being tortured had done nothing wrong and had no information of value.

There is simply no defense for any of this. None. “It gave us actionable intelligence” isn’t a defense. It happens to be untrue. We know that torture doesn’t produce valuable information, and it didn’t produce valuable information in any of these cases, either. But it doesn’t matter if it worked or not. Cutting the hands off of thieves works wonders to reduce theft, but we don’t do that. A moral people does not do these things. “We’re not as bad they are” isn’t a defense, either. That’s not the standard by which a moral people judges itself—and besides, most of the rest of the industrialized world does hold itself to a higher standard, despite also being victimized by Islamist terror attacks.

This stuff is obvious. And yet the TV shows and newspaper stories are full of balance given to the pro-torture side. Why? Despite objections to the contrary, journalists do not always give balance to both sides of an argument if the other side is deemed irrelevant or depraved. Whenever the deficit bugbear rolls to the forefront, almost no balance is given to the Keynesian point of view despite their predictions being consistently correct: the idea that one needn’t actually cut the deficit during a recession is treated as so outre as to require no journalistic attention.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2014_12/why_are_torturers_being_provid053308.php

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Why are torturers being given “balance” in the press? (Original Post) Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 OP
If one person says 2 + 2 = 4 CJCRANE Dec 2014 #1
Better to have a panel discussion Bragi Dec 2014 #3
Yes, that about sums it up. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #8
It seems like every time they open their mouth in attempt to defend their actions, it just makes hughee99 Dec 2014 #2
Simple. hifiguy Dec 2014 #4
How else will Wolf Blitzer be able to say Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #5
Because the main stream press SamKnause Dec 2014 #6
Because the ones that own the torturers also own the press. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #7
I wish we chould use the allleged tortourers, when discussing a case before the court. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #9

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. If one person says 2 + 2 = 4
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:22 PM
Dec 2014

then it's only fair that we get to hear someone defend the position that 2 + 2 = 5.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
3. Better to have a panel discussion
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:46 PM
Dec 2014

- One person would say 2+2=5
- Another would say 2+2=3
- A third panelist would say 2+2 maybe = 4, but it's a matter of opinion
- The Moderator would thank everyone for coming and make a joke

The viewer would be considered an informed voter.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. Yes, that about sums it up.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:32 PM
Dec 2014

I hope one of Jon Stewart's researchers is reading this thread as that would make a nice comedy scene.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
2. It seems like every time they open their mouth in attempt to defend their actions, it just makes
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:36 PM
Dec 2014

their argument look weaker. Like the president says, "please proceed".

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. Simple.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:49 PM
Dec 2014

The M$M are catapulting the message their owners - the tenth-percenters and New Fascists - want catapulted and they do it 24/7/365. That is the ONLY thing they do. It is the sole reason for their existence.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
6. Because the main stream press
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:21 PM
Dec 2014

and main stream media are bought and paid for.

I stopped listening to them years ago.

Independent news sources are not making excuses for these war mongers and torturers.

They have been calling them out and condemning them for years.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
9. I wish we chould use the allleged tortourers, when discussing a case before the court.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:39 PM
Dec 2014

Unfortunately, that is not likely to happen.

I would not be surprised if the next Senate and House voted to give all those who participated in "Enhanced Interrogation" programs a shiny medal of patriotism.

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