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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTerri Schiavo’s Husband Speaks Out On Jeb Bush’s Presidential Bid
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/12/17/3604615/michael-schiavo-jeb-bush/In his announcement Tuesday that he would explore a 2016 presidential bid, former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) promised to focus on ideas and policies that will expand opportunity and prosperity for all Americans. But he made no mention of his most controversial act during his two terms in office: his attempts to take custody of Terri Schiavo and overrule her husband Michaels decision to remove her feeding tube, fifteen years after cardiac arrest had left her in a vegetative state.
ThinkProgress spoke with Michael Schiavo and the attorney who represented him in the matter, George Felos, about Bushs presidential candidacy. Both expressed concern that Bushs record was one of government interference and opposing individual liberty.
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Its one thing to have your own personal beliefs, Felos said, Its quite another to use your official powers and your official office to subvert the court and the lawful process.
He also recalled that after Schiavos death, Jeb Bush went after Michael Schiavo personally, asking the states attorney to investigate whether he had called 911 fast enough. It was very odd, almost like a personal vendetta the governor had towards Michael Schaivo. The states attorney found no evidence against him and closed the case. The propriety of using your office to hunt and harass people, as the governor did to Mr. Schiavo after his wifes death, I think raises significant questions about his judgment and his character, Felos said.
Michael Schiavo, nearly a decade later, said he believes Jeb Bushs intervention was a purely political move and an act of buffoonery. If you want a government thats gonna be intrusive and interfere in your personal life, vote for Bush. If you want to live like that, want people to interfere in your personal lives, then vote for him, he said.
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Jebby and Christ Christy have that GOPer bully thing going on.
samsingh
(17,571 posts)FSogol
(45,357 posts)True for the entire Bush family.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)lpbk2713
(42,696 posts)Its one thing to have your own personal beliefs, Felos said, Its quite another to use
your official powers and your official office to subvert the court and the lawful process.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)should have been impeached and removed for what they did.
UTUSN
(70,496 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:27 PM - Edit history (2)
UTUSN
(70,496 posts)fellow Congressman who is now gone went out there and said our values to the cameras those days.
spanone
(135,633 posts)rocktivity
(44,555 posts)There was a brilliant editorial on Jeb vs. Michael:
Gov. Jeb Bush...indulged his worst impulses by asking prosecutors to review the circumstances surrounding Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago. It is a callous, arrogant, defiant act by a stubborn governor who can't accept facts at odds with his own views.
And don't forget that Jeb tried to have the state police remove Terri Schiavo from her hospice despite a court order forbidding it. Fortunately, the state cops realized they'd be blamed and tipped off the local cops, who formed a perimeter around the hospice which the state cops courteously refused to cross.
Proceed, ex-governor -- and "ex"-governor for VERY good reason!
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mcar
(42,210 posts)People should not forget what Jeb! did to that man.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)i hope michael schiavo goes after jeb like a dog on abone.
what jeb and other did to that family was horrible.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Let those libertarian-conservative types learn allllllllllll about it. There is so much dirt on Jeb, I hope they can't keep it down. He will be the Republican nominee without a doubt if they don't go after him now.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)They'd sooner spit than say his name, and this issue is one of the reasons why.
Honestly, I think this is a gingrich-like book tour move. Does he have a book out? I bet he does.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They ended up bringing the good conservatives into the fold to vote for Mitt who they hated (for the most part). I thought they were going to wait for Jeb just a little longer, but perhaps they think they can polish him up because Clinton in vulnerable. He is the perfect republican candidate: soulless, entitled, and will lie with his last breath.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)Blue Idaho
(4,988 posts)We have had quite enough Bush Bastards in the Whitehouse.
Rob H.
(5,340 posts)From wikipedia:
Emphasis added.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)those 47 Democrats (Bart Stupak comes to mine) should have been impeached and convicted.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Stainless
(717 posts)LOL - now that's funny.
world wide wally
(21,719 posts)It's either a joke or my worst nightmare has come true
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This country is even dumber than I thought?
Amazing!
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)of this STRANGE country. Ms Bigmack
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)just did it for political expediency. She wasn't from money, why would he care about her?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Right on!
The Bushes have mastered the art of buffoonery.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)hopefully this will come up in the primaries, maybe Rand Paul will bring it up at one of the debates. Of course Huckabee and Santorum will line up with Big Government making these personal decisions, what about the others?
riversedge
(69,721 posts)to me.
I have only a vague recall of that issue. Strange but I recall Hannity from Fox sitting outside the nursing home that the woman was in night after night. Odd memory.
I do remember being concerned about it the issue. Last wills are important-and she had none but there was no reason not to believe her husband.
MH1
(17,537 posts)He probably didn't give a shit one way or the other but thought it would make him look good with the extreme nutjob faction that one has to woo these days to get a republican nomination.
longship
(40,416 posts)R&
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Morbid buffoonery
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)This is why we now have "death panels" ahem they aren't. Jeb was trying to rule for the parents. Michael simply wanted to get a knew wife. and she clearly wasn't brain dead. bout the only think Jeb did right.
