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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:57 PM Dec 2014

Texas plumber has ‘no idea’ how ISIS militants ended up with his old truck

A Texas plumber says he has no idea how his old company truck ended up in a jihadi photo from the front lines of the war in Syria produced by the militant group ISIS.

The New York Daily News reported that Mark Oberholtzer of Texas City traded the company car in at a dealership in 2013 and hadn’t thought of it since.

On Monday, however, the Ansar al-Deen Front, a Syrian militant group, posted a photo featuring the black Ford F-250 pickup with an anti-aircraft gun mounted on the truck bed and the logo of Oberholtzer’s Mark-1 Plumbing Company and contact information emblazoned on the doors.

Shortly thereafter, Oberholtzer told the Galveston Daily News, the hate mail and death threats started pouring in.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/texas-plumber-has-no-idea-how-isis-militants-ended-up-with-his-old-truck/

Lot's of free-floating anger out there, you can see it here too.

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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
2. Here is the actual artical "raw story" plagerized from
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:08 PM
Dec 2014

Texas plumber hit with threats after his old pickup truck appears in jihadist propaganda from Syria (VIDEO)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-plumber-old-truck-appears-jihadist-propaganda-article-1.2048089

Mark Oberholtzer, a Texas City tradesman, has 'no idea' how his old Ford F-250 with his company's 'Mark 1 Plumbing' decal ended up in the hands in the hands of Islamic extremist brigade Ansar al-Deen Front, who have mounted an anti-aircraft gun on the back.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
7. Yeah but.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:28 PM
Dec 2014

NY Daily News is not an acceptable source as they have run stories critical of President Obama. So you can link to a clearing house like raw story but not NY Daily News.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. I just don't care much about sources.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:33 PM
Dec 2014

I do support Obama, but that does not equate to avoiding criticism, far from it.

The main reason I don't like NY Daily News is the annoying walking menus and bullshit ads they are awash with.

Brother Buzz

(36,217 posts)
5. LOL, I'm hearing the charter member of 'Slow Talkers of America' and Dodge spokesman
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:16 PM
Dec 2014

It could go in a lot of directions

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
11. hopefully it has the known crappy 6.0L Powerjoke in it
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
Dec 2014

Guaranteed to leave them stranded in the middle of fucking nowhere

 

BubbaFett

(361 posts)
6. likely high mileage vehicle
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:24 PM
Dec 2014

slipped into wholesale market, probably scooped up by super cheap and shipped overseas.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
10. Yep. Back when I was in the business, they wanted the square body style Chevy Caprice.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
Dec 2014

V-8 with a good air conditioner.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
12. Let's not kid ourselves here, I think we all know how that truck got in ISIS's hands.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:44 PM
Dec 2014

Someone just got very sloppy in this case.

Its no secret that they're funding, supporting and training these ISIS/ISIL mercs to destabilize certain countries either but its funny how the same people who released the CIA torture report are turning a blind eye to the same agency that is buying up trucks and cars in this country and shipping them off to Iraq and Syria to support terrorists.





and...



Video: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

NARRATOR: But in recent weeks, they have been receiving more sophisticated weapons. It appears the Obama administration is now allowing select groups of rebels like them to receive U.S.-made anti-tank missiles, known as TOWs. Many of the fighters have filmed themselves firing the missiles. In addition to receiving weapons, the commander says he and his men were taken on a long journey to a secret training camp.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] They asked for a group of 80 or 90 fighters from our command, and we headed towards the Turkish border.

NARRATOR: Based on their accounts, we retraced their journey across the border into Turkey. After a 14-hour drive, they say they arrived in the Turkish capital of Ankara and were brought to a hotel. They were kept inside and questioned by Americans, who would only say they were from the military. But the rebels believed they were from the CIA.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We met them for six to seven hours a day. It was medical examinations, questions for each person individually, like, “When did you join the uprising?” And “What was your profession or military rank?”

They had tracked our work and asked us to verify information about attacks we carried out, such as who was present and how many men were martyred. Your responses have to match the entire group’s.

NARRATOR: A week later, the rebels say they were surprised by what happened next.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We only found out where we were going to be trained on the last day in Ankara, when the Americans said goodbye and that, “Tomorrow, we’ll see you in Qatar.”

NARRATOR: They were flown 1,500 miles away to Doha, the capital of Qatar, which is a key U.S. ally in the Persian Gulf.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We drove for about two, two-and-a-half hours to reach the training ground. It was close to the Saudi border. We didn’t know where we were because it was desert all around.

NARRATOR: Over the course of three weeks, they say they were trained by Americans at a base in the desert guarded by Qatari soldiers. Like many of the rebels who were sent to Qatar, 21-year-old Hussein had never had any previous military training.

HUSSEIN: [through interpreter] They trained us to ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off the road. They also trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.

NARRATOR: The rebels were outfitted with brand-new uniforms and boots.

MUHAMMAD ALI: [subtitles] Those trousers are from them, right?

HUSSEIN: [subtitles] Yeah. We got these boots in training.

MUHAMMAD ALI: The Americans were warning the fighters not to tell this story at all. And even at one point, they told them, “If in any case this story will be published, we will stop funding you or arming you.”

NARRATOR: The CIA and the State Department declined to comment on the fighters’ accounts of arming and training, though the Obama administration has said it plans to step up support to the rebels, and there have been other reports the CIA is running covert training out of Jordan.




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