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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:54 PM Dec 2014

Cleveland Cops Demand Apology For Browns Awful Play

Whoops, I misread that.

Cleveland Cops Demand Apology For Browns Player's Tamir Rice Protest Shirt

A Cleveland police union has demanded that the Cleveland Browns football team apologize for a player who wore a T-shirt before Sunday's game protesting the police shootings of two black people.

Browns wide receiver Andrew Hawkins wore a shirt reading "Justice for Tamir Rice And John Crawford III" during pre-game warmups. Rice, who was just 12 years old, died last month after a Cleveland police officer shot him when he mistook the boy's toy gun for a real weapon. Crawford, 22, was shot dead by police in August at an area Wal-Mart while he was holding an air rifle.

Cleveland Police Patrolman Union President Jeff Follmer sent local TV station WEWS a statement after Sunday's game that called for an apology from the NFL team.

"It's pretty pathetic when athletes think they know the law," the statement read, as quoted by WEWS. "They should stick to what they know best on the field. The Cleveland Police protect and serve the Browns stadium and the Browns organization owes us an apology."

The Browns later issued a statement saying that the organization respects both the work of the Cleveland police department and their own players' right to protest.

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Cleveland Cops Demand Apology For Browns Awful Play (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 OP
FUCK.JEFF.FOLLMER. nt pkdu Dec 2014 #1
Police need to apologize for killing two upaloopa Dec 2014 #2
Who the hell do those killer cops think they are? meow2u3 Dec 2014 #3
I say fuck police "unions" 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #4
I agree !!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Dec 2014 #5
So, you're not a teacher? joeglow3 Dec 2014 #15
No. SamKnause Dec 2014 #17
Because I have seen plenty of teacher's unions protect criminals and enablers of criminals joeglow3 Dec 2014 #18
Then they are wrong too. HappyMe Dec 2014 #20
Are you a teacher ? SamKnause Dec 2014 #21
No. They tend to stick to pedophilia. joeglow3 Dec 2014 #22
I understand and of course that is wrong SamKnause Dec 2014 #24
Totally agreed. Police unions are "unions" like Union Scribe Dec 2014 #29
good one 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #30
What "law" do the athletes not know? immoderate Dec 2014 #6
I caught some of that game yesterday, it sounds like they know the law better than football. n/t hughee99 Dec 2014 #7
I thankfully benched Josh Gordon Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #8
lol! so now wearing a t-shirt that says "justice" is practicing law? unblock Dec 2014 #9
I don't get your thread title. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #10
they lost 30-0 belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #11
I wish they'd STFU with that "protect and serve" crap tularetom Dec 2014 #12
Fuck. The. Police. 99Forever Dec 2014 #13
There needs to be a vote of no confidence at the Union in Jeff Follmer 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #14
I only want an apology for letting Johnny Manziel play yesterday. dilby Dec 2014 #16
Aww did they get their little feeling hurt? Rex Dec 2014 #19
The Cleveland police need to keep quiet maryellen99 Dec 2014 #23
Fuck the police MohRokTah Dec 2014 #25
There's no such thing as an accurate absolute statement. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #27
I once believed in the myth of "good cops" but no more. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #28
These actions of police unions serve to demonstrate how bad the problem is. kwassa Dec 2014 #26
Now who could possibly object to rock Dec 2014 #31

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Police need to apologize for killing two
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:59 PM
Dec 2014

innocent people.
Here is where we are headed I think.
We are living in an oligarchy. The 1% is turning us all into peons working for subsistence wages and the police are their enforcers.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
3. Who the hell do those killer cops think they are?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:01 PM
Dec 2014

What makes them think they're entitled to respect after the way they treat citizens whose only crime was being born with a skin color other than their own?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. I say fuck police "unions"
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:02 PM
Dec 2014

It's a travesty that police are allowed to unionize with impunity, in order to
then use that "union" as a platform to advocate for cops shooting black kids.

It's a very ugly spectacle in my book. Unions by their very nature are supposed
to stand for something positive, like economic justice or family wage jobs for
laborers. A far cry from standing for shooting black kids.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
5. I agree !!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:05 PM
Dec 2014

I am as pro union as you can get.