KinMd
(966 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I'd get juried on this one didn't think I'd be on being anti torture. but whatever. Guess people don't wanna hear or read about torture methods. Thought it was common knowledge. This one though is more opinion. She wasn't brain dead that was my main problem. Second problem was I'm not fan of the husband. The parents had made the better case. Persistent vegetative state is basically brain dead. I'm fairly sure she didn't want to be starved to death which is of course what she died of. Starvation. Thats my opinion though not fact.
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)
which means no brain activity. Bush and the other RWNJs claimed to discern actual cognizance -- eye contact, reaction to various stimuli, etc. -- NONE of which could possibly be true. Upon autopsy, the legitimate doctors' evaluations bore out the truth. Her brain was basically jello. So she clearly had no meaningful future. After fifteen years of that, Michael certainly had a right to hope for more in his life. Obviously, there was nothing simple about it. It's understandable, in a way, that Terry's heartbroken, desperate parents saw what they wanted to see. But Jeb and his cohorts were out-and-out assholes. This was the absolute worst thing he did while governor, and that's saying a lot.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)the law, the next of kin is the HUSBAND, NOT the parents. ole jebby had no right to "rule for the parents", he had no business interfering at all.
your post is an embarrassing display of reichwing bs.
Reter
(2,188 posts)So fuck him. Bush should have stopped it, and if he couldn't Shrub should have stepped in.
evirus
(852 posts)You can't take away some ones rights as a spouse simply because of rumors.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)Dimson freaking called back Congress!!! After a number (more than a dozen) court actions gave them decisions they didn't like. And who do you think was behind those despicable, unfounded rumors? There was absolutely no evidence of wrong-doing except in the minds of right-wing assholes determined to pander to the fanatical religious right. Check your facts and go back to FR or wherever you call home.
hatrack
(59,439 posts)If that's your standard of "proof", then good luck with the rest of your life.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)You're as bad as Jeb. He directed prosecutors to investigate whether there was anything he could be charged with, 15 years after the fact.
Now, you're no governor, and have no power, but here's how you are just as bad; almost a decade on you're out there, pimping the lies and smears that he was cleared of, all over again.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
rocktivity
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...The blue areas are remaining brain tissue but most of the scan shows black areas which are essentially fluid (cerebrospinal fluid). The normal body reaction to irreversibly damaged tissue is to replace it with fluid and this is clearly what has happened after Mrs. Schiavo suffered severe anoxic damage to her cerebral cortex. Most of what remains of her brain is essentially a fluid filled sac surrounded by a thin shell of brain tissue rather then the solid structure we normally associate with a brain...
At the time, Terri Schiavo was neither persisting, vegetating nor pining for her native Florida Everglades; she had passed on. She was no more; she had ceased to be. She had expired and gone to meet her maker: Terri was late. She was a stiff, bereft of life and resting in peace. If she hadn't been impaled by feeding tubes, she'd be pushing up the daisies. Her metabolic processes were history; she was off the twig. She had kicked the bucket, shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible -- " target="_blank">SHE WAS AN EX-TERRI!
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)PVS is not 'brain death', though a significant percentage of her brain had in fact died, and long since been replaced by cerebro-spinal fluid.
The 'person' of Terri Schaivo was long dead, and MOTHERFUCKING RIGHT WING GOOSESTEPPING EVANGLICAL ASSHOLES like Jeb Bush forced her body to remain on life support in a form of living death for SEVEN YEARS on no medical knowledge whatsoever, and against the best last known wishes of Terri herself.
Sad to see people here on DU falling for Jeb Bush's complete and utter bullshit and power-mad tyranny. Public office is the last place a creature like him belongs.
KinMd
(966 posts)Chemisse
(30,793 posts)Much like the Elian Gonzales episode.
They were ludicrous, and it's good to remember them and those who stirred the pot.
I had forgotten J. Bush'es part in this.
niyad
(112,434 posts)niyad
(112,434 posts)searching, and cannot find it.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)That whole episode was Republican hypocrisy at its finest.
Hopefully, it will come back to haunt them.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)iirc, that was from a fundie demonstration outside Terri Schiavo's hospice.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)of the protester outside the hospice who was kneeling, praying, and looking like she was about to drop something from an orifice....
rocktivity
(44,555 posts)And it helped mortify enough religious moderates to get us Congress in 2006
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lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)sarge43
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My father and brother died in a PVS. It was an insane, terrible experience for my family, damn near killed my mother. To have asshole bullies in the mix would have sent me over the edge.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Skittles
(152,964 posts)what a terrible experience for him that was
MADem
(135,425 posts)Republicans ARE bullies. Ever last single one of them.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Hypocrites.
Faux pas
(14,582 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....than his brother had.
As an aside, off topic (and this will get me in trouble, I'm sure!), do people understand what "kick" means? It's used to move a post up after it has found it's way down the list over time. "Kick"-ing a post just minutes after it's first posted is basically pointless.