Doctors eventually declared the use of it unethical.

On that note, one of the things that disturbs me most about the torture program is that doctors actually participated.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)

16. Disturbing, but not surprising.

Reply to NaturalHigh (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:55 AM

Dec 2014

There have always been sociopathic doctors. We hope they are few and far between.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)

3. Treating prisoners with some level of respect and reality actually is what did work

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:15 PM

Dec 2014

until the torturing criminals took over

Little Star

(17,055 posts)

4. because sodium pentothal produces things like this....

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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:17 PM

Dec 2014

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)

7. First, Brittany Spears...now Beyonce

Reply to Little Star (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:20 PM

Dec 2014

Kids these days!

olddots

(10,237 posts)

5. One drug they used was proved to not work

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:17 PM

Dec 2014

But you can bet that the baby that became big pharma made a fortune selling it to rhe MIC.
any form of torture doesn't work on humans with a "mission" .

JEB

(4,748 posts)

8. Herr Cheney enjoys his torture.

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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:21 PM

Dec 2014

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)

9. You're probably thinking about sodium pentothal ...

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:23 PM

Dec 2014

It was not a "truth serum", so to speak; but rather, worked to lower inhibitions.

Here's a good piece on the efficacy of truth serums.

http://io9.com/5902559/what-truths-does-truth-serum-actually-reveal

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)

10. Because it's extremely ineffective

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:23 PM

Dec 2014

It makes the subject very open to suggestion, so they often end up saying what the interrogator wants them to.

Anything you see using a term like "lie detector" or "truth" to describe its function is going to be unreliable, if not outright pseudoscience.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)

13. Bush would have loved it then

Reply to NuclearDem (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:46 PM

Dec 2014

"There are WMD's everywhere in Iraq! Saddam is going to nuke America! Osama Bin Laden is Saddam's best friend!"

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)

11. I think we should start a campaign in favour of a surprise new truth drug:

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:36 PM

Dec 2014

Marijuana...

Throd

(7,208 posts)

12. I call it "vodka"

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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:41 PM

Dec 2014

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)

14. Painless torture is no fun.

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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:10 PM

Dec 2014

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)

15. It's very hard to use, for one thing

Reply to Stargazer99 (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:23 AM

Dec 2014

In addition to the part about it not really causing the victim to speak truth but actually to say whatever the interrogator wants you to, the dose that makes it "truth serum" is just slightly less than the dose that puts you under...and that very fine line is different in everyone.

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