I have been a member of 2.

My union never protected criminals, abusers, or murderers.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
20. Then they are wrong too.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:47 PM
Dec 2014

This insistence of the police union that apologies and respect are due is bullshit.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
21. Are you a teacher ?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:49 PM
Dec 2014

Do teacher's union have access to the justice system and the District Attorney like police and police union reps. do ?

Do teacher's union protect teachers that murder their students ?

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
22. No. They tend to stick to pedophilia.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:51 PM
Dec 2014

We also had a student sexually assault another at school here, a teacher help to try and cover it up and she is still working.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
24. I understand and of course that is wrong
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:59 PM
Dec 2014

and they should be charged and prosecuted.

I don't think you can compare police unions to teachers unions because of the things I stated in my previous post.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
6. What "law" do the athletes not know?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:10 PM
Dec 2014

Is there some law that gives police a license to kill innocent people, that athletes are unaware of?

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unblock

(52,126 posts)
9. lol! so now wearing a t-shirt that says "justice" is practicing law?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:15 PM
Dec 2014

let's pretend that we were to grant that the killing of a boy when the only danger was from the cop's imagination and the cop's weapon was perfectly legal and justified.

even then, it's ridiculous to whine about public people such as athletes voicing an opinion over the matter.



what's pathetic is that the best argument the police can think of in defense of the cop amounts to stfu.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
12. I wish they'd STFU with that "protect and serve" crap
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

Our local sheriff stood up in a budget hearing and said he was under no obligation to protect any citizen, and that his only job was to enforce laws. Several court decisions in other counties have reinforced this statement. So they don't have to protect anybody.

And if you talk to one of the arrogant bastards you'll soon discover that they don't believe they "serve" anybody either. They actually believe it's their job to keep the rabble from making life uncomfortable for the well to do.

Unfortunately, you can't force people to respect you, that respect has to be earned. What they need to do is get their asses out of those fortresses they drive around in and get out and mingle with the people they are supposed to be working for. Get to know the citizens and let the citizens get to know them. Learn something about the community.

They might be a bit more humble if they knew what the 1% actually thinks about them. If they could hire the Russian mafia to protect them at half of what the cops are paid they'd do it in a heartbeat.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
16. I only want an apology for letting Johnny Manziel play yesterday.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:57 PM
Dec 2014

I predicted he would be sacked 3 times and throw 2 interceptions and I was right. The guy sucks and I am pissed that the Browns organization took a crap on Hoyer who has been carrying this team's offense all season. He is just an average quarterback but if he was on a team like the Eagles he would fricking look like Joe Montana. So we took a struggling offense with no running game, took out Hoyer who is just an average quarterback and put in some snot nosed rich kid who took a beating. There goes the playoffs, ugh I am so mad right now.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Aww did they get their little feeling hurt?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:44 PM
Dec 2014

Touch shit. Collective guilt and a pinch of projection and it comes from the PD. Do cops know the law? Some sure don't.

maryellen99

(3,785 posts)
23. The Cleveland police need to keep quiet
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:51 PM
Dec 2014

Especially if they hired that cop knowing he was fired from another dept for being unfit to serve.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
27. There's no such thing as an accurate absolute statement.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:30 PM
Dec 2014

I've met good cops. Yes, they're getting harder to find. Yes, they seem to be vastly outnumbered by assholes. But I don't accept that they're all evil, sorry.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
28. I once believed in the myth of "good cops" but no more.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:41 PM
Dec 2014

So-called "good cops" pretend to be good, but they still cover up for their colleagues who commit murder.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
26. These actions of police unions serve to demonstrate how bad the problem is.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

Who needs a bigger illustration than this? The police clearly have no sense of the problem they themselves have created.

rock

(13,218 posts)
31. Now who could possibly object to
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

"Justice for Tamir Rice And John Crawford III" or for that matter Justice for [anyone? Except, of course, those committing injustices against those so named? It's a devious trap designed to elicit responses from exactly those who are guilty (or supporters of the guilty).

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